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    Alabama immigration crackdown costs state up to $11 bln

    BIRMINGHAM, Alabama (Reuters) - Alabama's crackdown on illegal immigrants, widely seen as the toughest in the United States, has cost the state's economy up to $10.8 billion, according to a new study.

    The Alabama law, passed in June, requires police to detain people they suspect of being in the U.S. illegally if they cannot produce proper documentation when stopped for any reason, among other measures.

    The cost-benefit analysis by University of Alabama economist Samuel Addy estimated up to 80,000 jobs were vacated by illegal immigrants fleeing the crackdown, costing Alabama's economy up to $10.8 billion.

    The lost jobs also cost Alabama up to $264.5 million in lost state sales and income taxes, and as much as $93.1 million in lost city and county sales taxes, it found.

    A U.S. appeals court has blocked Alabama from enforcing parts of the law, including a provision that permits Alabama to require public schools to determine the legal residency of children upon enrollment. But the court left most of the law untouched.

    State Republicans who support the law say it will help create jobs for legal residents by driving out undocumented workers and their families, and save up to $280 million they said is spent by the state each year on health and education services for the undocumented.

    The findings of the new University of Alabama study served up ammunition to critics of the law in the state, which is trying to trim spending to balance its budget.

    "It is hypocritical for 'no tax and spend' Republicans to pass something like this that sucks money right out of the general fund when we are cutting funding by 25 percent," said state Representative Patricia Todd, a Birmingham Democrat.

    Todd claims that $9 million has already been spent on litigation to defend the new law, a figure she said she received from the legislative fiscal office.

    The study added in the costs of healthcare and social services to undocumented people that would be saved. However, it found these savings to be negligible when compared to the increased costs of law enforcement and businesses that now have to run checks on citizenship.

    Alabama Legislature convenes February 7 and even staunch defenders of the bill admit it needs revision. However, the repeal sought by opponents seems unlikely, according to Representative Paul DeMarco, a Republican.

    "I do not see and would not support a complete repeal of the law, but will look at recommendations being made by the Attorney General and others," said DeMarco.

    There are an estimated 11.2 million illegal immigrants in the United States.

    Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, South Carolina and Utah have passed "omnibus" immigration crackdowns since Arizona blazed the trail in 2010 with a law requiring police to check the status of all those they arrested and suspected of being in the country illegally. That measure has since been blocked by a court.

    Controversy over the crackdown flared late last year, after two employees with foreign automakers Mercedes-Benz and Honda were stopped by police implementing the law.

    (Editing by Tim Gaynor and Paul Thomasch)
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    Yep, there is a cost associated with reversing ridiculous laws and politics. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be done across every state though!
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    Yep, that's the short term cost of getting right. Thought it wouldn't have costs?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad View Post
    Yep, there is a cost associated with reversing ridiculous laws and politics. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be done across every state though!
    Yes, it is money well spent. Will be a period of transition, naturally, but the state will adjust and be better for it in short time.
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    So where are you going to find the people to fill those jobs?

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    seems like there are holes all over the place in that study....80, 000 jobs vacated....they just disappeared? No Alabama resident took any of those jobs


    and as for the medical savings being negligible, I think there has to be a loooooooogn term analysis of that figure


    yes, it is going to cost money, but enforcing something that has not been enforced is going to cost in the short run

    that's the problem with these studies.....everyone wants a fast answer, but it just doesn't work that way

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    Free medical care and free education for illegals didn't cost much? None of the jobs were replaced by people who actually pay INCOME taxes. Law enforcement costs should have remained pretty flat, I doubt they had to hire new employees just for this.

    I would have to read the whole report to have an educated opinion, and therefore just basing a rushed opinion on the article. The article itself may just be leaving a lot out, but the whole premise to someone who deals with taxes and macro economics on an everyday basis is a little hard to believe.

    I know better than most how easy it is to tweak numbers to justify something.
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    I can twist numbers with the best of them, depending on who is paying me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I can twist numbers with the best of them, depending on who is paying me.
    I thought Sarbanes-Oxley took care of that.


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