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    USDA Could Ban Potatoes From Schools

    PORTLAND, Maine -- Sen. Susan Collins, who hails from Maine's potato country and picked potatoes as a girl, is working to restore some respect for the humble spud, which is on the verge of being virtually banished from the nation's school lunch programs.

    New guidelines from the U.S. Department of Agriculture would eliminate potatoes altogether from school breakfasts and drastically reduce the amount of potatoes served in lunches.

    Collins, R-Maine, said the unassuming white potato has its place alongside more highfalutin vegetables in school cafeterias. She believes potatoes are healthy, as long as they're not fried.

    "I certainly agree that french fries is not the healthiest choice, but a baked potato can be a good source of potassium for our children," said Collins, who has enlisted Democratic Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado, another potato-growing state, to help her fight the anti-spud movement.

    Collins and Udall will attempt to strip funding to implement the new guidelines when the USDA appropriations bill goes to the Senate floor, sometime in the coming weeks or months. The House-approved USDA appropriations bill already prohibits funds from being used to further the proposed USDA guidelines.

    The proposal announced by the USDA in January puts focus on fruits, vegetables and whole grains while limiting sodium, banning trans fats and reducing starches.

    The guidelines would limit starchy vegetables – corn, peas and lima beans, in addition to potatoes – to two servings a week. That's about one cup.

    Potato growers across the nation claimed the first major nutritional overhaul of students' meals in more than a decade unfairly singled out and stigmatized spuds, which already took their lumps along with pasta and bread and other carbo-loaded foods during the low-carb diet craze a few years ago.

    Many scientists insist there are better alternatives.

    Regardless whether it's baked, boiled or fried, a medium-sized potato packs up to 220 calories and is a food that has been associated with weight gain in the U.S., said Dr. David Heber, director of the UCLA Center For Human Nutrition and author of "What Color is Your Diet?"

    And folks needn't feel sorry for potato-loving kids, he said.

    "They're not going to stop eating potatoes. They'll be eating them at home, and they'll be eating them in restaurants. But I think the school cafeteria should be place where children learn about healthy nutrition, not a copy of a fast-food restaurant," Heber said.

    The National Potato Council says the proposal would carry a large but unknown cost to farmers in lost sales, as well as a $6.8 billion cost for school districts that will have to line up more costly foods mandated under the guidelines.

    And some questioned whether reducing potato consumption at school would yield big improvements in children's health.

    Putting an increased emphasis on physical education – getting couch potatoes into the gymnasium or onto a sports field – would have a far greater impact on reducing childhood obesity, said Tim Hobbs, director of development for the Maine Potato Board.

    "There's other ways to address childhood obesity. I don't know that limiting potatoes in the school lunch program is going to have the desired impact," Hobbs said.

    Virtually all agree that the problem is the french fry, a ubiquitous item on school menus in many parts of the country, sometimes getting served every day.

    Reducing the servings of potatoes and french fries is necessary to make room for more servings of healthier vegetables, which are being muscled off school menus, said Margo G. Wootan, director of nutrition policy at the Center for Science in the Public Interest.

    But some argued getting rid of the french fry doesn't require getting rid of the potato.

    Heidi Kessler, school nutrition manager for Let's Go, a program aimed at fighting childhood obesity at the Barbara Bush Children's Hospital at Maine Medical Center, supports the goals of the proposed school lunch nutrition guidelines. But she agreed with Collins that the USDA should have focused on the way potatoes are prepared, targeting french fries instead of all white potatoes.

    "They're inexpensive, kids like them and they're easy to store," she said, "and they absolutely have nutrient value that can contribute to a healthy diet."

    Many schools already are reducing potatoes.

    In Portland, where 5,000 meals a day are served at 16 schools, potatoes are limited to once or twice a week, said Ron Adams, food service director for Portland schools.

    "The potatoes and some of those other starchy vegetables are part of a balanced diet," Adams said. "It's about how often that those items are on the menu."

    The new school lunch guidelines were required by the Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act, which required the USDA to issue science-based guidelines based on recommendations of the Institute of Medicine.

    If all goes according to plan, the new rules would take effect next summer. But first, the USDA must review more than 130,000 comments from supporters and opponents. All of those comments will be considered before the final rule is issued, said Kevin Concannon, USDA undersecretary for food, nutrition and consumer services.

    Some see the writing on the wall.

    The government already put the kibosh on potatoes in the USDA's program for low-income pregnant women and their children, known as WIC, barring federal dollars from being spent on potatoes.

    Now the USDA is going after potatoes again.

    Wootan said parents are on board.

    "When parents tell their kids to eat their vegetables, they don't mean french fries. They don't mean hash browns, either. Potatoes have a role in the school lunch program, but they shouldn't on the menu every day. The USDA proposal is completely reasonable," she said.
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    Ban Milk From School Lunches: National Physicians Group Pushes Petition

    The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, a national vegan and physician group based out of D.C., has filed a petition with the U.S. Department of Agriculture asking for milk to be banned from school lunches, according parenting site BabyCenter.

    According to the report, PCRM claims that the beverage is “…high in sugar, high in fat and high in animal protein that is harmful to, rather than protective of, bone health.”

    Despite the American Heart Association's recommendation that children between ages 1 and 8 drink around two cups of reduced-fat milk a day, the PCRM asserts in its petition there are better ways for youngsters to get their calcium.

    “Children can get the calcium they need from beans, green leafy vegetables (e.g., broccoli, kale, collard greens), tofu products, breads and cereals. Additionally, a wide variety of non-dairy, calcium-fortified beverages is available today including soy milk, rice milk and fruit juice, all of which provide greater health and nutritional benefits compared with dairy milk.”

    Anne Goetze, a registered and licensed dietitian at the Oregon Dairy Products Commission, told the Capital Press that while calcium is available in other foods and beverages, it couples many other necessary vitamins as well.

    "Milk is its own component because of the irreplaceable package of nutrients it provides," Goetze told the Capital Press.

    The report notes that milk sold in schools makes up 7 percent of total milk sales in the U.S.

    The PCRM petition also goes against new school lunch guidelines unveiled by first lady Michelle Obama in January that calls for low fat milk and nonfat flavored milk. All meals included on a sample menu released by the USDA call for a serving of milk for students.

    School districts across the country have already started to ban sugary drinks like sodas from their lunchrooms, and schools from California to Massachusetts are considering banning, or have already banned, chocolate and flavored milk, citing its high sugar content. Will regular milk be next?

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    oh brother! why not just serve 'em bread and water and get it over with?

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    This country is seriously fucked in the head. It looks nothing like the country I knew growing up. It's gone right down the shitter and there's no end in sight to the sheer stupidity of crap like this. What a fucking shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Down View Post
    This country is seriously fucked in the head. It looks nothing like the country I knew growing up. It's gone right down the shitter and there's no end in sight to the sheer stupidity of crap like this. What a fucking shame.
    That's some righteous anger you've got there!

    Are you as angry about the epidemic of childhood obesity in this country?

    If so, what would you do to fix that and restore this country back to the one you knew growing up?

    P.S. I don't necessarily believe banning potatoes and milk from schools are the way to eliminate childhood obesity in America, but it seems like something needs to be done...

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    It isn't the food, it is the amount of sitting on their asses.

    Everything my parents ate growing up was cooked in lard, and my mom has never been heavy and is in her 80's with no sign of slowing down.

    But she was active. Now sending a kid outside to play is considered cruel and unusual punishment.
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    This country is fucking doomed.




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    When I was a kid, we actually had to get up off the chair/sofa and walk over to the TV if we wanted to change the channel. Now multiply that many times over each and every day. Cell phones/cordless phones etc. etc., it adds up. Its a different kinda of lifestyle totally. As DD put it, people just need to get off their asses once in awhile and move around. The potato isn't to blame for this, neither is milk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillybri76 View Post
    That's some righteous anger you've got there!

    Are you as angry about the epidemic of childhood obesity in this country?
    I'm not. Why the f**k should any of us care about THAT?

    Please don't give me the economical argument, that we ALL pay for it through rising health costs. Let's just ban EVERYTHING that might cost money in the future. Let people be fat, if they want to be fat. None of my business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    It isn't the food, it is the amount of sitting on their asses.

    Everything my parents ate growing up was cooked in lard, and my mom has never been heavy and is in her 80's with no sign of slowing down.

    But she was active. Now sending a kid outside to play is considered cruel and unusual punishment.
    You're right DD but it's the food too. Super sized processed mega calorie crap. Our parents didn't eat that shit and most of us didn't coming up either.

    A ban on potatoes seems ridiculous and I doubt what the kids eat in school is going to effect their obesity if that's the problem. It IS their activity level and all the crap they eat at home on a daily basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    I'm not. Why the f**k should any of us care about THAT?

    Please don't give me the economical argument, that we ALL pay for it through rising health costs. Let's just ban EVERYTHING that might cost money in the future. Let people be fat, if they want to be fat. None of my business.
    Actually, it becomes your business when the people in this country become so fucking fat that we can't raise an army to defend ourselves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillybri76 View Post
    Actually, it becomes your business when the people in this country become so fucking fat that we can't raise an army to defend ourselves!
    Not true.

    We could drop groups of them out of bombers and decimate our foes.
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    Kids are fat because they don't exercise. Yes we have super size portions but we also have healthy alternatives which were not around back when I was growing up in the 70's. It's probably a wash when you take it all into consideration. Shit I would bet that our school lunches have probably less than half the calories than the slop they fed us in school. We had Apple Crisp about 3 days a week for dessert. Had Pizza at least one day, cheeseburgers another day and breaded chicken with mayoniase another. Had that all the way up till 87.

    Look outside and see how many ball fields are full of kids from 8 to 16. Outside of organized ball, you won't see many. When I was a kid we would be outside playing from about 9am to 9pm every day in the summer. Kids probably stay inside for the better part of the day any more. Why should they go outside?

    I still remember in boot camp I used to eat three PBJ's every meal along with anything else they were serving. Was eating about 5000 calories a day and I lost 20lbs in two months and gained a shit load of muscle. The reason is because I walked about 7 miles a day and ran another 3.

    It's all with exercise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillybri76 View Post
    That's some righteous anger you've got there!
    Really? All you have to do is read the news threads that voivod always posts. The direction this country has taken is pretty frightening. The paranoid, over-protective, over-sensitive pussification of attitudes in this country makes me sick.



    Quote Originally Posted by phillybri76 View Post
    Are you as angry about the epidemic of childhood obesity in this country?

    If so, what would you do to fix that and restore this country back to the one you knew growing up?

    Actually childhood obesity is an issue that really bothers me. But, um, going after potatoes and milk is laughable.
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