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    The band’s record label assigned Ted Cohen to go on tour with them in their glory years. Here’s what he saw.

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    By Michael Wilton Thursday, May 31 2012

    On the first night of Van Halen’s 1978 world tour, in Madison, Wis., the band burst into the hotel room of their artist development director, Ted Cohen, and threw all of the furniture out of the window.
    This was madness, for sure, but a calculated madness. When Cohen — the man sent by the record label to keep them on time and on task — confronted them about the incident, they said they’d read about Led Zeppelin and The Who doing the same thing. Thus, for years to come they left a trail of broken tables, shattered mirrors and stained carpeting in their wake, not to mention fire alarms set off in the middle of the night. The strange thing was the group always took responsibility; in fact, they would budget cash to pay for their hijinks.
    That infamous night in Madison began Cohen’s trial by fire with the Southern California hard-rock legends, who went on to pioneer a stadium sound that would help them sell tens of millions of records. Van Halen were equally known for their bad-boy personas, not to mention wardrobes that spawned a whole new generation of hair metalers in Spandex.
    Of course, Cohen was no stranger to rock-star behavior. In his role at Warner Music, he’d shared private jets with Fleetwood Mac, received home visits from Prince and witnessed firsthand the Sex Pistols’ breakup.
    With Van Halen, he spent huge chunks of time with them during their late-’70s and early-’80s glory years, in tour buses, hotel rooms, radio station green rooms and backstage, where he was given the duty of distributing backstage passes to the cutest girls in the audience. “Sixty or 70 of them would show up backstage,” Cohen says, “and then there was the usual casting call.”
    If this sounds sleazy, it was; the band members would determine a dozen or so of this group worthy of the “semi-finals” (Cohen’s words), at which point about half would be invited back to the hotel to party. Next, “the portable bar was rolled in, and an all-nighter took place,” he says.
    It’s fair to say Cohen was unprepared for this seemingly nonstop bacchanal. Originally from Cleveland, he preferred a casual uniform of jeans and T-shirts and, rather than feathered bangs, sported short hair and a mustache. These days Cohen lives in the Hollywood Hills, and on the occasion of the band’s latest tour — which hits Staples Center on June 1 and June 9 — and comeback album, A Different Kind of Truth, he reminisced about his time with the act in the bad old days, at the height of their fame and decadence.
    “I was there to keep the lightning in the bottle and make sure they kept their heads on straight,” he explains. “Control was elusive, but staying on schedule and on target was mandatory.” The band managed to stay focused due to their first-rate work ethic, he adds, but their disparate personalities would eventually rip them apart.
    In 1972 brothers Eddie and Alex Van Halen enlisted charismatic frontman David Lee Roth and drummer Michael Anthony to round out their group. Cohen first saw them perform at a rehearsal for Warner Music executives at Whisky a Go Go in early 1978. He immediately predicted big things. “It was obvious just how hard they’d been working for the previous six years,” he says. “Their craftsmanship was excellent: Eddie was a genius on his guitar, and they jelled incredibly well on stage.”
    The band’s secret, he came to realize, was that even in stadiums they were able to re-create the feeling of an intimate club show.
    In the beginning, the members viewed themselves as a foursome of equals, dividing up the songwriting credits and royalties equally, Cohen says. “It was done with the whole attitude of ‘We’re not going to let anything or anyone beak up this band.’?”
    Unfortunately, there was a wild card — Valerie Bertinelli, the stunning star of hit sitcom One Day at a Time. After she and Eddie Van Halen met backstage at a 1980 concert, their unlikely union generated an avalanche of tabloid columns. But Cohen maintains that as soon as the television star appeared on the scene, she began to drive a wedge between the members of the group, Yoko Ono–style. (Neither Van Halen’s nor Bertinelli’s management responded to repeated requests for comment.)
    The actress believed Eddie Van Halen should receive the lion’s share of the credit for the band’s triumphs, whereas Roth was essentially expendable, Cohen says. Cohen believed differently, however: “David was an integral part of the band’s success. He was brilliant.”
    As a result of Bertinelli’s interference, Cohen adds, Eddie Van Halen began distancing himself from the band, staying in his hotel room and not spending as much off time with the others.
    Cohen recalls the guitarist pouring his heart out to him at the Aladdin Hotel in Las Vegas, which had recently been purchased by Wayne Newton, shortly after Van Halen and Bertinelli wed in 1981. They spoke from 3 a.m. until dawn, watching workmen in a crane replacing the existing Aladdin sign with a neon one. “We kept hitting the minibar in the room and we got toasted,” Cohen remembers, “and I just felt really bad because Eddie was so utterly depressed.”
    Had he erred in marrying Bertinelli? Cohen asked him. “I’ve made a terrible mistake,” Van Halen affirmed with a glum look. (Why the couple stayed together for decades afterward remains a mystery to the record-company man.)
    The band’s 1982 album, Diver Down, sold more than 4 million copies, but the band began to unravel. Eddie Van Halen and Roth reportedly clashed over their musical direction, with the latter preferring a more pop-oriented path. Their next work, 1984, sold even better, but that tour brought the band’s creative forces to the brink.
    As for Cohen, he became disenchanted with the business, and during a 1984 screening of seminal mockumentary This Is Spinal Tap, decided once and for all to wash his hands of touring. (His decision was based on disgust over the antics of other groups he was simultaneously working with, like Roxy Music and Asia.)
    Two months later, he says, he saw Eddie Van Halen “trashed and miserable” at the Palladium, and before long Roth had been booted from the band and replaced by Sammy Hagar.
    After quitting his job at Warner, Cohen immersed himself in tech culture. He now helms local digital consulting firm TAG Strategic, which works with multinational entertainment companies.
    Meanwhile, after a tumultuous relationship reportedly tarnished by substance abuse and infidelity, Van Halen and Bertinelli divorced in 2005. Cohen was not surprised to see Roth reinstated with the band a year later. “If Valerie had never appeared on the scene,” he opines, “David would probably have never been kicked out in the first place.”
    That’s not to say everything is now rosy in Van Halen, as they’ve been plagued by reports of infighting, with dozens of tour dates recently wiped from their schedule.
    Yet Cohen remains nostalgic for his time with the group. Their appeal remains, he concludes, in their joyful, childlike approach to music. “I’m absolutely certain they still know how to have a really good time,” he says. “It’s in their blood.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilovevh View Post
    http://www.vhnd.com/2012/05/31/van-halens-babysitter/

    The band’s record label assigned Ted Cohen to go on tour with them in their glory years. Here’s what he saw.

    From LAweekly.com.

    By Michael Wilton Thursday, May 31 2012

    On the first night of Van Halen’s 1978 world tour, in Madison, Wis., the band burst into the hotel room of their artist development director, Ted Cohen, and threw all of the furniture out of the window.
    This was madness, for sure, but a calculated madness. When Cohen — the man sent by the record label to keep them on time and on task — confronted them about the incident, they said they’d read about Led Zeppelin and The Who doing the same thing. Thus, for years to come they left a trail of broken tables, shattered mirrors and stained carpeting in their wake, not to mention fire alarms set off in the middle of the night. The strange thing was the group always took responsibility; in fact, they would budget cash to pay for their hijinks.
    That infamous night in Madison began Cohen’s trial by fire with the Southern California hard-rock legends, who went on to pioneer a stadium sound that would help them sell tens of millions of records. Van Halen were equally known for their bad-boy personas, not to mention wardrobes that spawned a whole new generation of hair metalers in Spandex.
    Of course, Cohen was no stranger to rock-star behavior. In his role at Warner Music, he’d shared private jets with Fleetwood Mac, received home visits from Prince and witnessed firsthand the Sex Pistols’ breakup.
    With Van Halen, he spent huge chunks of time with them during their late-’70s and early-’80s glory years, in tour buses, hotel rooms, radio station green rooms and backstage, where he was given the duty of distributing backstage passes to the cutest girls in the audience. “Sixty or 70 of them would show up backstage,” Cohen says, “and then there was the usual casting call.”
    If this sounds sleazy, it was; the band members would determine a dozen or so of this group worthy of the “semi-finals” (Cohen’s words), at which point about half would be invited back to the hotel to party. Next, “the portable bar was rolled in, and an all-nighter took place,” he says.
    It’s fair to say Cohen was unprepared for this seemingly nonstop bacchanal. Originally from Cleveland, he preferred a casual uniform of jeans and T-shirts and, rather than feathered bangs, sported short hair and a mustache. These days Cohen lives in the Hollywood Hills, and on the occasion of the band’s latest tour — which hits Staples Center on June 1 and June 9 — and comeback album, A Different Kind of Truth, he reminisced about his time with the act in the bad old days, at the height of their fame and decadence.
    “I was there to keep the lightning in the bottle and make sure they kept their heads on straight,” he explains. “Control was elusive, but staying on schedule and on target was mandatory.” The band managed to stay focused due to their first-rate work ethic, he adds, but their disparate personalities would eventually rip them apart.
    In 1972 brothers Eddie and Alex Van Halen enlisted charismatic frontman David Lee Roth and drummer Michael Anthony to round out their group. Cohen first saw them perform at a rehearsal for Warner Music executives at Whisky a Go Go in early 1978. He immediately predicted big things. “It was obvious just how hard they’d been working for the previous six years,” he says. “Their craftsmanship was excellent: Eddie was a genius on his guitar, and they jelled incredibly well on stage.”
    The band’s secret, he came to realize, was that even in stadiums they were able to re-create the feeling of an intimate club show.
    In the beginning, the members viewed themselves as a foursome of equals, dividing up the songwriting credits and royalties equally, Cohen says. “It was done with the whole attitude of ‘We’re not going to let anything or anyone beak up this band.’?”
    Unfortunately, there was a wild card — Valerie Bertinelli, the stunning star of hit sitcom One Day at a Time. After she and Eddie Van Halen met backstage at a 1980 concert, their unlikely union generated an avalanche of tabloid columns. But Cohen maintains that as soon as the television star appeared on the scene, she began to drive a wedge between the members of the group, Yoko Ono–style. (Neither Van Halen’s nor Bertinelli’s management responded to repeated requests for comment.)
    The actress believed Eddie Van Halen should receive the lion’s share of the credit for the band’s triumphs, whereas Roth was essentially expendable, Cohen says. Cohen believed differently, however: “David was an integral part of the band’s success. He was brilliant.”
    As a result of Bertinelli’s interference, Cohen adds, Eddie Van Halen began distancing himself from the band, staying in his hotel room and not spending as much off time with the others.
    Cohen recalls the guitarist pouring his heart out to him at the Aladdin Hotel in Las Vegas, which had recently been purchased by Wayne Newton, shortly after Van Halen and Bertinelli wed in 1981. They spoke from 3 a.m. until dawn, watching workmen in a crane replacing the existing Aladdin sign with a neon one. “We kept hitting the minibar in the room and we got toasted,” Cohen remembers, “and I just felt really bad because Eddie was so utterly depressed.”
    Had he erred in marrying Bertinelli? Cohen asked him. “I’ve made a terrible mistake,” Van Halen affirmed with a glum look. (Why the couple stayed together for decades afterward remains a mystery to the record-company man.)
    The band’s 1982 album, Diver Down, sold more than 4 million copies, but the band began to unravel. Eddie Van Halen and Roth reportedly clashed over their musical direction, with the latter preferring a more pop-oriented path. Their next work, 1984, sold even better, but that tour brought the band’s creative forces to the brink.
    As for Cohen, he became disenchanted with the business, and during a 1984 screening of seminal mockumentary This Is Spinal Tap, decided once and for all to wash his hands of touring. (His decision was based on disgust over the antics of other groups he was simultaneously working with, like Roxy Music and Asia.)
    Two months later, he says, he saw Eddie Van Halen “trashed and miserable” at the Palladium, and before long Roth had been booted from the band and replaced by Sammy Hagar.
    After quitting his job at Warner, Cohen immersed himself in tech culture. He now helms local digital consulting firm TAG Strategic, which works with multinational entertainment companies.
    Meanwhile, after a tumultuous relationship reportedly tarnished by substance abuse and infidelity, Van Halen and Bertinelli divorced in 2005. Cohen was not surprised to see Roth reinstated with the band a year later. “If Valerie had never appeared on the scene,” he opines, “David would probably have never been kicked out in the first place.”
    That’s not to say everything is now rosy in Van Halen, as they’ve been plagued by reports of infighting, with dozens of tour dates recently wiped from their schedule.
    Yet Cohen remains nostalgic for his time with the group. Their appeal remains, he concludes, in their joyful, childlike approach to music. “I’m absolutely certain they still know how to have a really good time,” he says. “It’s in their blood.”
    This is the first time I've seen someone blatantly point the finger at Valerie. Dave hinted at this in his book but he never flat out said it. I know it's common knowledge that she didn't like Dave but this is some serious finger pointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    This is the first time I've seen someone blatantly point the finger at Valerie. Dave hinted at this in his book but he never flat out said it. I know it's common knowledge that she didn't like Dave but this is some serious finger pointing.
    Agreed, but in the same article the guy says Dave was "kicked out of the band" so who knows how the years and stories have been sensationalized in this guy's head.

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    "Drummer, Michael Anthony??" Great fact checking there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jape Man View Post
    "Drummer, Michael Anthony??" Great fact checking there.
    Michael Anthony on drums, Wolfgang Van Halen on bass, Alex Van Halen as the guy offering people to get Van Halen tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinner's swing View Post
    Agreed, but in the same article the guy says Dave was "kicked out of the band" so who knows how the years and stories have been sensationalized in this guy's head.
    Yeah, I was scratching my head over that one. Eddie and Dave are on record that Dave left. WTF?

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    Very interesting read!

    I recall something about how it pissed Dave off when Eddie and Valerie were getting more attention from the press than he was.

    Even more interesting that the author isn't surprised Dave is back only after Ed and Val split up. Makes me wonder if or how much Val may have pushed Ed to take more credit and step up as the spokesman for the band in those years. Recently he seems content to be more of an equal band member again, working hard, singing more, and not out there speaking for the band. Hmmmm....
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    Damn women, everything started to go down hill once we gave them the right to vote....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Damn women, everything started to go down hill once we gave them the right to vote....
    Now that's funny right there! I needed a smile today, thanks.

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    Certainly in the televised interviews I've seen of Ed and Val together, she was definitely the one wearing the trousers in their relationship, speaking for the pair of them and watching Ed like a hawk if any questions were directed towards him specifically. You could quite clearly see from the way the two of them interacted that she pulled all the strings and could quite possibly be a somewhat demanding woman (and, no, I'm NOT talking about her sexual demands either before any of you gentlemen see fit to take the conversation in that direction!). None of the comments in this article surprise me in the slightest - apart from, as has been said, that MA was in fact the drummer in the band and nobody had noticed...
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    Whenever I have somebody "pouring his heart out" to me I make sure to remember it verbatim so I can tell the press three decades later. And people wonder why Eddie is guarded and reclusive...

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    There's been plenty of blame to go around for sure. I'm just glad Roth got some . . .just some vindication over these past years that he wasn't the drama queen who was 100% at fault for the rifts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wedge Salad View Post
    Whenever I have somebody "pouring his heart out" to me I make sure to remember it verbatim so I can tell the press three decades later. And people wonder why Eddie is guarded and reclusive...

    Oh, and remember...if you're ever in the market for digital consulting, there's no better outfit than TAG Strategic.
    Yep...Once I began reading this little nugget my mind immediately began to ask the question of what, exactly, was this guys latest project, product, etc. we'd certainly be hearing about at some point in the article. And good point about why Ed is so guarded and reclusive. Fame and fortune is nice, but the trade-offs can be a real bitch.
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    I am sure the guy was thinking "it's thirty years ago and they are no longer even married".

    Not saying it's right.

    What bothers me is that he broke a cardinal man law. What is said in drunken all night binges is not repeated ever again, I mean c'mon, everyone knows that!
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