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    Default the 2000/2001 sessions

    ok, i did not see a thread directly related to this, and sorry if it's redundant.

    i am wondering if any of "ADKOT" came from ed and dave's attempt in the early 2000's ? any thoughts?

    you might recall that when they did the '07 press conference they were asked if they'd "play the new songs" and it was unclear (though some of us inferred) if the question referred to dave's alleged three new songs that were worked up in the 2000/2001 session. most assumed the question was about "me wsie magic" and "CGTSNM".

    in any case, DLR expressed a lot of satisfaction with the material in 2000 (whereas the BOV1 tracks experience was not the kind of sound he liked) and did it find it's way onto "ADKOT" ?

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    Have no idea, but Mike Anthony also has publicly expressed in at least one interview that the material was pretty damn good. I'm curious to know, as well...

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    I'd be willing to bet Honeybabysweetiedoll is one of them

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    I love that! You've been on here since 04 and that's your first post...Ive seen that a couple of other times here

    Always makes me think you/they might be in the band's inner circle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtslaughter View Post
    I'd be willing to bet Honeybabysweetiedoll is one of them
    There's confirmation of your question, Van Halen style if you ask me ....

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    I also would like to know. I would expect at least one song is, because IMO that song (whatever it is) would bridge the gap between all the other 30 year old songs and now.

    Club days - STW (to name one)
    Early album material - "Tattoo/DIF"
    1984 (the zenith of CVH) BAF/Ripley
    Fast forward to 2000 - TTWN or YAYB?
    2010 - As is

    I have no evidence or facts to bak it up, it just 'feels' like it to me.

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    I suspect HSBD or As Is. Would be interesting to find out.

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    From my book:

    Dave’s Private Return

    At this exact same time in 2000—from the dentist appointment, to
    UCLA, to Houston, to New York—Edward had been keeping another
    secret from the public. He had been working in the studio with Dave on
    and off for all those months. MTV News reported the rumor in March.
    That spring, the entire original Van Halen lineup convened at 5150 two
    times for jam sessions of their classic material. Dave later said, “It sounded
    amazing.” Things went so well that they continued to work together and
    moved on to laying down new material. “I played him a few new tunes,
    we bullshitted a bit, had some laughs, and everything seemed cool,” said
    Eddie. “He was even kind enough to turn me on to his uncle, Jack Roth, a
    cancer surgeon and research specialist at, coincidentally, M.D. Anderson,
    in Houston, where I had been going once a week for treatment.” It would
    turn out that the timing of Dave’s recommendation of his uncle was likely
    not until after April of 2001 based on a later statement made by Dave.

    By July 2000, the original VH had three songs tracked and ready to
    go. That same month, Michael Anthony was interviewed in the short-lived
    publication Yamaha All Access. He was asked who the new singer was going
    to be and said, “We’re saving the announcement for the right time. . . . It’s
    going to be huge. It’s a name people will know.” Still in the media spotlight,
    in August, Edward and Valerie were spotted taking Wolfgang out to the
    Britney Spears concert at the Forum and again in November at the ’N
    Sync concert at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Vegas.

    Things for the band came to a halt around September when, for
    reasons easily deduced, a team of lawyers got involved to carve down into
    the nitty-gritty. “Everything looked pretty positive about gettin’ together,”
    he said. “But before you know it, attorneys are involved. These cats had
    me so beat down and confused, it made the cancer seem like a tiny zit on
    my ass. Everything seemed to fall apart after these guys got involved. I
    mean, we used to do it on a handshake.”

    There was no official “fuck you!” this time. It simply fizzled out. The
    rumor mill was in full burn and churn mode for months. When a picture
    of Dave from about 1980 appeared on the cover of Spin in August, a lot
    of us thought it was a done deal. To pour it on, Warner Brothers reissued
    remastered versions of only the first six albums, boosting the sonic quality
    for modern sound systems. The silence throughout 2000 was deafening,
    even though it had actually seen the reformation of the original lineup of
    the band in the studio cranking out several brand new tracks—tracks that
    have never seen the light of day. Sammy made a lot of news running his
    mouth with speculative comments that Dave was back but got kicked out
    again and other gossip. But Ed rode out the remainder of the year being
    extremely quiet.

    ----------------------- (later)

    Cancer Revealed

    Dave put out a message on his website that March that said, “There’s a
    lot of really good rumors and some of ’em are even true about me goin’
    on out there, and I would like to tell you now, that if you wanna hear the
    truth, the whole truth and nothing but my version of the truth, you’re
    only gonna hear it from me.” The mill was in a complete frenzy when
    Dave finally issued a public statement on April 19:

    About a year ago, myself and the great Van Halen band
    played together once or twice and it sounded amazing. In
    the following several months, Edward and I — Edward Van
    Halen and me, David Lee Roth — created some of the most
    amazing, phenomenal . . . the hands fell off the clock, ladies
    and gentleman, and we wrote three astonishing tunes. That
    was last July, and since then I haven’t been up to the studio, we
    haven’t really been in touch, and we haven’t made any music.
    But I am holding forth; I am in the shape of my life, and I got
    the high note — I’m ready to go.

    Only a week later, the official Van Halen website—which had not been
    serving the purpose of keeping the fans informed—released a personal
    message from Edward on April 26:

    I’m sorry for having waited so long to address this issue
    personally. But, cancer can be a very unique and private matter
    to deal with. So, I think it’s about time to tell you where I’m
    at. I was examined by three oncologists and three head & neck
    surgeons at Cedars-Sinai just before spring break and I was told
    that I’m healthier than ever and beating cancer. Although it’s
    hard to say when, there’s a good chance I will be cancer free in
    the near future. I just want to thank all of you for your concern
    and support.

    Dave’s response was immediate. “I was stunned this morning to learn
    Eddie Van Halen has cancer,” he said. “My condolences. You can whip
    this, champ. See you down the road.” This statement would make it
    obvious that Ed had kept the cancer issue completely to himself and did
    not even let Dave know at all what was going on. While it could’ve saved
    Dave and the fans a lot of heartache, as Ed said, cancer is a unique and
    private matter. It was clear that Dave was simply going to let things go for
    the moment. He actually returned to the road playing classic Van Halen
    songs yet again that summer.

    (END OF EXCERPT)

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    whenever we get the inevitable guitar world interview directly related to ADKOT, i hope the interviewer draws this out- as opposed to only worshipping ed

    there's a lot of fans who are fascinated by the "story' of the band, and the creative process as opposed to just the tech specs on ed's gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jor-L5150 View Post
    whenever we get the inevitable guitar world interview directly related to ADKOT, i hope the interviewer draws this out- as opposed to only worshipping ed

    there's a lot of fans who are fascinated by the "story' of the band, and the creative process as opposed to just the tech specs on ed's gear.
    Totally agree ... but it won't happen in Guitar World, I've read enough of his GW interviews to know they're about selling gear. Anything beyond that won't be up for discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gman6 View Post
    Totally agree ... but it won't happen in Guitar World, I've read enough of his GW interviews to know they're about selling gear. Anything beyond that won't be up for discussion.
    BINGO. Ed will essentially interview himself.

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    maybe dave's next book....

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    Were the '00/'01 sessions the ones rumored to have involved the Chemical Brothers?

    If so, I REALLY think "HBSD" came out of those sessions. The intro has an industrial/techno feel to it that I don't necessarily think Ed would've come up with on his own.


    On another tangent, I get the feeling that "As Is" is newer, at least lyrically. Just knowing how enthusiastic Dave is, odds are better than average that he would've slipped up and mentioned something in the candid interview concerning "As Is" being an "older" song...

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    Who knows?

    I don't even want to think about it.

    Would it surprise me if all the NEW tunes were from the 2000/2001 sessions? No.

    Do I care at this point? No.

    If the tunes sucked, that's one thing. If Ed couldn't play this shit live then I'd have my concerns that maybe these NEW tunes aren't that new at all.

    But judging by the live videos of BAF and China Town, Ed is ripping on those solos therefore if they were recorded 11 or 12 years ago, then Ed has been able to rekindle his ability from that time period.

    That or they are actually NEW tunes.

    Again....do I care at this point in time?


    Can't say I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hubs View Post
    Were the '00/'01 sessions the ones rumored to have involved the Chemical Brothers?

    If so, I REALLY think "HBSD" came out of those sessions. The intro has an industrial/techno feel to it that I don't necessarily think Ed would've come up with on his own.
    Not so sure about that. When I first heard HBSD I immediately thought of Tora, Tora and Loss of Control.
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