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    Default Russian Attack Submarine Sailed in Gulf of Mexico Undetected for Weeks

    "August 14, 2012

    A Russian nuclear-powered attack submarine armed with long-range cruise missiles operated undetected in the Gulf of Mexico for several weeks and its travel in strategic U.S. waters was only confirmed after it left the region, the Washington Free Beacon has learned.

    It is only the second time since 2009 that a Russian attack submarine has patrolled so close to U.S. shores.

    The stealth underwater incursion in the Gulf took place at the same time Russian strategic bombers made incursions into restricted U.S. airspace near Alaska and California in June and July, and highlights a growing military assertiveness by Moscow.

    The submarine patrol also exposed what U.S. officials said were deficiencies in U.S. anti-submarine warfare capabilities—forces that are facing cuts under the Obama administration’s plan to reduce defense spending by $487 billion over the next 10 years.

    The Navy is in charge of detecting submarines, especially those that sail near U.S. nuclear missile submarines, and uses undersea sensors and satellites to locate and track them.

    The fact that the Akula was not detected in the Gulf is cause for concern, U.S. officials said."


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheresOnlyOneWay View Post
    Our government is too busy watching us.
    agreed....
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    To be fair they were probably lost, trying to make their way back to the North Sea.

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    Maybe if the US military was given a mandate of protecting OUR country, instead of protecting Germany, Japan, South Korea, Israel, on and on, etc. etc., we would have noticed a foreign sub right off our shores.

    Just a thought.

    Has nothing to do with budget cuts by the way. You can't blame Obama for everything.
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    I'm glad the cold war is over just like the war on terror.LMFAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Maybe if the US military was given a mandate of protecting OUR country, instead of protecting Germany, Japan, South Korea, Israel, on and on, etc. etc., we would have noticed a foreign sub right off our shores.

    Just a thought.

    Has nothing to do with budget cuts by the way. You can't blame Obama for everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignorance_is_bliss View Post
    To be fair they were probably lost, trying to make their way back to the North Sea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    Definately Bush's fault... Cold War; Mission Accomplished!
    HAHAHAHAHA!!! I had a shitty day at work today. Who did I blame? Dubya. He's so darned fun to blame!

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    Darned right this is cause for concern! A foreign military sub with missiles is in the GoM and we didn't know it? That is terrible! Sure, this was probably common 40 years ago, but this is 2012. Unbelievable!

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    Have any of you ever read Blind Man's Bluff: The Untold Story Of American Submarine Espionage by Sherry Sontag and Chris Drew? It's my favorite military book ever. Friggin' excellent!

    Sorry to digress there. I know we like to keep our threads on topic.

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    Well this is part of the drawn down of our cold war forces. Heck I wonder if anything is left of our SOSUS line.

    We are so concerned with terrorist states that we don't even care about tracking subs any more. It is quite concerning because as we change our forces to be more mobile, Russia and China are making their forces more traditional. If the shit hits the fan we will be behind the 8 ball

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    While this is concerning, what we do not know is how many Ohio class subs we have parked near Russia and China, doing the same thing that Russia was doing in the Gulf.
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    I was stationed at a Navy base in the early 90's where we had to monitor the traffic being sent to submarines via low frequency. Since subs can't pop up and say "hey we are not receiving traffic.", you need to have base to make sure the transmission is being sent properly. Most of it is just general BS to improve morale like news, sports, etc. However orders to track submarines or to wait in the event of a missile launch would come in and it would be interesting to look the coordinates on a map.

    Those guys go to some screwed up places.

    It would be sad though to see news of a family death being sent to a specific sub for a specific person. Most of the time they couldn't let the guy off the submarine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Has nothing to do with budget cuts by the way. You can't blame Obama for everything.
    They can try! Didn't you know it's his fault that it's not raining in the Midwest?

 

 

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