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    Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
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    American exorcist-in-training shares his experience



    Rome, Italy, Jul 25, 2012 / 04:03 am (CNA).- “I never thought I’d end up doing this, no,” admits the middle-aged priest whose unexpected path to becoming an exorcist began while saying one of his first Masses after he was ordained 15 years ago.


    “At the moment of consecration of the precious blood I asked the Lord to shower his blood upon the youth and to help any young men who may have a vocation to the priesthood.”

    The instant reaction of one 13-year old boy shocked the young priest, “he fell backwards and started growling. And I thought, ‘I wasn’t expecting this!’”

    Several years later, and he is one of a new generation of exorcists-in-training following a decision by the U.S. bishops in November 2010 to vastly increase the number of exorcists, which might number as low as 50 in America.

    The priest, who is from the U.S. Midwest, spoke to CNA on the basis of anonymity so that he will not be deluged with inquiries. As he explained, “we have set structures to make sure those who most need help get it.”

    He now finds himself in Rome, sent by his bishop to shadow the work of the six official exorcists of the Rome diocese. In practical terms that means he is “involved in about three exorcisms a day.”

    And the learning curve has been steep. “No two cases are alike. That’s been a real education for me. The rite of exorcism is not a magic formula,” he said.

    “It is not the devil or the exorcist who is at the center of this but a person is suffering a lot and who is in need of certain liberation through Christ.”

    As for correct terminology, is it a demon or a devil? “Demon comes from Greek, devil comes from Latin, either is okay,” he explained. What you are dealing with “are fallen angels who were created good.”

    The early Church Fathers, including St. Jerome and St. Augustine, speculated that these angels rebelled “because of the revelation to them of God’s plan of incarnation” and their “repulsion at the notion that God, who is pure spirit and infinite, should become a man.”

    For this reason, the priest observed, they have a “fascination with physicality” and “making people suffer.”

    “So once the rite begins, normally he starts to manifest himself in the suffering person different ways - violence, changing of the face, changing of the voice is different,” he said, recalling recent exorcisms.

    “He just wants to intimidate, but you basically have to ignore him and say ‘Hey, I am the one giving orders around here, buddy,’” he laughed.

    The demon’s angelic knowledge, he said, also means they are aware that God only permits their diabolical activities to bring about the salvation of people through “expiating suffering.”

    “These suffering people are becoming saints (by) the offering of their sacrifices” which God then receives and “blesses large parts of the Church around the world.”

    “When you remind the Devil of that it makes him furious,” because he knows he is losing and hence “he wants to get what he can, while he can. If he can’t win these peoples’ souls, he wants to at least make their lives miserable.”

    So an exorcist dialogues with the devil?

    “Yes, I ask them a series of questions: ‘What’s your name?’ since when you use his name in a command it weakens him.” Once a demon gives his name, the exorcist then tells him to “get out” and also might ask “how he got in and when he’s going to leave.”

    “The last one, it’s like they’ve all been coached with the same line, ‘I’m never leaving,’ but they will someday!”

    The key is to limit dialogue, said the trainee exorcist. “You don’t want to ask them questions just out of curiosity, that’s not healthy.”

    It is also possible to “throw in things just to humiliate the demon,” such as invoking the presence of saints, guardian angels and – most feared of all – Our Lady. It is then that “you can really see that there is a change in the behavior of the demon.”

    The end-game often comes when the devil start revealing himself in angry and violent outbursts, when “it is common that there is foaming at the mouth.”

    In the case of a curse being broken, the person will “start vomiting objects that were used in the curse or, you know, the vomit or saliva changes from clear to colored.”

    It is then the exorcist knows “I’m hitting home, that this is really being effective and so those are good signs. It’s not pleasant to see, but you know that ‘I’m being effective here.’”

    The American exorcist-in-training explained that the causes of demonic influence vary from case to case and the impact of participating in evil practices also changes with each case.

    But one factor that seems to be a common foundation for people coming under the sway of the Devil is “deep wounds in their lives and, above all, in their family,” particularly where “parents have made really bad choices” and in doing so “have invited evil influence into their home.”

    He lists such things as “marital infidelity, abortion, doing things that break the family apart.”

    “What is the family?” he asked rhetorically, “A family is an icon; it’s an image of the blessed Trinity, and so the devil hates the family.”


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    Why is this forum becomming ChristanityLinks.com? I mean really Wruff, come on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Why is this forum becomming ChristanityLinks.com? I mean really Wruff, come on.
    ahem
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    Maybe he's a Cubs fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wruff_ajax View Post

    “At the moment of consecration of the precious blood I asked the Lord to shower his blood upon the youth and to help any young men who may have a vocation to the priesthood.”

    The instant reaction of one 13-year old boy shocked the young priest, “he fell backwards and started growling. And I thought, ‘I wasn’t expecting this!’”
    I remember Catholic school. When the priest suggested us boys should consider a life of celibacy, that was my reaction, too.

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    read none of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Why is this forum becomming ChristanityLinks.com? I mean really Wruff, come on.
    Curious reaction, Brett. Does it burn?
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    It's not really what I want on this forum. This isn't a religion web site. There's too much of this stuff on here now, getting out of hand. This is a recreational music web site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    It's not really what I want on this forum. This isn't a religion web site. There's too much of this stuff on here now, getting out of hand. This is a recreational music web site.

    I do not see all of these religious threads you speak of. Nobody's spamming your website with evangelical Christian stuff, Brett.

    This is only a thread about an interesting subject. Everyone's seen the movies. Hearing a first-hand account from a real-life exorcist is naturally intriguing. Certainly not something that we read about every day.
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    Whatever Wruff I think we're losing you.

    A real life exorcism? Please tell me you're not serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Whatever Wruff I think we're losing you.

    A real life exorcism? Please tell me you're not serious.
    I don't get what your issue is really. It's just an article he thought was interesting just like any other article people post. It's not preachy or anything. I doubt it'll inspire any heated debate. Most, like yourself, will dismiss it as a dumb article and move on. No harm done.

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    Watch what this becomes. Then you'll see my issue.
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