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    More than 1,000 high school students from across Massachusetts marched from Faneuil Hall to the State House Thursday, calling for increased funding for youth jobs and asking that more companies create summer positions for teens.

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    “This is important for me to be here, begging these legislators for more jobs, because we are the future,” said Sheraine Blake, 18, a senior at the Boston Community Leadership Academy, as she stood on the State House steps. “And to save kids from being out on the street and doing things they shouldn’t be doing, why not open up more jobs for us?”

    “It will cut down on drugs and all the violence,” she added.

    The students, who hailed from at least a dozen cities and towns, chanted “We want jobs” as they wound through downtown on their way to the State House. Once there, they were briefed on how to approach elected officials about their concerns. State Representative Elizabeth A. “Liz” Malia, a Democrat who represents Jamaica Plain, met with the students, as did several other state legislators.

    The annual demonstration, organized by the Boston-based Youth Jobs Coalition, began in the summer of 2009, when the Legislature proposed cutting 2010 state funding for youth jobs by 50 percent, because of a lack of federal money.

    About 700 youths showed up that year to protest the cut to $4 million, and the Legislature eventually found $4 million in an unused emergency fund to restore total spending — used for the creation of municipal jobs for teens — to $8 million. Spending remained at $8 million in 2011 and last year rose to $9 million, according to officials with the Boston-based Youth Jobs Coalition.

    Even with that funding, the coalition says employment of high-school age youth has fallen dramatically, citing a 2012 report by Northeastern University’s Center for Labor Market Studies that put teen employment at a record low of 27 percent, compared with 54 percent in 1999.

    A second component of the youth jobs program, subsidies from the state to private companies to hire and train youth, has been slashed, from $7 million to $2.8 million, said Lew Finfer, an adult leader of the Youth Jobs Coalition.

    “That has really hurt the effort,” he said.

    Finfer said the coalition is seeking summer jobs that pay about $2,500 for up to seven weeks. He said that in Boston, there are 45 companies that have workforces with more than 500 employees that are not hiring young people, and 357 companies that have more than 100 employees that are not hiring teens.



    “We are really pushing on those companies to consider creating jobs for youths,” he said.

    To pay for state subsidies for those jobs, Finfer said students are urging legislators to accept Governor Deval Patrick’s $1.9 billion tax hike proposal, and the ‘Act to invest in our Communities,’ which was cosponsored by 50 legislators. That act proposes increased income tax and capital gains tax on higher-income residents.

    Mayor Thomas M. Menino spoke inside Faneuil Hall before the youth march Thursday, saying that every year of his administration, creating jobs for youth has been at the top of his to-do list.

    “It’s a no brainer . . . when you put young people to work, it creates opportunities for you, it’s a learning process, to build up new relationships,” Menino said. “When January starts, my number one priority is getting summer jobs for our young people.”
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    I would like to know where this notion of the government "creating" jobs ever got started.
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    This is more about passing a bill that increases taxes on the rich than it is funding jobs for teens.

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    Find a product or service that people really want. That's one way to create jobs.
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    This is our future folks. People have been trained since FDR to look to the government to save them, and now we have gone from a country completely populated with self-sufficient and driven individuals to one filled with people that can't make it on their own. They can't get a job without a subsidy. They can't get healthcare without Obamacare. They can't afford taxes without tax breaks. They can't hope to retire unless they have Social Security. They can't support themselves between jobs unless they get an unemployment check. They can't get an apartment without rent assitance. They can't buy a home without a federal program. They can't go to college without getting a federal loan.

    All of these programs, while noble in their original intent, have created a society that is lazy and looks to others for help, rather than looks to others to help.

    As for the concerns of these students, they should probably start writing letters to Obama about his wish to raise the minimum wage. That will do more harm to their job prospects than any program can benefit them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    This is our future folks. People have been trained since FDR to look to the government to save them, and now we have gone from a country completely populated with self-sufficient and driven individuals to one filled with people that can't make it on their own. They can't get a job without a subsidy. They can't get healthcare without Obamacare. They can't afford taxes without tax breaks. They can't hope to retire unless they have Social Security. They can't support themselves between jobs unless they get an unemployment check. They can't get an apartment without rent assitance. They can't buy a home without a federal program. They can't go to college without getting a federal loan.

    All of these programs, while noble in their original intent, have created a society that is lazy and looks to others for help, rather than looks to others to help.

    As for the concerns of these students, they should probably start writing letters to Obama about his wish to raise the minimum wage. That will do more harm to their job prospects than any program can benefit them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    This is our future folks. People have been trained since FDR to look to the government to save them, and now we have gone from a country completely populated with self-sufficient and driven individuals to one filled with people that can't make it on their own. They can't get a job without a subsidy. They can't get healthcare without Obamacare. They can't afford taxes without tax breaks. They can't hope to retire unless they have Social Security. They can't support themselves between jobs unless they get an unemployment check. They can't get an apartment without rent assitance. They can't buy a home without a federal program. They can't go to college without getting a federal loan.

    All of these programs, while noble in their original intent, have created a society that is lazy and looks to others for help, rather than looks to others to help.

    As for the concerns of these students, they should probably start writing letters to Obama about his wish to raise the minimum wage. That will do more harm to their job prospects than any program can benefit them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    This is our future folks. People have been trained since FDR to look to the government to save them, and now we have gone from a country completely populated with self-sufficient and driven individuals to one filled with people that can't make it on their own. They can't get a job without a subsidy. They can't get healthcare without Obamacare. They can't afford taxes without tax breaks. They can't hope to retire unless they have Social Security. They can't support themselves between jobs unless they get an unemployment check. They can't get an apartment without rent assitance. They can't buy a home without a federal program. They can't go to college without getting a federal loan.

    All of these programs, while noble in their original intent, have created a society that is lazy and looks to others for help, rather than looks to others to help.

    As for the concerns of these students, they should probably start writing letters to Obama about his wish to raise the minimum wage. That will do more harm to their job prospects than any program can benefit them.
    They're asking for jobs and not total hand outs. So there is that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknblues81 View Post
    They're asking for jobs and not total hand outs. So there is that!
    They are asking the government to magically hand out a job. If they put the same amount of effort into their bitching as they put into their marketable skills, they wouldn't need to march.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I would like to know where this notion of the government "creating" jobs ever got started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    They are asking the government to magically hand out a job. If they put the same amount of effort into their bitching as they put into their marketable skills, they wouldn't need to march.
    I actually don't agree with this.

    I was a high school student once. Not too long ago actually (class of '10). I had a good high school GPA and was an active student around my school. In the summer of '08 I applied to about 30 places, didn't get one call for an interview. Even went back to places to hear, "the position was filled."

    It's not easy for high school students. They're not taken as seriously anymore, especially then when the job market wasn't doing well anyway. Good ones do try but come up with barely anything. Yet somehow douchebags who don't shower for three days can work at Best Buy but I can't get called back.

    My first job was in college. And it sucked for awhile.
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    Government can create jobs, it just cannot create net job growth.

    The government can assist new business growth and existing private sector hiring by it's policies, but for our current set of lawmakers, both Democrat and Republican, good economic policy is not a high priority.

    Ensuring their own re-election and the continuation of their own preferred citizen status, that is the unfortunate priority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Government can create jobs, it just cannot create net job growth.



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    Can you expand on this? I'm missing the distinction you're making here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post

    As for the concerns of these students, they should probably start writing letters to Obama about his wish to raise the minimum wage. That will do more harm to their job prospects than any program can benefit them.
    I certainly agree with this. Not only will it hurt the students job prospects, but raising the minimum wage will hurt working families. I'm a blue collar worker, and the last raise that I received was a 1% increase in 2007. Since then, the minimum wage rose to 5.85 in 2007, and then to 7.25 in 2009, and now there is talk about another increase in the federal minimum wage. I, (along with many others probably) haven't had a raise in 6 years, while the minimum wage continues to rise. Prices continue to go up while wages remain the same, makes it hard to stretch those paychecks from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    Can you expand on this? I'm missing the distinction you're making here.
    Let's say the government creates a new position for $100K. They have to receive an additional $100K in tax revenues to pay for that position. They are going to have to get that from somewhere, either individuals or corporations, but eventually those eventual tax dollars taken end up in less dollars in a business enterprises pocket, either through less money due to increased taxes, or decreased sales due to increased taxes on their customers.

    End result is that $100K job costs someone else a job. Not to mention that usually when enough new government positions are created, additional employees have to be added to manage them, and new regulations for oversight. And so forth and so on.

    This is of course a very basic discussion of something we could spend thousands of pages on, but in a capitalist or even socialist society, the government of itself cannot create net jobs, because it does not make anything or provide services for profit (generally).

    Millions of exceptions to this, and as I said could go on forever, but I think that explains the basic premise.
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