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    Default Pentagon is buying Chevy Volts in a 1,500 electric-vehicle purchase

    The U.S. military's newspaper, Stars & Stripes, recently reported that the Pentagon is buying Chevy Volts in a 1,500 electric-vehicle purchase, as part of the Defense Department's "green initiatives," which seek to reduce the country's dependence on foreign energy sources.

    A recent Congressional Budget Office study challenged the assumption that electric vehicles have any impact on such dependence, prompting the question of why the government is spending money this way. Against the backdrop of the attack on our embassy in Benghazi, and looming embassy security cuts due to sequestration, it appears politics and ideology are trumping common sense.

    A little poking around the web raises additional questions about government Volt purchases. A State Department contract from March of this year details the purchase of a Chevy Volt for $47,500 for use at a U.S. embassy in Norway. The sticker price for a 2013 model year is $39,145 (before the $7,500 tax credit upon individual purchase). Obviously the government doesn't get a tax credit because it's not an individual income tax filer. But it left me wondering, why did the State Department pay $47,500 instead of $39,145? Why did they pay an extra $8,000?

    Then I noticed that the State Department also paid over $108,000 for another contract, dated May of this year, for a Volt-specific charging station at our embassy in Vienna, Austria. But according to GM's Volt FAQ site ("Charging" --> "Charging station -- Preparing for your Volt"):

    Every Volt comes standard with a 120V portable charge cord that can plug into most common household outlets and will fully charge a Volt in about 10 hours, depending on outdoor temperature. You can also have a 240V charging station (additional cost plus installation) professionally installed in your home that will reduce the charging time to about four hours.

    Even if a consumer needs an electrical converter, the 240V dedicated charging stations cost, at most, around $2,000 (and guess what? consumers get tax credits for these, too). What did the embassy spend the extra $100K on?

    And this is where it actually starts to get ridiculous. The State Department also recently threw a big party (photos of two Chevy Volts at the event here) to celebrate the "greening" of the American Embassy in Vienna. There's actually a "League of Green Embassies" website.

    As it relates to Benghazi consulate security, sequestration will gut $129 million from embassy security, maintenance and construction budgets. The State Department should be devoting its sure-to-dwindle resources to security guards and/or equipment in order to prevent a repeat of the deaths of Ambassador Stevens and the others in Libya.

    These Chevy Volt-related purchases are symbols of misguided Obama administration priorities. I'm sure these two embassies aren't the only places the government has spent money on environmental idealism instead of practical security measures.

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    Seems to me to be a way of saying "look we're going green" while also showing that Chevy's Electric Car sales increased. Just a stupid waste of money. How about finishing that pipeline from Canada.
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    Ah, the Government Motors Corporation

    We all own stock in that one
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    Good for GM!

    The Volt is really tempting for me, since my daily commute is only 8 miles round trip. I could theoretically never use a drop of gas. The cost of recharging the batteries overnight is far less then filling the tank with gas.

    Only issue I have with the car is the price. It is basically a compact car with a $45k price tag. Hopefully the technology costs come down soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeoBandit View Post
    Good for GM!
    The Volt is really tempting for me, since my daily commute is only 8 miles round trip. I could theoretically never use a drop of gas. The cost of recharging the batteries overnight is far less then filling the tank with gas.

    Only issue I have with the car is the price. It is basically a compact car with a $45k price tag. Hopefully the technology costs come down soon.
    Good for GM, bad for the U.S. taxpayer.
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    I am about ready to buy a Volt.

    I have calculated that the amount I save in gas will be equal to my monthly payment, so why the hell not? I would also then get to drive in the HOV lanes, which would shorten my commute.

    Win win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeoBandit View Post
    Good for GM!

    The Volt is really tempting for me, since my daily commute is only 8 miles round trip. I could theoretically never use a drop of gas. The cost of recharging the batteries overnight is far less then filling the tank with gas.

    Only issue I have with the car is the price. It is basically a compact car with a $45k price tag. Hopefully the technology costs come down soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    GM sucks. F them.
    I guess I have been one of the few lucky people in which their GM's have been great.

    The wife's Escalade and my Avalanche have been awesome, no complaints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeoBandit View Post
    Good for GM!

    The Volt is really tempting for me, since my daily commute is only 8 miles round trip. I could theoretically never use a drop of gas. The cost of recharging the batteries overnight is far less then filling the tank with gas.

    Only issue I have with the car is the price. It is basically a compact car with a $45k price tag. Hopefully the technology costs come down soon.
    I think they lease for $249 month with $2800 downpayment.

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    Those sound like Mail order Bride rates from what I hear..
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    That is not entirely accurate. That is including long range driving, which requires the motoro to kick in and recharge the batteries.

    Driving short distances (Less then 40 miles) and recharging in between will keep the gas motor from not having to ever kick in, thus not using any gas. There have been people who do this and are getting the equivilant of thousands of miles per gallon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I guess I have been one of the few lucky people in which their GM's have been great.

    The wife's Escalade and my Avalanche have been awesome, no complaints.
    Same here. I had '98 S-10 pickup, which I admit was a total POS. I had a ton of issues with interior, but very few mechanical problems. I traded it for an 03 Silverado as soon as the warranty expired because I was sick of dealing with the interior crap.

    My 03 Silverado was pretty good. It started requiring more maintenance after 85,000 miles, but a lot of that was standard maintenance items.

    Our 08 Tahoe and 11 Traverse have been amazing. We have not have had to do anything outside of basic preventative maintenance to either one. We never made a single warranty claim on the Tahoe, and so far nothing on the Traverse either in the 14 months we have owned it.
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    Well this seems like a good use of tax payer money.

    Besides, they're the department of defense. How intimidating is a Chevy Volt? They should all be driving F350's with tinted windows and a ball sack hanging from the trailer hitch.
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