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    Default Happy Presidents’ Day! Meet The Five Most Overrated American Presidents

    Happy Presidents’ Day! Meet The Five Most Overrated American Presidents

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    Agree?

    I don't know... Who considered Woodrow Wilson a good President? I don't know anyone that considered him to be a good President.

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    In all honesty, I think that is an extremely poorly written article. Even though I don't agree with a lot that is on ThinkProgress, their opinions are usually well thought out and delivered, but this is a huge swing and a miss in my humble opinion.

    Judging Presidents on how their policies in the 1700's and 1800's would not have allowed Social Security and Medicare today (among other things, just summarizing) is beyond ludicrous.
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    Oops, to answer your question.

    The winning of WWI, the League of Nations, and the Federal Reserve and anti-trust laws gave him a favorable view for a length of time.

    I have a book written in the 1990's that ranked the President's based upon the opinions of top legal and political professors at the time, and he was Top 15 if I remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    In all honesty, I think that is an extremely poorly written article. Even though I don't agree with a lot that is on ThinkProgress, their opinions are usually well thought out and delivered, but this is a huge swing and a miss in my humble opinion.

    Judging Presidents on how their policies in the 1700's and 1800's would not have allowed Social Security and Medicare today (among other things, just summarizing) is beyond ludicrous.
    I pretty much agree with you. And I haven't linked that site often lately, but it is pretty out there. I'm afraid to look in the comments section though... I bet the people there are eating this up.

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    Yeah, if you want to lose faith in the American mind, just read the comments section. Dear Lord what a bunch of mental midgets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Yeah, if you want to lose faith in the American mind, just read the comments section. Dear Lord what a bunch of mental midgets.
    Who's the most underrated? Jimmy Carter wasn't perfect, but he's the best since Kennedy.
    eh....

    The Jimmy Carter love.

    If you want entertainment value... Follow that Rmurray guy on there. I've went at it with him a number of times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Yeah, if you want to lose faith in the American mind, just read the comments section. Dear Lord what a bunch of mental midgets.
    The comments section is the best part of internet reading. I usually read a headline and go right to the comments. Never even read the story. It's these people that remind me that I am not as dumb as I think I am.

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    I will go one step further, the Kennedy love.

    I have NOTHING against the guy, but you can't give him anything more than an "incomplete".

    He probably belongs in the poon hound Hall of Fame, but he is always hovering around the top ten in Presidential lists, and it is ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I will go one step further, the Kennedy love.

    I have NOTHING against the guy, but you can't give him anything more than an "incomplete".

    He probably belongs in the poon hound Hall of Fame, but he is always hovering around the top ten in Presidential lists, and it is ridiculous.
    Let's be honest though... There are few that I probably fully agree with. Many owned slaves or hurt the natives or... You know...

    Truth is that it seemed a lot could have been corrected until Bush Jr and Obama. Whatever disagreements we might have had with so and so... Really, the debt we have got this last 13 years is the biggest issue. At this point, it's probably better to look at the last 10-15 years more than 30-50 years ago since many of the problems we faced then could have been corrected fairly easily in comparison to the problems we face now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I will go one step further, the Kennedy love.

    I have NOTHING against the guy, but you can't give him anything more than an "incomplete".

    He probably belongs in the poon hound Hall of Fame, but he is always hovering around the top ten in Presidential lists, and it is ridiculous.
    Not really, his presidency was pivotal in shifting US Cold War Policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombattt View Post
    Not really, his presidency was pivotal in shifting US Cold War Policy.
    Not saying it wasn't, but a Top Ten all time President, c'mon.
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    When you think about it, Kennedy really wasn't different than GW Bush. I know he gets credit for the Cuban Missile Crisis but think about it a different way. He almost caused WW3 with the very real prospect of the end of human civilization. He got a hard on and played a game of chicken with the USSR. Basically gave a middle finger to everybody in the world because somebody was fucking with us.

    Who does that sound like?

    Of course it worked out and he is commended for his actions but it really could have turned out a lot worse.

    Even with that, you have the Bay of Pigs and of course the buildup to Vietnam. GW is crucified for the 2nd Iraq war however Kennedy got us in a mess which amounted to over 50k of American lives. It was his Afghanistan. He got us in and left another president to clean it up.

    He did do some good things but he made some terrible decisions as well. However since he was young and died prematurely, he is viewed as Randy Rhoads when he was more closer in talent to Kurt Cobain.

 

 

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