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    Default Van Halen 2012 US tour statistics

    This all courtesy of Pollstar's bi-annual Top 100 Tours page.


    Tour gross: $44,900,000

    Average ticket price: $100.11

    Average number of tickets sold per show: 9,513 (why does that seem like a very low number?)

    Total number of tickets sold: 448,506

    Average gate per show: $955,319

    Cities/Shows: 47/49

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    Less than 10,000 per show on average doesn't seem right. Looks like they still made good money for a few months work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Van Bundy View Post

    Average ticket price: $100.11

    Average number of tickets sold per show: 9,513


    (why does that seem like a very low number?)
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    $45 mill is not too Shabby!!!!

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    VH is also the #3 top grossing tour:
    http://www.pollstar.com/news_article.aspx?ID=802058

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcooper3 View Post
    VH is also the #3 top grossing tour:
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    thats fucking great!!! this is a big fuck you to anyone that doubts vh. this is the greatest rock comeback ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoident View Post
    thats fucking great!!! this is a big fuck you to anyone that doubts vh. this is the greatest rock comeback ever
    No, that would have been the 07 tour. I believe it grossed 57 mil in 39 shows. Less shows, more money.

    I predicted this before the tour started. I said attendance would be down, because a lot of the people who would pay outrageous prices to see VH already did that in 07-08.

    Not saying this tour wasn't successful, but it's down significantly from 07.

    If VH wants to sell out big arenas again, they're going to need a decent supporting act. Nothing wrong with Kool and the Gang, but they're not compatible with hard rock.

    They need another "name"....AIC, Tesla, someone like that.

    Either that, or they need to do a co-headline tour with an equal-stature band like Aerosmith, like Kiss and Crue are doing. They could sell out amphitheaters like that.

    The other option would be to lower ticket prices and sell more of them. I'd rather play to 18k people at 50 bucks per ticket than 9k at 100 per.
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    Wow numbers are way down from last tour. Surprising. What did 04 gross?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacfanweb View Post
    No, that would have been the 07 tour. I believe it grossed 57 mil in 39 shows. Less shows, more money.

    I predicted this before the tour started. I said attendance would be down, because a lot of the people who would pay outrageous prices to see VH already did that in 07-08.

    Not saying this tour wasn't successful, but it's down significantly from 07.

    If VH wants to sell out big arenas again, they're going to need a decent supporting act. Nothing wrong with Kool and the Gang, but they're not compatible with hard rock.

    They need another "name"....AIC, Tesla, someone like that.

    Either that, or they need to do a co-headline tour with an equal-stature band like Aerosmith, like Kiss and Crue are doing. They could sell out amphitheaters like that.

    The other option would be to lower ticket prices and sell more of them. I'd rather play to 18k people at 50 bucks per ticket than 9k at 100 per.
    lowering ticket prices is the way to go. i agree and if they did that and AIC opening now that would be a sell out arena tour

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Wow numbers are way down from last tour. Surprising. What did 04 gross?
    Not really that bad.

    2004 - grossed $55m with 80 shows = $687,000 average

    07/08 - grossed $93 with 76 shows = £1,222,000 average

    If the band wants to sell out they just need to lower the prices - but that lowers the overall gross so it wont happen.

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    Numbers may have been lower but it's not like the attendence of Spinal Tap.

    I do think the prices could be lower but I don't expect it.
    And VH was certainly not the most expensive out there.
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    In all fairness, Roger Waters was #2, had a higher average ticket price & had more than double the average attendance of VH.

    61.9 million
    $107.58 avg price
    19,181 avg attendance
    $2,063,469 avg gate
    30 cities, 33 shows.

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    In terms of context, ranking number 3 is still pretty damn solid.

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    These numbers support the theory that when it comes to a choice of seeing a reunion with a Dave vs. a new album with Dave, the reunion wins.

    Musically, VH was definitely better in 2012 over 2007-08. Al is still Al. But a sober Ed with no hand ailment issues led a marked improvement in his playing. And Wolfie is a much better bass player now, and holds his own with the background vocals.

    The complaints I heard during the Dallas show were all about Dave. Everyone raved about how tight the Van Halens sounded. But a few were down on Dave.

    I saw VH twice in 07-08 and twice this tour. I definitely preferred them, overall, on this tour. I thought the improvement in Ed and Wolfie more than made up for any degradation in Dave's vocals (perceived or real).

    The other complaint I heard was that "they played too many of the new songs". Most casual fans have not heard ADKOT. Most casual fans just want to hear the old hits or well done covers, instead of brand new material.

    Which helps explain why there was more hype in 07-08. No album, just a reunion with Dave. Only hits and nicely done covers of well known songs, like Crossroads.

    That seems to have more drawing power than an all-new album, no matter how great that album is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abe5150 View Post
    These numbers support the theory that when it comes to a choice of seeing a reunion with a Dave vs. a new album with Dave, the reunion wins.

    Musically, VH was definitely better in 2012 over 2007-08. Al is still Al. But a sober Ed with no hand ailment issues led a marked improvement in his playing. And Wolfie is a much better bass player now, and holds his own with the background vocals.

    The complaints I heard during the Dallas show were all about Dave. Everyone raved about how tight the Van Halens sounded. But a few were down on Dave.

    I saw VH twice in 07-08 and twice this tour. I definitely preferred them, overall, on this tour. I thought the improvement in Ed and Wolfie more than made up for any degradation in Dave's vocals (perceived or real).

    The other complaint I heard was that "they played too many of the new songs". Most casual fans have not heard ADKOT. Most casual fans just want to hear the old hits or well done covers, instead of brand new material.

    Which helps explain why there was more hype in 07-08. No album, just a reunion with Dave. Only hits and nicely done covers of well known songs, like Crossroads.

    That seems to have more drawing power than an all-new album, no matter how great that album is.
    I saw them in Oct 2007 and woulda seen them again if I coulda afforded it. Obombanomics sux.

 

 

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