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    California Skies: Look it's a bird- NO IT'S A DRONE

    SD seeks controversial 'drone zone'

    http://audio.wrko.com/a/72454151/in-...-s-a-drone.htm

    http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/...hrop-aircraft/

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    Despite Americans' concerns about the domestic use of drones, California local agencies are reportedly moving forward with an application to declare a broad swath of Southern California a “drone zone” – an area to be used to test pilotless aircraft. The purpose: government stimulus.

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    OAKLAND, California — Will Alameda County become California’s first local government to deploy a drone?

    If the decision were up to dozens of angry residents and several civil rights groups, the answer would be a resounding “No.” They urged the Bay Area county’s leaders, in a public hearing sometimes filled with acrimony Thursday, to squash a plan by the Alameda County Sheriff’s Department to deploy up to two small, lightweight drones.

    “We oppose the use of public resources to buy machines to surveil its citizens,” Michael Seigel, a member of Alameda County Against Drones, said to rousing applause by many of the 150 people in attendance before the Alameda County Board of Supervisors’ Public Protection Committee.

    Moments later, Sheriff Gregory Ahern said: “We object to the term surveil. We have no intention of doing that.”

    Outbursts from the audience suggested they did not believe that the drones would be used for more than the stated goals of search-and-rescue, firefighting, bomb-detection and, among other things, crime-scene preservation.

    At one point during the hours-long hearing, an Alameda County sheriff’s official said the drones, which the department labeled ”small unmanned aircraft systems,” would only focus on nothing smaller than felony investigations.

    Later on, however, Sheriff Ahern said: “I don’t want to lock myself into just felonies.”

    Jeers erupted from the crowd. One man said minutes later that “this was an assault on my community.”

    County Supervisor Scott Haggerty, a member of the Public Protection Committee, told American Civil Liberties Union attorney Linda Lye that he didn’t believe the drone would be used to spy on people in their backyards, as she alleged.

    He added that, whether she believed him or not, “I don’t care.”

    Then Haggerty began suggesting that helicopters and drones could equally escape noise detection by potential suspects.

    “That is crap,” somebody uttered from the audience.

    Alameda County, just east of San Francisco, is closing in on becoming one of dozens of local law enforcement agencies nationwide to deploy the unmanned crafts. Some of the agencies include the Miami-Dade Police Department and the Texas Department of Public Safety.

    The hearing came a day after federal lawmakers introduced legislation regulating state and federal government use of unmanned drones (.pdf) in the United States. If adopted, the one-of-a-kind legislation would prohibit drones from being armed, and would demand that agencies register drones and adopt privacy polices. What’s more, the proposal would allow drones to be used only in criminal matters, in which warrants would be required.

    While Alameda County inches toward drone use, the Seattle Police Department last week grounded its two drones amid privacy concerns, and months after the Government Accountability Office warned Congress that its push for drones to become commonplace in U.S. airspace fails to take into account privacy, security and even GPS jamming and spoofing. The GAO, Congress’ research arm, was responding to the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, signed by President Barack Obama in February, which among other things requires the Federal Aviation Administration to accelerate drone flights in U.S. airspace.

    Alameda County is home to Oakland, the scene of violent Occupy protests in 2011.

    In December, Alameda County officials abruptly tabled a plan to purchase at least one lightweight drone weighing about 3 or 4 pounds, with seed money from the federal government. The county has received bids ranging from $50,000 to $107,500 on aircraft that could fly for about 30 minutes at less than 400 feet. Yet the county Board of Supervisors didn’t vote on the plan and instead called for a public hearing on the matter, which was Thursday.

    “Just say no to drones,” said Susan Harman, a member of Code Pink.

    The Public Protection Committee took no action on the sheriff’s request. The full Alameda County Board of Supervisors is expected to decide the issue at a public meeting that was not announced Thursday.

    Meantime, documents before the California Emergency Management Agency, which is distributing the federal drone funding, show that the county’s “objectives” for the drone is “intelligence and information sharing and dissemination, planning.” (.pdf)

    No model of drone has been chosen. But records show that the agency has received several bids.

    Among them, they include:

    Lockheed Martin, QR425 Quadrotor System, $50,000
    Aeryon Labs, Aeryon Scout Pro System, $107,500, and Aeryon Scout Civilian System, $67,500 (Infrared and video zoom costs extra.)
    ING Engineering, VTOL Scout System, $90,000
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    SD seeks controversial 'drone zone'

    http://audio.wrko.com/a/72454151/in-...-s-a-drone.htm

    http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/...hrop-aircraft/

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    Despite Americans' concerns about the domestic use of drones, California local agencies are reportedly moving forward with an application to declare a broad swath of Southern California a “drone zone” – an area to be used to test pilotless aircraft. The purpose: government stimulus.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ry-drone-zones

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    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...ne-deployment/

    OAKLAND, California — Will Alameda County become California’s first local government to deploy a drone?

    If the decision were up to dozens of angry residents and several civil rights groups, the answer would be a resounding “No.” They urged the Bay Area county’s leaders, in a public hearing sometimes filled with acrimony Thursday, to squash a plan by the Alameda County Sheriff’s Department to deploy up to two small, lightweight drones.

    “We oppose the use of public resources to buy machines to surveil its citizens,” Michael Seigel, a member of Alameda County Against Drones, said to rousing applause by many of the 150 people in attendance before the Alameda County Board of Supervisors’ Public Protection Committee.

    Moments later, Sheriff Gregory Ahern said: “We object to the term surveil. We have no intention of doing that.”

    Outbursts from the audience suggested they did not believe that the drones would be used for more than the stated goals of search-and-rescue, firefighting, bomb-detection and, among other things, crime-scene preservation.

    At one point during the hours-long hearing, an Alameda County sheriff’s official said the drones, which the department labeled ”small unmanned aircraft systems,” would only focus on nothing smaller than felony investigations.

    Later on, however, Sheriff Ahern said: “I don’t want to lock myself into just felonies.”

    Jeers erupted from the crowd. One man said minutes later that “this was an assault on my community.”

    County Supervisor Scott Haggerty, a member of the Public Protection Committee, told American Civil Liberties Union attorney Linda Lye that he didn’t believe the drone would be used to spy on people in their backyards, as she alleged.

    He added that, whether she believed him or not, “I don’t care.”

    Then Haggerty began suggesting that helicopters and drones could equally escape noise detection by potential suspects.

    “That is crap,” somebody uttered from the audience.

    Alameda County, just east of San Francisco, is closing in on becoming one of dozens of local law enforcement agencies nationwide to deploy the unmanned crafts. Some of the agencies include the Miami-Dade Police Department and the Texas Department of Public Safety.

    The hearing came a day after federal lawmakers introduced legislation regulating state and federal government use of unmanned drones (.pdf) in the United States. If adopted, the one-of-a-kind legislation would prohibit drones from being armed, and would demand that agencies register drones and adopt privacy polices. What’s more, the proposal would allow drones to be used only in criminal matters, in which warrants would be required.

    While Alameda County inches toward drone use, the Seattle Police Department last week grounded its two drones amid privacy concerns, and months after the Government Accountability Office warned Congress that its push for drones to become commonplace in U.S. airspace fails to take into account privacy, security and even GPS jamming and spoofing. The GAO, Congress’ research arm, was responding to the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, signed by President Barack Obama in February, which among other things requires the Federal Aviation Administration to accelerate drone flights in U.S. airspace.

    Alameda County is home to Oakland, the scene of violent Occupy protests in 2011.

    In December, Alameda County officials abruptly tabled a plan to purchase at least one lightweight drone weighing about 3 or 4 pounds, with seed money from the federal government. The county has received bids ranging from $50,000 to $107,500 on aircraft that could fly for about 30 minutes at less than 400 feet. Yet the county Board of Supervisors didn’t vote on the plan and instead called for a public hearing on the matter, which was Thursday.

    “Just say no to drones,” said Susan Harman, a member of Code Pink.

    The Public Protection Committee took no action on the sheriff’s request. The full Alameda County Board of Supervisors is expected to decide the issue at a public meeting that was not announced Thursday.

    Meantime, documents before the California Emergency Management Agency, which is distributing the federal drone funding, show that the county’s “objectives” for the drone is “intelligence and information sharing and dissemination, planning.” (.pdf)

    No model of drone has been chosen. But records show that the agency has received several bids.

    Among them, they include:

    Lockheed Martin, QR425 Quadrotor System, $50,000
    Aeryon Labs, Aeryon Scout Pro System, $107,500, and Aeryon Scout Civilian System, $67,500 (Infrared and video zoom costs extra.)
    ING Engineering, VTOL Scout System, $90,000
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    http://rt.com/usa/surveillance-drone-hearing-552/

    The US Federal Aviation Administration expects that anywhere from 10,000 to 30,000 drones will be traversing American airspace in just a few years’ time, but little rules if any have been formally adopted as of yet to impose restrictions on what exactly UAVs are able to do.
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    Bill regulating drones dies in Wash. Legislature

    SEATTLE — Despite having support from Democrats, Republicans, civil liberties advocates and those concerned over government intrusion, a measure regulating the use and purchases of drones by state agencies and local municipalities died in Olympia without getting a vote from any chamber.

    Lawmakers said there wasn't enough time: At the House, the grappling over gun background checks ate up the clock before a voting deadline. In the Senate, a chair said proposed changes to the bill weren't ready in time to clear his committee.

    But the bill also saw opposition from one of the most influential players in Olympia: The Boeing Co. The aerospace manufacturer, one of the largest employers in the state, argued the bill would hurt future jobs in the growing unmanned aerial vehicle industry.

    "In our view, WA state House Bill 1771 did not provide a sufficiently thorough and thoughtful framework. Further, we believe that as the technology matures, best practices and new understanding will emerge, and that it would be counterproductive to rush into regulating this burgeoning industry," Boeing said in a statement.

    A Boeing company, The Insitu Group, which has several operations along the Columbia River Gorge, employs about 800 employees making drones, spokeswoman Sue Bradley said.

    One of their models, dubbed the ScanEagle, is currently in use by the U.S. Navy. The aircraft is 4-feet long and has a 10-foot wingspan. It can remain in the air for 15 hours, according to Boeing's site.

    "The problem with the bill is that it would have essentially dampened our ability to manufacture products," said Larry Brown, who heads legislative matters at the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers District 751. "This would have dampened the likelihood of using Washington as a manufacturing center for these."

    The union didn't take an active position on the bill in Olympia, Brown said.

    The proliferation of domestic drone use has kindled opposition across a wide spectrum.

    Lawmakers in more than 30 states are looking at plans to restrict the use of drones over their skies amid concerns the vehicles could be exploited to spy on Americans. Concerns have increased since the Federal Aviation Administration began establishing safety standards for civilian drones, which are becoming increasingly affordable and small in size.

    The city of Seattle abandoned its drone program after community protests in February. The city's police department had purchased two drones through a federal grant without consulting the city council.

    "I'm willing to admit there are people who are criminals, but the majority of our citizens are law abiding people who value their privacy," said Democratic Sen. Maralyn Chase of Shoreline, who sponsored the Senate bill. "That's why you have to get a warrant to search somebody's house. We try to stay on the straight and narrow. That's why so many people are unhappy about spy planes."

    In Olympia, the companion drone bills were sponsored by two politically different lawmakers. One a Democrat from the Puget Sound region. The other a Republican from central Washington.

    "I think the bill frightened the industry folks who manufacture these," said Democratic Rep. Roger Goodman, chairman of the House Public Safety Committee which approved the bill on a 8-1 vote. "So they were very active in lobbying influential members of the democratic caucus."

    Gov. Jay Inslee's spokeswoman Jamie Smith said the governor's office took no official position on the measure. But Goodman said he was approached by the governor's office with some concerns over job creation.

    The bill would have mandated that law enforcement agencies obtain approval from their respective legislative government before buying a drone. The measure also would require law enforcement agencies to obtain criminal warrants before using the drones, with a few exceptions.

    The measure called for deletion within 30 days of data gathered if no criminal activity is recorded. It requires erasing data collected from people who are not the target of a drone deployment within 24 hours. The state National Guard had been exempted from the restrictions.

    The measure focused on state and local government drones and did not attempt to regulate private use. The Department of Natural Resources voiced concerns over the measure because it has been attempting to obtain FAA permission to fly drones during wildfire season this year.

    It also had no authority over federal use of drones. At least one Homeland Security 10,000-pound drone already occasionally patrols the skies along the border in Eastern Washington.

    "In terms of time, the Legislature needs to step up and show leadership and get out ahead of the technology instead of chasing behind it," said Shankar Narayan of the Washington chapter of the American Civil Liberties. "It's unfortunate now we'll have to wait another year. Not only is the technology proliferating, there are going to be more drones a year from now and the public has a lot of concerns. Those will go unaddressed for another year."

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    FAA Predicts 10,000 Drones Could Be In the Skies By 2020

    The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) predicts 10,000 commercial drones could be in the skies by 2020 after guidelines are approved. For now, Congress has asked the FAA to write regulations on civil operation of small unmanned aircraft systems in the national airspace and submit them by 2015.

    "Once enabled, commercial UAS markets will develop. There are many potential ways for a company to generate revenue from UAS applications, whether from new markets or more efficient applications in established markets. Based upon the expected regulatory environment, FAA predicts roughly 10,000 active commercial UASs in five years," states the FAA Aerospace Forecast for Fiscal Years 2012-2032.

    Phil Finnegan, director of corporate analysis at the Teal Group, which monitors the aerospace industry says when rules are written, law enforcement will be first in line, followed by civilian applications. According to an FAA document, which references the Teal Group, it is estimated $94 billion will be spent over the course of 10 years for Unmanned Aircraft Systems.

    As of now, the FAA has issued 1,428 licenses to police, universities, and federal agencies since 2007- a number far higher than previously known. Of these, 327 are still listed as active.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/joe-scho...-be-skies-2020
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    I wish I knew what I could do about this, it is just another in a long line of important freedoms that we have lost in the last twelve years and continue to lose at an alarming rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I wish I knew what I could do about this, it is just another in a long line of important freedoms that we have lost in the last twelve years and continue to lose at an alarming rate.
    What is it you are scared of exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LLFHS View Post
    What is it you are scared of exactly?
    If this question is the litmus test, then there is no need for the bill of rights.

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    What is it you are scared of exactly?
    I don't like the idea of the government setting up portable listening and video devices to go wherever they please with little to no oversight on their legality.

    I think it is clear that our government wants unlimited access to everything about everybody at anytime, and to me, that is the ultimate insult to the term "land of the free".
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    Look, here in Arizona, the local governments really tried to overstep their bounds by putting speed cameras every place they could think of. The backlash to the cameras and the fines was so great, that eventually they took almost all of them away.

    Keep making enough noise and put enough pressure on the politicians to the point they feel that their re-election is in jeopardy, and the will relent.

    This is bullshit and they know it. make noise about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie's Littler Monster View Post
    Look, here in Arizona, the local governments really tried to overstep their bounds by putting speed cameras every place they could think of. The backlash to the cameras and the fines was so great, that eventually they took almost all of them away.

    Keep making enough noise and put enough pressure on the politicians to the point they feel that their re-election is in jeopardy, and the will relent.

    This is bullshit and they know it. make noise about it.
    In CA, red light cameras are getting dropped by cities because so many people are beating them.

    Buuuuutt......

    There's a law trying to get passed here in CA that would turn red light camera violations from criminal violations into civil. This means the registered owner of the vehicle must pay the fine and then can appeal for an administrative hearing where the burden of proof is on the car owner to proof he didn't do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    If this question is the litmus test, then there is no need for the bill of rights.
    No litmus test at all. But I'm not going to delude myself into thinking that we are totally and completely private in our communications. Even here.

    I just don't think the government has any interest in my porn-harvesting.
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    What is it you are scared of exactly?
    I'm scared of the destruction of my freedom and God given rights... This is one more step towards a police state and a New World Order... Our planet is turning into a SciFi movie come to life... that is not a good thing... at all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LLFHS View Post
    No litmus test at all. But I'm not going to delude myself into thinking that we are totally and completely private in our communications. Even here.

    I just don't think the government has any interest in my porn-harvesting.
    My point is, if it's only about "Hey, I'm not doing anything wrong, they'll catch the bad guys. It's all good. It's the government. They're doing the right thing. I've got nothing to hide," then why should we have any protections from them? Why not eliminate the first 8 amendments? We'd catch a lot more bad guys if the 4th, 5th, and 6th amendments were gone. Police can just enter your house and sentence you. Save money, time, and we'd be safer.

    Or maybe we should start to value our freedom and fight back against these small encroachments? I feel like you're saying, "They already can read our email, what's 24/7 surveillance?" When we should really be pushing back against the email.

 

 

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