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    Big River - Official Discussion Thread

    Talk about this old redone demo fav once called Big Trouble. Trying to make sure all the individual songs have their own threads. Might make for easier discussion.

    That means put EVERYTHING about this song in here, like the lyrics, etc.
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    Former Pleasure Dome poster/long-time lurker here, at least whenever there would any Van Halen news (rare, I know ... until the past couple of months), while "You And Your Blues," based on the sample, is my early favorite for best song on the album, I've legit wanted Van Halen to release "Big Trouble" as an official song since I started getting into them in the early 2000s, and, finally, here it is! I actually really enjoy the new lyrics, especially, and I think this is what DLR is saying, this part:

    "Listen to a seashell, you can here the sea/Listen to a beer glass, that river belongs to me (eeeee!)"

    These are fun times, and I'm excited to, for the first time (I'm still in my 20s), purchase a new Van Halen album on its release date next week!

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    WOW

    The guitar work at the end of the sample clip is brutally sick! I keep looping just that part of it and can't turn it up loud enough! My neighbors and their pets must be very frightened, or have simply left the neighborhood, lol...

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    Love the Big Trouble demo and this does it justice.

    Thumping bass. Love the work leading into the solo. That could break a few windows. Will get used to the new lyrics in time.

    Love it.
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    Actually I like the little vocal changes from Big Trouble...it's better this way.
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    I love it- tho I think I prefer the rawness of the Big Trouble demo cut. But I am so psyched they brought this tune out on the new record! now if they'd just do We Die Bold....!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Cabernet View Post
    now if they'd just do We Die Bold....!
    We die young. We die hard. We die bold - yeah, one of the best lyrics from VH. Meanwhile, the intro riff to Big Trouble makes me wanna hear a very similar lick from Eddie that was used during his Fur elise solo (part of guitar solo during 1986 tour). Puttting it into some VH song would be very nice!
    Below is the link and the only tab i have found for it. When I'll be home I'll check if its good.


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    I'm going to have to hear this song all the way through. At the moment I'm not too thrilled.

    First of all, when it comes to song titles there are some titles that can only be used once. As a matter of fact, a band should be used to hitting the Google button when coming up with titles.

    "Big River" is a Johnny Cash song.




    2nd. I'm not sure if I like Van Halen singing about sea shells
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    This song is my favourite off the album, so far. I sort of like that 70's vibe it has. I think maybe it has the best vocals and the best mix too. Everything in the song sounds really good.

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    I spend most of my time on the road for work, so this tune is right up my alley. Not sure I'll be able to keep it under the speed limit with this tune blaring from the speakers.The whole band is killing it really. Love Ed's tone. Very Vernon Reid. I dig it.


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    Charles River Mud.

    Can't wait to hear this one when they play the Gahhhden.
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    Hey first post here, but longtime VH fan. I am so excited about the new album and grateful for it, but after continuing to listen to the samples again and again I am starting to have some concerns about the changes to the lyrics.

    As someone who has listened to the old demos and have come to accept them as real songs (even though unreleased), I am having a hard time with the lyric changes from Big Trouble to Big River. I feel the same way about Lets Get Rockin/Outta Space, probably even more so since that one (along with We Die Bold) are probably my favorites of the Demo songs.

    I am not sure why the band felt the need to replace the lyrics and rename the song (s).

    I guess I just subscribe to the belief that if its a good song, and the lyrics are a good match for the type of song (ie tempo, etc), then why change it for the sake of change? Just so people won't say "they are just taking old demos and re-doing them and not making new music"?

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    Can't wait to hear this one live!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hain23x View Post
    First of all, when it comes to song titles there are some titles that can only be used once.
    Funny you should say that because I was wonderin' whether Dave elected to re-work song because in addition to Big Trouble demo Van Halen did Dave's solo Eat 'Em 'N Smile album featured another song titled "Big Trouble".

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    i like it a lot, but i tend to agree about the title... i've only ever heard some lesser quality versions of big trouble so i was pumped to hear a good sounding version of that riff... which i like even more now.

 

 

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