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    Call me delusional. Call me myopic. Call me an optimist. Call me crazy. Call me anything you want. Just wait until March 5, 2002.

    Despite all of the recent information and "evidence" to the contrary, I am predicting right here at approximately 7:00 P.M. PST on Monday, February 11, 2002, that the greatly anticipated reconvening of The Mighty Van Halen with original frontman and Master of Ceremonies, Diamond David Lee Roth, is not only happening, but will be announced on or before March 5, 2002.

    My source. Common sense and uncommon hope. When one considers all of the lies, half-truths, rumors and other "information" from the past 27 months, it is almost impossible to come up with a scenario that fits everything that has been "revealed."

    Let's review:

    11/99: Gary Cherone leaves VH. DLR rumors begin.

    05/00: Stories surface of Eddie's tongue cancer.

    12/00: Dweezil Zappa is quoted as saying that Eddie and Dave are currently in the studio.

    01/01: Michael Anthony, at NAMM, when asked if they are working with Dave, responds, "You know I can't answer that question." Why not??? He also promises announcements "very soon" and an album by the fall of 2001.

    08/01: Eddie, in an interview with his close friend from Maximum Golf Magazine, reveals that VH did indeed record 3 songs with Dave in the summer of 2000. He also says that the reunion is "not up to me, it really isn't. I don't know what goes on in other people's realities, and I don't try to figure it out. Dave has my number. He knows where I live."

    10/01: Dave says a Van Halen reunion is inevitable. He also says it will, hopefully, be soon, before our clothes go out of style.

    11/01: Michael Anthony, at a car show in Arizona, reportedly tells Rolsguitars and FullBugAZ, two longtime posters and well-respected members at VH's official website, that VH will be releasing a new album in the spring of 2002, will probably start touring before that, and, that Dave is going to do it "this time." What exactly does "this time" mean? More on these two very important words later.

    The next day, Brad Starks, VH's official Webmaster and Public Enemy #1 to the band's most fanatical fans, comes on to the site and proclaims that he spoke with Michael and everything that Rolsguitars and FullBug AZ said is "Bullshit" and that Michael never said those things.

    01/02: I call an acquaintance of mine, who happens to be a blood relative of Michael Anthony. MA's relative tells me that he/she spoke with Michael in person around Christmas and asked him about the status of the band. Michael responded that they, meaning VH, were going to announce something major very soon. When this relative pressed Michael for informatin, Michael replied, "Oh no, I already got into trouble once for jumping the gun. You're just going to have to wait."

    To me, this is the most important piece of evidence that we have. This statement Michael made to his blood relative, that was in turn relayed to me, seems to totally support the stories of Rolsguitars and FullBugAZ.

    01/02: Van Halen and Warner Bros. part ways. The general consensus is that WB dumped VH because the band would not work with DLR. According to Brad Starks, this split actually occurred sometime in December of 2001, likely before Michael Anthony's above conversation with his relative.

    Now, let's get to the heart of the matter. If WB indeed dumped VH because they wouldn't work with Dave, and VH, as almost everyone here thinks, is in total limbo with no plans for the future, why would Michael Anthony tell his relative, who by the way, is only a casual fan of the band, that they were about to announce something major very soon? IMO, he wouldn't. It would serve absolutley no purpose for him to lie to a blood relative who is only a casual fan of his band.

    When Michael told Rolsguitars and FullBugAZ that Dave was going to do it "this time", I believe that he unwittingly gave us a huge clue about what has really been the reason for all of the ongoing silence and cloak-and-dagger secrecy. Here it is:

    David Lee Roth would basically give his left nut to be back in Van Halen. Warner Bros. wanted more than this. Whether it was royalties to Ray Danniels, Gary Cherone or Sammy Hagar, or an unreasonable cut of the reunion pie, I don't know. I just believe that Dave said, "No Fucking Way" to something. After Dave was played for the fool back in 1996, he was going to make damned sure that it didn't happen again. He was going to get his fair share this time.

    I believe Dave convinced Eddie, Alex and Michael to go along with the ruse that they tried to reunite and it didn't work. All they had to do was convince Warner Bros. that they were not going to get back together and then ask Warner Bros. to release them from their contract. Remember, that while Eddie is a musical genius, Dave is the one with the business savvy.

    I also believe that Van Halen has a completed CD with David Lee Roth on vocals. I believe that we will hear a single from this new CD on or before March 5, 2002. They will tour by late spring or early summer of this year.

    In summary, I believe that Van Halen and Diamond Dave are about to pull off one of the great stings of all time. All of the people that religiously rip the band, and in particular Eddie Van Halen, will gladly eat crow and watch The Mighty Van Halen return and give us (the majority of us, anyway) what we've been dying for since 1984.

    We'll know if any of the above is true in 22 days or less. Let's keep the faith.

    P.S. That took me a hour and five minutes. I really need to get a life!!!

    [ February 11, 2002 at 08:09 PM: Message edited by: I Coulda Hada VH ]</p>
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    "Women and Children First ... The REAL Van Halen III"

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    I hope you're right. I'll gladly eat crow if that means I get Van Halen back with Dave!

    The scary thing is that kind of makes sense. The only question I have is where did you get the exact date from?

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    March 5th? This year? [img]graemlins/scared.gif[/img] WOW
    Just go for it!

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    Originally posted by I Coulda Hada VH:


    I believe Dave convinced Eddie, Alex and Michael to go along with the ruse that they tried to reunite and it didn't work. All they had to do was convince Warner Bros. that they were not going to get back together and then ask Warner Bros. to release them from their contract.
    Call me a sceptic, but I find it hard to believe that you can get out of a multi-million dollar contract by pretending something isn't ever going to happen and then revealing that you've been recording all along and release an album 3 months later.

    Ray Luzier is in for a shock too.
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    Originally posted by Jonathan:
    Ray Luzier is in for a shock too.
    Yeah, it looks like things are going full speed with Dave's band. Why would he get a new guitarist if he's just going back to VH in March. That doesn't add up...

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    I think this whole thing with The DLR Band is just more of the smokescreen. Who really wants to see DLR with Toshi What's His Name?, James Lorenzo and Ray Luzier?

    I have a feeling that DVD will never materialize, either.
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    Originally posted by I Coulda Hada VH:
    I think this whole thing with The DLR Band is just more of the smokescreen. Who really wants to see DLR with Toshi What's His Name?, James Lorenzo and Ray Luzier?
    Edward Van Halen maybe? I think the smokescreen theory is somewhat optimistic at this stage. I hope you're right, but my "source" claims that Eddie has killed any chance of a reunion permanently. We'll see at some point I guess.


    I have a feeling that DVD will never materialize, either.
    Possibly. I'm sure Dave thinks it rules but I wouldn't be surprised if it never hits the stores.
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    I just can't understand why people are so adament that Dave wouldn't work under the WB umbrella. Dave isn't a fool; he knows that a lot of money in the music industry goes to people who don't do a whole lot in terms of creativity. What does he care whether an asshole at WB is making too much off of VH's reunion or an asshole at Sony is making too much off of VH's reunion? The outcome is identical, why waste time and energy trying to stick it to 'the man', just so someone else can become 'the next man'. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss!

    Plus, there's no way in the world that VH could have completed (start to finish) an entire album with David Lee Roth while at the same time convincing WB that the reunion is never going to happen. NO WAY they could pull that deception off, even if they wanted to.

    This is an interesting trip out on a limb, but you'll forgive me for sending it to the Opinions/Speculation forum. [img]smile.gif[/img]

 

 

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