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    Default Dave-era v. Sammy-era Sales Figures

    This is a strictly numbers thread, thought I'm sure a bunch of you groaned at a Dave v. Sammy thread.

    Is it documented officially somewhere the total album sales of each era? I am on a fact finding mission and am looking for exact numbers. I remember a few years ago (five or so?) when someone pulled numbers off a UK site in a Links thread, but they aren't up to date now anyway. Worldwide or strictly U.S., it doesn't matter.

    Secondly, I know that Sammy has initiated a pissing match of sorts lately, but has he straight up said that when he came to the band they sold better? Obviously they charted higher - but that's not the point, I'm looking strictly at whether he said the numbers were better.

    Lastly, other than Sammy needs to STFU, I hope this doesn't turn into the typical shitshow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M.C. View Post
    This is a strictly numbers thread, thought I'm sure a bunch of you groaned at a Dave v. Sammy thread.
    This will not end well regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    This will not end well regardless.
    Been here long enough to know that. Someone will accuse Dave greasing the palms of SoundScan execs or Sammy bribing them with tequila, but figured through the b.s. I'll get an answer. Plus it's an off-tour night so only us obsessive diehards are likely on here.

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    Van Halen Album Sales

    Album

    Copies Sold * Peak Position Weeks on Chart

    VanHalen
    10.3 Million 19 169

    VanHalen II
    5.7 Million 6 47

    Women and Children First
    4.3 Million 6 31

    Fair Warning
    3.4 Million 5 23

    Diver Down
    4 Million 3 65

    1984
    10 Million 2 77
    * US Only

    A Different Kind of Truth
    300 Thousand 2 4
    Last edited by tcantafio; 02.29.12 at 05:41 PM.
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    Studio albums
    Album Year Chart (USA) RIAA (USA) Chart (Canada) CRIA (Canada)
    5150 1986 1 6 Platinum 2 3 Platinum
    OU812 1988 1 4 Platinum 1 -
    For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge 1991 1 3 Platinum 4 Platinum
    Balance 1995 1 3 Platinum 2 3 Platinum

    Live albums
    Album Year Chart (USA) RIAA (USA) Chart (Canada) CRIA (Canada)
    Live: Right Here, Right Now 1993 5 2 Platinum 15 Gold

    Compilations
    Album Year Chart (USA) RIAA (USA) CRIA (Canada) Release period covered (Hagar songs) Newly released songs with Hagar
    Best of Volume I 1996 1 3 Platinum 3 Platinum 1986-1996 1 song
    The Best of Both Worlds 2004 3 Platinum - 1986-1995 3 songs

    Now close the thread...fast!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcantafio View Post
    Now close the thread...fast!
    Not yet...It's missing something. Wait, I got it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tcantafio View Post

    Now close the thread...fast!
    Lol - thanks.

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    Get a new hobby.......
    Dave he said " Them motherf%#kers are out of line"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tito5150 View Post
    Get a new hobby.......
    Ummmm...huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M.C. View Post
    Lol - thanks.
    I added up what I think ADkoT is...at the moment, but it's a moving target. Also changed the formatting on the 6-pack, as the sales figs went with the wrong album!
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    What people refer to is from time to time Sam has said "Van Halen sold more albums while I was in the band then when Dave was in the band." What was left unsaid is that Sam was including sales of CVH albums sold while he was in the band.

    This is not going to end well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 47 View Post
    "I like to listen to my music, not look at it on a spectrum analyzer."

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    The thing with looking at the 'numbers' however, is that it's not as simple as 'who sold more records'...

    First off, one major consideration has to be the changing face of the record-industry - albums that sold by the bucketload in the late 70s and early 80s wouldn't have sold Anything like that amount in the 90s, irrespective of artist, (lead singer), marketing or anything else - people just weren't buying records in the numbers they once were.

    Similarly, and this is going to really piss off the Sammy-haters, it IS a fact, like it or not, that the more wide-spead 'popularity' of the band during his tenure did make people who hadn't done so before go and buy the DLR albums (I'm speaking from personal experience there, as that's exactly what I did) so that will have contributed to the greater numbers of DLR-era records sold. I suppose, for the analysis to be totally fair and accurate, you'd have to examine WHEN the various albums were purchased as well as just the number of units sold and the identity of the singer.

    It all gets INCREDIBLY complicated - so, without wishing to cause any offence here, the question I'd like to ask the initial poster is, "Is it REALLY worth your time and energy to research the answer to the question? Does it REALLY matter in the great scheme of things?"
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    CVH sold the equivelent of two omletttes.

    Sammy VH sold the equivalant of one omlette.

    Either way, this thread should have omeletes.

 

 

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