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    Default A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRUTH

    A Thread to discuss the new VH album, to be released February 7, 2012

    Track Listing:

    1. "Tattoo"
    2. "She's The Woman"
    3. "You And Your Blues"
    4. "China Town"
    5. "Blood & Fire"
    6. "Bullethead"
    7. "As Is"
    8. "Honeybabysweetiedoll"
    9. "The Trouble With Never"
    10. "Outta Space"
    11. "Stay Frosty"
    12. "Big River"
    13. "Beats Workin'"


    Label ---Interscope

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    Ross Hogarth
    Van Halen
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    A review of the album from someone (unknown...) who has heard the album:

    1. Tattoo

    You've all heard this one - not a bad groove, would have been better later in the album

    2. She's The Woman

    This should have been the kick off. Old time VH feel, great rocker with DLR on top form

    3. You and Your Blues

    Surprisingly laid back. Probably the coolest VH track I've heard. killer solo - didnt think Eddie had this sort of thing in him

    4. China Town

    This seems another oldie - a bit like Running With The Devil, big riff and big vocals. Wolfie does a great job on this one.

    5. Blood and Fire

    I'm On Fire 2. Fast paced rocker with classic VH sound. Solo could have come from any of the first 2 albums

    6. Bullethead

    Another Full on rocker. Hot For Teacher drum beat. A bit ordinary.

    7. As Is

    This was a real surprise. Could be Hagar era VH. Melodic, slower, understated in many ways. Best track on the album.

    8. sweetiebabydoll

    Don't like this. More bubblegum DLR solo than VH. Skip

    9. The Trouble With Never

    Another 'ballad'. Solid but a bit safe.

    10. Outta Space

    Outta Love more like. It has that groove to it.

    11. Stay Frosty

    This is another I think I've heard before. Women and Children first feel to it.

    12. Big River

    Another huge riff and classic Eddy fast solo. DLR on top form

    13. Beats Workin'

    Similar feel to She's A Woman. A great ending to a better-than-anticipated album.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rover View Post
    A review of the album from someone (unknown...) who has heard the album:

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    I am not a huge fan of the title - sounds like Rush.

    I prefer something like "Express" "The Future" "The Mighty" "Locomotive"

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    Those are terrible. I think the music will have to stand for itself. The title will go either way.
    It will end up as A Different Kind of Shit, A Different Kind of Awesome or A Different Kind of Monster.
    We won't really know til we know. Ready already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lmr5150 View Post
    I am not a huge fan of the title - sounds like Rush.

    I prefer something like "Express" "The Future" "The Mighty" "Locomotive"
    The title of the album makes me think of this guy:



    How inconvenient is that ! !

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    Be sure you pick up the deluxe copy with "Al Gore Rhythms" on it.
    Lou Reed may be the table, Albert is the wood.

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    VH 2012





    COMMODORES 1975




    NEW YORK CENTRAL SYSTEM 1938



    The NYC Hudson locomotive built with iconic streamlining designed by Henry Dreyfuss, was used to haul the 20th Century Limited starting in 1938.

    The 20th Century Limited service, beginning in 1902, ran from Grand Central Terminal in New York to LaSalle Street Station Chicago, and was its most famous train, known for its red carpet treatment and first class service.

    June 15, 1938: The Dreyfuss Hudson is introduced to pull the new, streamlined 20th Century Limited.

    1957: The 20th Century Limited is combined with the Commodore Vanderbilt, adding more station stops to the original four (two terminals and two suburban stops).

    July 1959: The 20th Century Limited is prominently featured in the MGM film North by Northwest starring Cary Grant, Eva Marie Saint, and James Mason.
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    RED CARPET TREATMENT STARTED WITH THE 20TH CENTURY LIMITED –TRAIN OF TYCOONS AND STARS THAT RAN NIGHTLY BETWEEN NEW YORK AND CHICAGO



    Have you wondered where the much-overused phrase “the red carpet treatment” originated?

    It all started with the 20th Century Limited.



    By Michael L. Grace

    The “Century” was an express passenger train operated by the New York Central nightly from New York to Chicago. From 1938 until the last run in 1968, passengers walked down a crimson carpet to their waiting cars. This was only done for the departure from New York. Stretching from the observation car to the engine – the football field length rug was specially designed for the Century – thus, the "red carpet treatment" was born.

    Travel time was less than sixteen hours each way between the two cities during its streamlined years.

    If leaving from New York, you departed at 6 p.m. and arrived the next morning in Chicago at 8:45 a.m. Settling in for the evening, after boarding the Century in downtown Manhattan, you enjoyed cocktails in the observation car, dinner with views of the Hudson, a good night sleep and then with breakfast in bed or in the dining car. Dress was business formal with no room for baseball caps. Standing in line for security, enduring a long cab ride or enduring hours on the tarmac because of bad weather were not included in your first class Pullman fare.

    The glamorous departure aboard New York Central’s 20th Century Limited was equal to a sailing on the Queen Mary, Liberte or United States. This was still the only way to “cross the pond” from New York to Europe into the 1950s and Pullman was the only way to travel overnight by train in America.

    The gateway to the Century’s platform was peopled with passenger agents, Pullman conductors and NYC conductors. Porters helped passengers to board, waiters stood at attention in the dining car with chefs busily preparing dinner. Menus included caviar, filet mignon and lobster. Bartenders in the three club cars took orders for Manhattans, Scotch highballs and very dry Martinis. The train’s crew estimated that 50 per cent of the cocktails sold were consumed in private rooms and suites.

    Known as the “train of tycoons,” the Century was similar to a commuter train for elite Chicagoans heading for Manhattan. Household names encompassing meatpacking to department stores – such as Robert R. McCormick, Sewell Avery, Marshall Field, Julius Rosenwald, Philip Armour and Walter Chrysler, Sr. – were mainstays.

    The dining room stewards had notebooks filled with their particular meal and drink requests. One of them claimed he knew 75 per cent of the passengers and could call 15,000 people by their name. He knew that Marshall Field would order one martini but expected to find two in the shaker, Bing Crosby liked his wheat cakes piping hot at 6 a.m. and Robert R. McCormick wanted apple pie a la mode.

    Passenger lists were maintained for each “sailing” of the Century. Bob Hope, Bette Davis or Doris Day might be aboard. But the Century was really the train for Chicago’s elite. The Wrigleys, Blairs, Bards, and Fields were “the Century regulars” and occupied the bedroom suites, compartments and drawing rooms.

    The 20th Century Limited was a repository of the coming and goings – of the rich, tycoons and stars – their habits of dress or drinking, their minds and their manners. The Century was operated like a private club and the lengthy dining car aptly named the Century Club. To businessmen, the Century was a symbol of the immutable fulfillment of a scheduled pattern; to luxury travelers it was the last word in conservative opulence.

    Debuting 1902 as the New York Central's luxury train, the Century operated overnight between New York and Chicago. The streamliner lasted until the late 1960s and traveled west on the “water level route” alongside the Hudson River and the shores of Lake Erie. Century advertisements made much of the good night’s sleep passengers would have in their private Pullman rooms on the overnight. This contrasted with the steep mountain climbing passengers experienced on such rival roads as the Pennsylvania Railroad.

    In 1938 industrial designer Henry Dreyfuss was commissioned by the New York Central to design the streamlined train sets in Art Deco style, with the locomotive and passenger cars rendered in blues and grays (the colors of the New York Central). The streamlined sets were inaugurated on June 15, 1938.

    His design was probably the most famous American passenger train of all time.

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    As a side note, the industrial designer Henry Dreyfuss, who designed the 1938 train, operated as The 20th Century Limited, on Van Halen's new album cover, also designed the following:

    • the "Western Electric 302" tabletop telephone for Bell Laboratories (1930, produced 1937-1950)
    • the Hoover "Model 150" vacuum cleaner (1936)
    • the classic Westclox "Big Ben" alarm clock (1939)
    • the New York Central Railroad's streamlined Mercury train, both locomotive and passenger cars (1936)
    • the popular "Democracity" model city of the future at the 1939 New York World's Fair at the Trylon and Perisphere
    • the styled John Deere Model A and Model B tractors (1938)
    • the Wahl-Eversharp Skyline fountain pen (1940)
    • the Royal Typewriter Company's Quiet DeLuxe (late 1940's)
    • the "500" desk telephone (1949), a Bell System standard for years
    • the Honeywell T87 circular wall thermostat (1953)
    • the spherical "Model 82 Constellation" vacuum cleaner for Hoover (1954) which floated on an air cushion of its own exhaust.
    • the "Princess" telephone (1959)
    • the "Trimline" desk telephone (1965)
    • the Polaroid SX-70 Land camera (1972)

    Diesel trains took over in 1948 for the steam engine trains that Dreyfuss had designed in 1938.
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    wait.... Trouble With Never is a "ballad"?? eh, dont think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rover View Post
    A review of the album from someone (unknown...) who has heard the album:
    This guy didn't listen to the same album I received..."As Is" is not slow and "Trouble with Never" is not a ballad. "Blood and Fire" is not anything like "On Fire." Regardless, this album exceeded my hopes but that is what Van Halen has always succeeded at - surpassing expectations and blowing them out of the water!
    Stay Frosty, my friend!

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    This album is arguably the greatest comeback album

    OF ALL TYMES!!!

    25+ yr. break & the come out with this?

    Mindblowing album for the VH fan.

    Eddie plays his ass off man - truly. The whole band sounds great.

    i've listened to it easily a hundred times by now. Saw both Madison Sq. Garden shows - & the Atlantic City show from 10th row.

    Favorite band of all time just came out with a killer new album.

    How exciting is that?

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    Been really into VH lately. I don't know if it's the government shutdown ... I mean whoops; ... the *site* shutdown ... or if it's the summer ending that gets me putting on the VH records in an attempt to like, savor it or something ... but it's been all kinds of VH and VH related music around here for the last month or so.

    And just now, I've finally gone and ordered me a ADKOT vinyl. Can't wait til it gets here.

    Now I guess I need to eventually pick up a vinyl Balance to round off the collection .. and freakin' .. hope weirdly, in an OCDC kinda way, for a VH3 vinyl release.
    Kevin

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    There are two things I don't like about the album:

    Alex's ride cymbal. Where is it?

    The chorus to "You and Your Blues."

    Everything else I'm happy with.

 

 

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