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    Guitar players - I need help translating the chords in the audio clip below into numbers. I am expecting the results to look something similar to this:

    42° 09.020 087° 59.590 (Yes, these are GPS coordinates)

    Audio file: http://soundcloud.com/darthleviosa/some-kind-of-monster

    Who is up for the challenge?

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    No one is up for the challenge? I am told that anyone who can play a guitar should be able to do this pretty quickly. Each chord correlates to a number according music theory.
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    i have never in my life heard of such a way to do this.i know some music theory but it never corresponded to a number.
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    not knowing any music theory myself, don't ask me to explain. Hopefully someone who knows can help more. This is for a Geocache that my wife and I are trying to find, and by just listening to the chords being played, someone who knows how to play guitar can supposedly derive numbers from it. I figure what better place to ask then the guitar forum of a Van Halen web site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeoBandit View Post
    Guitar players - I need help translating the chords in the audio clip below into numbers. I am expecting the results to look something similar to this:

    42° 09.020 087° 59.590 (Yes, these are GPS coordinates)

    Audio file: http://soundcloud.com/darthleviosa/some-kind-of-monster

    Who is up for the challenge?

    Thanks!
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    Found this online that I believe will help with the translation I need. Hope this helps:

    http://www.howtoreadguitartabs.net/g...rdnumbers.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeoBandit View Post
    Found this online that I believe will help with the translation I need. Hope this helps:

    http://www.howtoreadguitartabs.net/g...rdnumbers.html
    Yeah but that has nothing to do with the coordinates you gave us as an example, in fact I have never seen anything like it before.

    The link you are referring to explains the chords relative to the key of the song. Each roman chord number corresponds to the position the chord has in the scale. For example if a song is in Eminor the chords would be:
    Em - F#° - G - Am - Bm - C - D

    because the 7 notes of the key are:
    e - f# - g - a - b - c - d

    each chord will get a roman numeral it looks like this:

    Em - F#° - G - Am - Bm - C - D
    I - II -III - IV - V -VI - VII

    People use this system to write out so called "cadences". For example if a verse has the chords: Em - Am - Bm - Em
    you could write: I - IV - V - I instead and everybody, given the key of the song, knows the chords. Its jsut an easier way and faster way to write out songs.

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    Thanks Fizzy. Based on what you wrote out, what would the roman numeral progression of the song in the link I initially provided look like? I can try to use that to translate it into the GPS coordinates. I do have a way to verify if the final result is correct or not.
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    Chords are as follows:
    G#--F#--E---C-------G---E---E
    C----B---A---C#------F#-F---F#
    NOTE: this is NOT tablature. If anyone asks if it's tab, I'm gonna find you and kick you in the nuts.

    The chord voicings for this song are neutral: they're all root-5th chords and therefore are not major or minor chords. To me, the tonality of this progression implies the key of Em.

    Okay...if we assume the song is in the key of Em and assign numbers IAW the key of the song, here's what we get
    3#--2#--1---6-------3---1---1
    6----5---4----6#-----2---2b--2

    Before we use other numbering, does that help? If not, we can try some other stuff. There's plenty more convoluted numbering to be tried out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metal Marc View Post
    NOTE: this is NOT tablature. If anyone asks if it's tab, I'm gonna find you and kick you in the nuts.



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    There better be some damn treasure at those coordinates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metal Marc View Post
    Chords are as follows:
    G#--F#--E---C-------G---E---E
    C----B---A---C#------F#-F---F#
    NOTE: this is NOT tablature. If anyone asks if it's tab, I'm gonna find you and kick you in the nuts.

    The chord voicings for this song are neutral: they're all root-5th chords and therefore are not major or minor chords. To me, the tonality of this progression implies the key of Em.

    Okay...if we assume the song is in the key of Em and assign numbers IAW the key of the song, here's what we get
    3#--2#--1---6-------3---1---1
    6----5---4----6#-----2---2b--2

    Before we use other numbering, does that help? If not, we can try some other stuff. There's plenty more convoluted numbering to be tried out.
    This definitely helps. The correct number of numbers is there.
    If we map these to the GPS coordinates format we get this:

    N32 16.311
    W65 46.222

    I ran those coordinates through the checker that is available, and they are not correct.

    I am sure that the final result will be near to these coordinates:
    N 42 09.020
    W 87 59.590

    I am positive that the first 2 numbers in each string will be 42 and 87. (Currently we have them as 32 and 65).

    Is there another numbering system that will result in the first two numbers in each set being 42 and 87?
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    Ok, you got me. This is interesting as heck.

    I'm gonna look into this.... maybe there is some sort of different "implied" root chord system that would render a 42 and 87 first, although that seems unlikely on the surface -- since the numbers should all shift together and remain the same "distance" from each other no matter what the designated root note is.

    For example, if the numbers that Metal Marc found above started with "53", then shift the root chord up a step and they become "42" instead, and so on.

    I'm wondering if it has to do more with the note frequencies and harmonics instead... as in, the mathematical representation of the music instead of the musical representation.

    42Hz is roughly a sharp E note, and 87Hz is roughly an F.... not sure where that gets you, but in the key of E, that's the 1 note and flatted 2 note....

    Are you ABSOLUTELY sure that the first 2 groupings are 42 and 87?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeoBandit View Post
    I am sure that the final result will be near to these coordinates:
    N 42 09.020
    W 87 59.590
    If that is roughly what you wanna get than it can't be done with the roman numeral system of cadencing as there can't be a zero as there is never a note in the zero position of a specific key.

    What system do you use anyway? Maybe wanna share that instead of keeping us in the dark? What song is it anyway, did you play it? If so you know the chords anyway.

 

 

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