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    Okay, it's finally done!!! Scott is going to mail it off tomorrow so I should see it early next week. Before I go into it any further, I'll tell a little background.

    I was very close to buying a EVH Stealth Special and just couldn't do it because of mixed reviews and also having a moral issue buying a non-USA built guitar. So, I got the idea to do a custom Wolfgang instead. It quickly turned into a "Super" Stealth going with a transparent quilted maple top as well as going with Black Limba (korina) for both the body and the neck. "Black" wood makes for a more stealthy guitar, right??? I've been playing a first year quilt Peavey Wolfgang for 15 years so I thought about every detail and what I would change to make the guitar more to my liking and style... I also wanted a different body style than a Wolfgang just to have something that wasn't a EVH clone. Scott had a bodystyle for his line of guitars that fit the bill perfectly. As far as details go, this is what Scott and I came up with...

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    Body Style: Jet City "Fusion"
    Black Limba w/Quilted Maple Top (maple top from Mason County, WA)
    Wolfetone "Marshallhead" humbucker and "Flashback" single coils
    APEM 12000x778 series military weapons grade 3 way toggle switch
    Pickup Configuration: Down-Humbucker only, Middle-Both single coils only, Up-Neck single coil pickup only
    Bourns low friction pots- Humbucker volume 500K, Single Coils volume 250k
    Schaller Lockmeister Floyd Rose w/C-45 carbon steel baseplate and we also added Titanium string blocks
    EVH D Tuner
    Switchcraft input jack
    "Soft roundover" on edge of body
    Schaller straplocks
    Electronics and tremolo covers flushmount and painted to match body

    Neck:

    Black Limba w/ebony fingerboard
    .830 Soft V neck contour
    10" to 16" compound radius
    6105 Jescar Nickel fretwire
    1 5/8" neck width w/R2 nut
    Black Mother of Pearl inlays for fretboard and sidedots
    Schaller Da Vinci tuning keys

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    Brilliant Black Pearl on sides and back (Dodge paintcode-PXR)
    Transparent Black top
    Neck:
    Brilliant Black Pearl headstock
    Vintage tint on back of neck w/satin finish
    Hardware:
    All of it is Schaller Ruthenium finish (except pickup selector switch which is matte black) BTW, the silver washer on the switch will get swapped out for a black one...

    Special thanks to mrjstudios for help with the wiring and also to Mary at APEM for helping me out with getting the switch I needed. Very special thanks to Jim at Roxy Guitar Finish for the great looking paintjob!!! Last but not least, the biggest thanks goes to Scott for putting up with me for the last six months!!!

    Without further ado... Here's some guitar porn...







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    Shes a beauty!

    And probably plays like a dream!

    Congrats!
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    Nice! congrats

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    My God man, Hope that beauty plays as good as she looks !!!!
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    That is gorgeous. I've heard of Jet City Guitars before and this is certainly a great example of what they can do. Congrats man, enjoy!

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    How much did that cost you?

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    Absolutely beautiful guitar... no question about it. A better question might be, is your deck make of Trex? Or is that Scott's deck in the pictures? ha My deck looks like shit, warmer weather is upon us (80 this weekend), and these pics reminded me that I need to do something about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeK21 View Post
    How much did that cost you?
    The thing that drove up the cost the most was the Schaller Ruthenium hardware. That set me back over $500 for the lockmeister floyd, da vinci tuners, etc... There's no one in the US that carries Ruthenium so I had to jump through some major hoops to "acquire" it from Europe.

    The black limba body and neck jumped it up a bit too compared to basswood body and maple neck.

    Also, I know the paint guy and demanded to pay full price because of how good of work he does instead of the "family and friends" price.

    Oh yeah, the pickups were more because I went with the Wolfetones instead of Scott's normal supplier...

    Overall, it was about $2500...

    I should have it sometime next week so I'll give a full report on the performance when I get a chance to play it...
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    Congrats on getting your custom axe to the home stretch! Enjoy it. Said it before. One of the more beautiful quilt tops I've seen. The pattern on it and the way it lines up with the bridge/pickups etc is pretty damn unique making it extra sweet.
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    I know this may be a hard question to answer---What is the tone of the black limba wood ? To me, basswood is the cheapest wood a person can use for the body of a guitar -- what was the decision making process on using the black limba wood ? I really love the tone of the 2009 USA Wolfgang I have but the basswood for the body has always bothered me---especially when paying $3000.00 !!!
    I am truely intrigued by this black limba wood !!!
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    evhintexas, I will let you know next week how it sounds... Hurry up Fed Ex!!!

    As far as "choosing" black limba, it just kind of happened by process of elimination... We were in the early stages of discussion and I casually asked Scott what kind of woods he keeps on hand, been using lately, etc... He mentioned the standard types of woods like alder, ash, mahongany, basswood, etc... He then made a mention of black limba (Korina as he put it at the time) and I asked what the upcharge would be. It was a pretty minor jump, around a hundred bucks or so for the body wood. We then got to talking about necks and he said he had a few black limba blanks with ebony boards ready to be cut. I figured that it would be kind of cool and different to do the black limba for the neck also.

    From what I understand, limba is similar to mahogany but a little sweeter and more pronounced mids. It's also harder than basswood so I figured it would have improved sustain and crispness...

    I guess I went with it because in my research, limba is sort of a "holy grail" of tone woods especially when partnered with a western maple top. Les Pauls have been mahogany body/neck in the past so why not do it with limba since they are both part of the same family? I didn't want to go too dark like some mahogany bodies can be, the alder/ash route didn't have me too excited, and I already had basswood. So I ended up with the limba by process of elimination.

    At the end of the day, what I was trying to do with this project was to have a "swiss army knife" of guitars for my style. I wanted a big sound, lots of sustain, balance between low/mid/highs and something a bit less "muddy" than basswood. My ONLY guitar for the last 15 years has been my first year quilt Peavey Wolfgang. The more I was analyzing every detail and aspect of my Wolfgang, the more it made sense to go to a different wood. I was looking at the build from a clean slate/evolution point of view. I thought the Wolfgang was a very good starting point to work from. In fact, the body was going to originally be a Wolfgang body. When I saw his "fusion" body style, it was a no brainer to me since I was evolving the Wolfgang specs, the body should naturally evolve too. I will say I was a bit disappointed when the Fender Wolfs came out because they were basically the same guitar as the Peavey. I was hoping for some sort of evolution, similar to when he went from Ernie Ball to Peavey. He didn't really evolve it as much as I would have liked, so I thought I would do it for my own guitar.

    To go off on a tangent, that's why I went with the HSS and the crazy wired three way toggle. I wanted my VH/ACDC/Maiden/Priest/Zep/Nuge which is the humbucker only. I wanted SRV/Jimi which is both single coils. I wanted the David Gilmouresque ultra clean which is the neck single coil only. Traditional five way switches never made sense to me so all I did was essentially eliminated positions 2 and 3.

    One other thing about "evolution" for now. When I was looking at the pickup selector switch, the more I was looking at it in the Wolfgang/LP spot, the less it made sense. The knobs are at one end of the guitar body and the pickup switch is at the opposite side. To me it was like having the gas pedal on my car on the driver side and the brake pedal on the passenger side. So, I figured it would make better sense to put everything at least in the same neighborhood. When I did that, it enabled me to have yet another choice, "gut cut" or no "gut cut" since there was no switch on the horn. I went with the gut cut just for a little more comfort and also to shave a tiny bit off the weight also.

    Anyways, hope I sort of answered your question about the woods the best I can for now without actually having touched my guitar yet. Like I said, I will give a full report next week sometime.

    Thanks for the positive comments everyone. I know Scott doesn't post here much or even come here very often so I will be sure to pass them on to him.
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    I gotcha about the Black Limba now. I have a 1980 Ibanez Destoyer with Korina wood and gold hardware. It sounds amazing--very deep, rich tone but with a beautiful bright clarity to it--if that makes sense. I pulled out the original pick-up in the bridge and put a Seymour 59 in there---that really changed the dynamics of the tone to almost a cross between James Hetfield heavy and a warm Eddie tone. I know that sounds strange as well but it is how I hear it thru either an EVH 5150 III or a Peavey 65605+.
    When I was a teenager caught up in the Eddie craze--I almost chopped it up and made a shark out of it. Man, am glad I did not do that, considering this guitar was made in 1980 and was #9 off of the line.
    I think your guitar will sound awesome with a deep, rich tone and considering the trem plate, block, hardware set up--it will sing out ("coulda heard the angles sing") with a beautiful bright sustaining quality. Man, that is like a dream guitar to me---WOW !!!
    You may wish to buy a fireproof vault to keep that baby in !!!
    I am in awe of the thought, planning, materials and overall build quality of your guitar.
    I have been eagerly tracking the ADKoT on vinyl from the VHStore, just waiting to hear the tonal qualities of that album. Now, my focus has shifted to reading your thoughts on the tone and playability of your guitar---no, I am not a stalker hahahaha !!!
    I know it takes time to feel out a new guitar---but please post up a review and (if possible) a sound bite from her !!!!
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    1980 Korina Destroyer #9 off the line???

    Where's the pics and clips of that beast??? Shame on you...

    You mentioned block... I forgot, I went with the 42mm brass standard Schaller block... I was considering going 37mm briefly, but it would have been a hassle to work that out since I was dealing with people that didn't have a great grasp on the english language and the Lockmeister "standard" block is the 42mm... The only reason I considered it was to "reign in" the sustain from the body and neck wood. I finally figured it's always better to have too much horsepower than not enough. I don't think it's possible to have "too much" sustain. I also considered a titanium block but I figured keep it old school and stick with the brass since we already know it works. This was one of the few if it ain't broke, don't fix it moments. As far as the titanium string inserts, I did those for longterm durability because the Schaller ones didn't look like the same build quality as the ones on my Wolfgang which haven't failed in 15 years...

    You also mentioned thought and planning... Don't be fooled... This thing ended up the way it did from doors opening and closing along the way.

    I originally had the idea of using real carbon fiber for binding and electronic and trem covers. The covers would have been no issue, but the binding would have potentially created way more headaches than it would have been worth. It can be done for sure. I have multiple emails to different companies that can produce the right product to do it, it just comes down to man hours involved to make it happen. I ended up doing the body colored covers because if I didn't have the binding, there was no reason to do the covers... The other thing is some samples that were being sent from the UK got intercepted by Homeland Security who thought it was bomb making materials and I'm on their No-Fly list now... haha.. Actually tommywho5150 was trying to send me some samples and he didn't declare a value, so they got returned to him....

    I also stumbled upon the Ruthenium finish by accident. I was looking at lots of trans black finishes trying to find the right one. I would be willing to bet I've seen pics of over 300 different guitars with trans black tops on them. I'm so glad I only have to look at one for now on... Anyways, one thing I noticed was very few were using black hardware which was a good thing. I wanted unique. But I got to thinking, can this have too much black? It was kind of a Spinal Tap type of moment in my head. I actually was looking for a nickel or an aged nickel type of finish to maybe just add a hair of contrast. I also was thinking since I'm using a metallic/pearl black for the body, a contrast or slight deviation from the Stealth theme might be ok. So, I went to Schaller's site and was reading the title of their finishes on one of the trem pages or something. I saw some that sounded cool like Satin Pearl that I wanted to check out and saw the ruthenium name. I had no idea what it was. When I investigated, I immediately fell in love and had to have it. I spent A LOT of time finding out no US distributor carries it and it would take months to get. I didn't think I would have the time to wait that long and they would probably screw up the order like forgetting to order the matching jack plate, or only one volume knob or something. I then had to figure out how to get it quicker. Long story short, I found a place in Europe that would sell it to me and ship it to the US. I had to have two shipments because the original trem was backodered for months so they sent everything to me and cancelled the trem. I then ordered the lockmeister and had to pay another $60 for shipping just for the trem. I didn't plan the Lockmeister, it was doors opening and closing...

    Sorry for rambling, but you asked, so I'm telling!!!
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    I got the pickup specs for any who care...

    Humbucker: 8.92k
    Middle Single Coil: 5.93k
    Neck Single Coil: 5.80k

    He was in a hurry to get it mailed so he didn't have a chance to weigh it. Not a big deal, it is what it is...
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    Quote Originally Posted by At0micPunk View Post
    ... and the way it lines up with the bridge/pickups etc is pretty damn unique making it extra sweet.
    Almost like the pickups grew there.
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