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    France is set to ban the words "mother" and "father" from all official documents under new plans to legalize gay marriage and give equal adoption rights to homosexual and heterosexual couples.

    Under the proposed law, only the word "parents" would be used in marriage ceremonies for all heterosexual and same-sex couples, a move that has outraged Catholics, The Telegraph reports.

    Changes to the civil code would mean swapping all references to "mothers and fathers," in legal documents, with the word "parents."

    The proposed law has been met with resistance by members of the Catholic Church.

    "Gay marriage would herald a complete breakdown in society," Cardinal Philippe Barbarin, the head of the French Catholic Church, told Christian’s RFC radio last week.

    "This could have innumerable consequences. Afterward they will want to create couples with three or four members. And after that, perhaps one day the taboo of incest will fall," he said, according to the report.

    "Who is to say that a heterosexual couple will bring up a child better than a homosexual couple, that they will guarantee the best conditions for the child’s development?" Justice Minister Christiane Taubira told France's Catholic newspaper, La Croix.

    Pope Benedict XVI urged French bishops to fight against the law, The Telegraph reports.

    French Catholics also have published a 'Prayer for France,' which says, "Children should not be subjected to adults' desires and conflicts, so they can fully benefit from the love of their mother and father," according to the report.

    The law will be presented to France’s President Francois Hollande's cabinet for approval on October 31. Hollande has pledged to legalize gay marriage.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...documents.html
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    i'm guessing that article is wrong. There is no way the govt would have either (1) the ability or (2)the motivation to stop what words are used in a church ceremony.

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    It's going to happen, it actually makes sense from a legal point of view.

    You can't have gay marriage and still codify parents as mother and father, pretty simple actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    It's going to happen, it actually makes sense from a legal point of view.

    You can't have gay marriage and still codify parents as mother and father, pretty simple actually.
    On paper for official purposes, sure. I can't imagine they are touching the ceremony (and that's all i care about).

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    i'm guessing that article is wrong. There is no way the govt would have either (1) the ability or (2)the motivation to stop what words are used in a church ceremony.
    Sure they do, the government will step in basing it upon discrimination against a protected class.

    I bet Churches will be forced in many countries to perform gay marriages or lose their non-profit status. It is just the next logical step in the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    On paper for official purposes, sure. I can't imagine they are touching the ceremony (and that's all i care about).
    Yet. But they will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Sure they do, the government will step in basing it upon discrimination against a protected class.

    I bet Churches will be forced in many countries to perform gay marriages or lose their non-profit status. It is just the next logical step in the process.
    over half of the people in France are Catholic, I don't think any political party would willingly sign their own death certificate like that.

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    You have more faith in the government than I do.

    No one thought the US government would pass a law forcing Catholics to pay for birth control and abortion causing drugs either, but they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    You have more faith in the government than I do.

    No one thought the US government would pass a law forcing Catholics to pay for birth control and abortion causing drugs either, but they did.
    different situation. Catholics indirectly pay for many things we are against - part of taxation.

    But telling a priest that he needs to change the words he speaks will cause a firestorm that no political party will ever want to get into in my opinion.

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    I think ever is a long time my friend. And I really don't think it is a stretch at all to foresee in ten years the US government saying "you cannot discriminate against homosexuals in your marriage sacrament, if you do, you lose your 501c3 non-profit status." They will hit churches in their pocket books, and many of them will relent. The Catholic Church probably won't, but many will.

    And in my humble opinion I think the Christian right in this country has made a huge error in politicizing their religious beliefs. They want government intervention in religious and morality issues, well, they just might get it, but not in the way they wanted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    France is set to ban the words "mother" and "father" from all official documents under new plans to legalize gay marriage and give equal adoption rights to homosexual and heterosexual couples.

    Under the proposed law, only the word "parents" would be used in marriage ceremonies for all heterosexual and same-sex couples, a move that has outraged Catholics, The Telegraph reports.

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    "This could have innumerable consequences. Afterward they will want to create couples with three or four members. And after that, perhaps one day the taboo of incest will fall," he said, according to the report.

    The world is SOOOO perfect with gay marriage outlawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    "Gay marriage would herald a complete breakdown in society," Cardinal Philippe Barbarin, the head of the French Catholic Church, told Christian’s RFC radio last week.

    "This could have innumerable consequences. Afterward they will want to create couples with three or four members. And after that, perhaps one day the taboo of incest will fall," he said, according to the report.
    MY GOD!

    After the taboo of incest falls, where will it stop? Next thing you know, priests will want to marry. The HORROR!


    I'm a Catholic but sometimes these priests are just so OTT, it's pathetic.

 

 

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