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    Hopefully, Obama finds time in his schedule for the Prime Minister of one of our key allies.

    Now that it has come out, he will probably amazingly now find time. Politics, drives me crazy.

    (Reuters) - In a highly unusual rebuff to a close ally, the White House said on Tuesday that President Barack Obama would not meet Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during a U.S. visit later this month, as tensions escalated over how to deal with Iran's nuclear program.

    The apparent snub, coupled with Netanyahu's sharpened demands for a tougher U.S. line against Iran, threatened to plunge U.S.-Israeli relations into crisis and add pressure on Obama in the final stretch of a tight presidential election campaign.

    An Israeli official, who declined to be identified, said the White House had refused Netanyahu's request to meet Obama when the Israeli leader visits the United States to attend the U.N. General Assembly, telling the Israelis, "The president's schedule will not permit that."

    White House spokesman Tommy Vietor denied that Netanyahu's request had been spurned, insisting instead that the two leaders were attending the General Assembly on different days and would not be in New York at the same time.

    Netanyahu has had a strained relationship with Obama, but they have met on all but one of his U.S. trips since 2009. The president was on a foreign visit when the prime minister came to the United States in November 2010.

    By withholding a meeting, the Democratic president could alienate some Jewish and pro-Israel voters as he seeks a second term in the November 6 election. Republican rival Mitt Romney has already accused Obama of being too tough on Israel and not hard enough on Iran.

    The White House's decision could signal U.S. displeasure with Netanyahu's intensifying pressure for Obama to set specific red lines on Iran. Obama aides say privately they believe Netanyahu favors Romney, a fellow conservative, although the Israeli leader has been cautious to avoid being seen interfering in the election campaign.

    Word that the two men would not meet came on the same day that Netanyahu said the United States had forfeited its moral right to stop Israel from taking action against Iran's nuclear program because it had refused to be firm with Tehran itself.

    Netanyahu has argued that setting a clear boundary for Iran's uranium enrichment activities and imposing stronger economic sanctions could deter Tehran from developing nuclear weapons and mitigate the need for military action.

    In comments that appeared to bring the possibility of an Israeli attack on Iran closer, Netanyahu took Washington to task for rebuffing his call to set a "red line" for Iran's nuclear program, which has already prompted four rounds of U.N. sanctions.

    "The world tells Israel, 'Wait, there's still time.' And I say, 'Wait for what? Wait until when?'" Netanyahu said.

    "Those in the international community who refuse to put red lines before Iran don't have a moral right to place a red light before Israel," he added, addressing a news conference with Bulgaria's prime minister.

    John McCain and Lindsey Graham, Republican senators and critics of Obama's foreign policy, said in a joint statement: "It is puzzling that the president can't make time to see the head of state of one of America's closest allies in the world."

    "If these reports are true, the White House's decision sends a troubling signal to our ally Israel about America's commitment at this dangerous and challenging time," they said.

    'UNPRECEDENTED ATTACK'

    The website of Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz called Netanyahu's words "an unprecedented verbal attack on the U.S. government".

    Iran makes no secret of its hostility to Israel, widely assumed to be the region's only nuclear-armed power, but says its nuclear program is purely peaceful.

    Netanyahu's relations with Obama have been tense because of Iran and other issues, such as Jewish settlement building in the occupied West Bank.

    But he has never framed his differences with Obama - who has pledged he will "always have Israel's back" - in moral terms.

    Obama has been seeking to shore up his advantage over Romney with Jewish voters - who could make a difference in election battleground states like Florida and Ohio - by recently stressing his rock-solid support for Israel's security.

    He received 78 percent of the Jewish vote in the 2008 election, but a nationwide Gallup poll in June showed him down to 64 percent backing versus Romney's 29 percent.

    While seeking to put Netanyahu in his place might not go down well with pro-Israel voters, the White House may also be trying to avoid the prospects of an embarrassing encounter at a difficult time in U.S.-Israeli relations.

    When the two men met in the Oval Office in May 2011, Netanyahu lectured Obama on Jewish history and criticized his approach to Israeli-Palestinian diplomacy.

    Netanyahu's office had offered a solution to the leaders' scheduling problems by having him visit Washington before his U.N. speech on September 28, the Israeli official said. The White House did not accept the idea.

    Obama, who is keeping up a busy schedule of campaign rallies across the country, is expected to take a break to address the opening session at the United Nations on September 25. A U.S. official said instead of Obama's usual meetings with foreign leaders on the sidelines, he was not expected to have any.

    There was no immediate comment from the Romney campaign, which had curtailed its public statements out of respect for the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks.

    Netanyahu's harsh comments on Tuesday followed U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's remarks on Monday that the United States would not set a deadline in further talks with Iran, and that there was still time for diplomacy to work.

    U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said on Tuesday that Washington would have little more than a year to act to stop Iran if it decided to produce a nuclear weapon.

    Iran has threatened to retaliate against Israel and U.S. interests in the Gulf if it is attacked, and any such conflict could throw Obama's re-election bid off course.

    DEADLINE

    Netanyahu did not mention Clinton by name, but pointedly parroted her use of the word "deadline," saying: "If Iran knows that there is no 'deadline', what will it do? Exactly what it's doing. It's continuing, without any interference, towards obtaining a nuclear weapons capability and from there, nuclear bombs."

    "So far, we can say with certainty that diplomacy and sanctions haven't worked. The sanctions have hurt the Iranian economy, but they haven't stopped the Iranian nuclear program. That's a fact. And the fact is that every day that passes, Iran gets closer and closer to nuclear bombs."

    Despite the recent tougher Israeli rhetoric, over the past week, Netanyahu, in calling for a "red line," had appeared to be backing away from military action and preparing the ground for a possible meeting with Obama.

    Opinion polls suggest a majority of Israelis do not want their military to strike Iran without U.S. support.

    Defense Minister Ehud Barak seemed to criticize Netanyahu's assault on the Jewish state's biggest ally.

    "Despite the differences and importance of maintaining Israel's independence of action, we must remember the importance of partnership with the United States and try as much as possible not to hurt that," a statement from his office said.
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    Wait I thought that our relations with Israel actually have stayed the same under the Obama Administration?

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    I saw on the news last night someone saying that Obama doesn't have to meet with him because he can call or email Ben. WTF??!! I would find time to go and meet with Ben face to face b/c Israel is the closest friend we got over there in that fucked-up part of the world. Obama has all this time to jet around the US to campaign, but he can't take time to do his actual job people (not me) elected him to do.
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    "The president's schedule will not permit that."

    Apparently Obama is too busy hanging out with David Letterman???



    President Barack Obama will be visiting one of his biggest fans soon - late night talker David Letterman.

    The president will chat with the "Late Show" host during a trip to New York City next week, according to the National Journal. Letterman's nightly monologues mostly spare the president from satirical ribbing, saving his most cutting remarks for the Romneys ... or even former President George W. Bush.

    The news comes on the same day Obama told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu he couldn't meet with him due to a scheduling conflict.
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    "The president's schedule will not permit that."

    Apparently Obama is too busy hanging out with David Letterman???



    President Barack Obama will be visiting one of his biggest fans soon - late night talker David Letterman.

    The president will chat with the "Late Show" host during a trip to New York City next week, according to the National Journal. Letterman's nightly monologues mostly spare the president from satirical ribbing, saving his most cutting remarks for the Romneys ... or even former President George W. Bush.

    The news comes on the same day Obama told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu he couldn't meet with him due to a scheduling conflict.
    What a douche-bag. I hope he gets voted out come November. All Obama is doing is losing the Jewish vote by snubbing Ben and doing more important things like going on Dave.
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    Not a wise move BO

    That's it, just keep on pissing on our flag AND allies you do not like

    Fucker thinks he is FDR reincarnate
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    The White House moved Tuesday to tamp down emerging claims that it had turned down an offer by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to meet with President Obama later this month, with the two leaders talking by phone as Republicans seized on the reports.

    Israeli officials confirmed earlier in the day that the White House had indeed brushed off such an offer. A White House spokesman also confirmed that Obama is not expected to meet with Netanyahu, citing scheduling conflicts.

    But late Tuesday, the White House released a statement denying that any formal offer was made for a meeting in the capital -- without saying whether an offer was made for a meeting elsewhere, like New York. “Contrary to reports in the press, there was never a request for Prime Minister Netanyahu to meet with President Obama in Washington, nor was a request for a meeting ever denied,” the statement said.

    The White House went on to say that Obama had just gotten off an hour-long phone call with the prime minister “as a part of their ongoing consultations,” and that the two discussed the Iranian nuclear threat.

    The unusual statement from the White House signaled the president’s team was acting quickly to contain the controversy. The seemingly chilly response to Netanyahu was already being interpreted as a snub among Israel’s biggest defenders -- and it comes amid a state of heightened alert over Iran’s nuclear program and the possibility of Israeli action.
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    Told ya. As soon as word of it got out, his schedule would miraculously clear and it would be resolved.

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    Dear Mr. Netanyahu:

    Please don't let the actions of one lame brained douchebag elected official speak for the majority of this country.

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    Israeli PM Netanyahu Calls on U.S. Voters to Make Iran an Election Issue



    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made a direct appeal to American voters on Sunday to elect a president willing to draw a "red line" with Iran, comparing Tehran's nuclear program to Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh and reminding Americans of the devastating repercussions of failed intelligence.

    His remarks were an impassioned election-season plea from a world leader who insists he doesn't want to insert himself into U.S. politics and hasn't endorsed either candidate. But visibly frustrated by U.S. policy under President Barack Obama, the hawkish Israeli leader took advantage of the week's focus on unrest across the Muslim world and America's time-honored tradition of the Sunday television talk shows to appeal to Americans headed to the polls in less than two months.

    Tehran claims its nuclear program is peaceful. Mr. Netanyahu said the United States would be foolish to believe that, using football metaphors and citing example of past terrorist attacks on U.S. soil to appeal to his American audience.

    "It's like Timothy McVeigh walking into a shop in Oklahoma City and saying, 'I'd like to tend my garden. I'd like to buy some fertilizer ... Come on. We know that they're working on a weapon,'" Mr. Netanyahu said.

    The past week, Mr. Netanyahu has called on Mr. Obama and other world leaders to state clearly at what point Iran would face a military attack. But Mr. Obama and his top aides, who repeatedly say all options remain on the table, have pointed to shared U.S.-Israeli intelligence that suggests Iran hasn't decided yet whether to build a bomb despite pursing the technology and that there would be time for action beyond toughened sanctions already in place.

    Mr. Netanyahu disagrees, estimating that Iran is about six months away from having most of the enriched uranium it needs and warning that letting them reach the "goal line" would have disastrous consequences.

    Mr. Obama's Republican opponent, Mitt Romney, has said he is willing to take a tougher stand than Mr. Obama against Iran, although his campaign has declined to provide specifics. He has also aligned himself personally with Mr. Netanyahu, casting the Israeli leader as a long-time friend.

    Mr. Obama, meanwhile, is reported to have a strained relationship with Mr. Netanyahu, chastising Israel for continuing to build housing settlements in areas disputed with the Palestinians.

    America's ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice, responded Sunday by saying there is "no daylight" between the U.S. and Israel and that Mr. Obama "will do what it takes" to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. But, she told CNN, "we are not at that stage yet."

    "Our bottom line -- if you want to call it a red line -- the President's bottom line has been that Iran will not acquire a nuclear weapon, and we will take no option off the table to ensure that it does not acquire a nuclear weapon, including military," Ms. Rice later told NBC's Meet the Press.

    But Mr. Netanyahu has said that's not enough and employed historical examples known to most Americans to make his case: president John F. Kennedy's demand that the Soviets remove its missiles sites in Cuba "maybe purchased decades of peace," Mr. Netanyahu said. And absent a similar "red line," then-Iraqi president Saddam Hussein faced a U.S. attack in 1991 after invading Kuwait.

    "Maybe that war could have been avoided," Mr. Netanyahu said.

    Mr. Netanyahu also pointed to America's inability to prevent the 9/11 hijackings as proof that intelligence can fail.

    He insisted that his motivations were not political but reflected a key sense of urgency. Israeli officials point to Iranian enrichment of uranium, a key ingredient in building a bomb, the movement of Iranian nuclear research facilities to fortified underground bunkers impervious to attack and Iran's refusal to open its facilities to UN inspectors.

    "I think that there's a common interest of all Americans, of all political persuasions, to stop Iran," he said. "This is a regime that is giving vent to the worst impulses that you see right now in the Middle East."

    Ms. Rice said the window to act "is not infinite" but that the sanctions "reached their high point in July." Ms. Rice says that for the first time the Iranian economy is shrinking at a rate of negative 1 per cent, Iranian oil production has dropped 40 per cent over the last several months and their currency has plummeted 40 per cent in that time as well.

    "This pressure, even to use the Iranians own words, is crippling," Ms. Rice said, adding "What is clear is that Iran does not have a nuclear weapon."
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    PM Netanyahu's Greetings for the New Year / Rosh Hashanah
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    PM Netanyahu's Greetings for the New Year / Rosh Hashanah
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