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    A Rhode Island lawmaker is calling Gov. Lincoln Chafee “Governor Grinch” after he defied lawmakers and decided that the state would have a “holiday tree” instead of a “Christmas tree.”



    The governor defended his decision by arguing that it is in keeping with the state’s founding in 1636 by religious dissident Roger Williams as a haven for tolerance – where government and religion were kept separate.

    Instead of arguing over the tree, the governor called on lawmakers to focus their energy on feeding the poor.

    “I would encourage all those engaged in this discussion – whatever their opinion on the matter – to use their energy and enthusiasm to make a positive difference in the lives of their fellow Rhode Islanders,” Chafee told the Associated Press.

    But Rep. Doreen Costa, called the governor a “Grinch.”

    “He’s just to the left as far as left as you can possibly be,” the Republican lawmaker told Fox News & Commentary. “He tries to be politically correct 24-7.”

    Costa sponsored a resolution last January declaring the tree customarily erected in December be referred to as a “Christmas tree and not as a ‘holiday tree’ or other non-traditional terms.”

    “He is refusing to honor what’s passed in the House of Representatives,” she said. “That’s more concerning than anything else.”

    Costa said the governor’s rebuff has become her line in the sand.

    “I’m sick of being politically correct,” she said. “Nobody’s been offended by calling a Christmas tree a Christmas tree. If we have a Menorah in the State House, what are we going to call it – a candle with sticks?”

    So Costa has decided to erect her own Christmas tree – at the State House. And she plans on lighting it on Dec. 6 – the same day Chafee plans to host the official “holiday” tree lighting event.

    “We’re going to sing Christmas carols and drink hot chocolate,” she said. “And I’m going to make a sign – Christmas tree lighting to the right and holiday tree to the left. We’ll see who gets the crowd.”

    Costa said her yuletide defiance has generated lots of buzz in the state.

    “My phone has been going insane today by people commending me for doing what’s right,” she said. “It has to stop somewhere. This is me taking a stand for the people I represent in Rhode Island.”

    The 17-foot Colorado blue spruce was donated to the state by Big John Leyden’s Christmas Tree Farm. Leyden told the AP he’s disappointed with the governor’s choice of words.

    “It’s not a holiday tree or even an ‘X-mas’ tree,” he said. “We’re a Christmas tree farm, that’s what the name is.”

    But the opposition tree won’t be as nearly as big. Costa said she’s got a tiny car – and the tree will have to fit on the roof.

    “It may only be a little Charlie Brown Christmas tree but at least it will be a Christmas tree,” she told the AP.

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    Ehh, just like the old christmas season vs. holiday season junk....I say just call it the commercial season. Happy "religious" observation of your choice to mark the shortest day of the year.


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    Instead of arguing over the tree, the governor called on lawmakers to focus their energy on feeding the poor.

    “I would encourage all those engaged in this discussion – whatever their opinion on the matter – to use their energy and enthusiasm to make a positive difference in the lives of their fellow Rhode Islanders,” Chafee told the Associated Press.
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    Has anyone really felt stifled and unable to enjoy Christmas because of lawmakers and political correctness, or is this just something to get self-righteous about? Have Christians typically needed a government stamp of approval to enjoy the holiday? I just fail to see the oppression here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VF5150 View Post
    Ehh, just like the old christmas season vs. holiday season junk....I say just call it the commercial season. Happy "religious" observation of your choice to mark the shortest day of the year.
    Actually, the shortest day of the year is December 21st - the Winter Solstice
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    The governor defended his decision by arguing that it is in keeping with the state’s founding in 1636 by religious dissident Roger Williams as a haven for tolerance – where government and religion were kept separate.
    if the state is a 'haven for tolerence' call it a Christmas tree and let everyone who doesn't celebrate Christmas 'tolerate' it for once!...Bloody left wingers don't see both sides of the problem.
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    Ah, who cares , I'm over it. You have to be a pretty shitty, defective person to be offended by a Christmas tree, but these people exist.

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    I'm all for religious tolerance but part of that means that people tolerate mine too. So that thing that looks like a Christmas tree should be called a Christmas tree. I'm fine with it being the "holiday season" but the tree is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pal1800 View Post
    Ah, who cares , I'm over it. You have to be a pretty shitty, defective person to be offended by a Christmas tree, but these people exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    I'm all for religious tolerance but part of that means that people tolerate mine too. So that thing that looks like a Christmas tree should be called a Christmas tree. I'm fine with it being the "holiday season" but the tree is what it is.
    I think the word 'tolerence' has actually lost its meaning today. Whenever I hear it it is within the context of someone making an allowence so as not to offend a Muslim (usually a Christain or a western government), NEVER the other way around. My understanding of the word is that it cuts both ways...
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    Ok, with that logic, let's start calling a Menorah a "holiday candelabra" and Ramadan "the holiday fasting day" as well.

    Fucking retarded.

    Edit: And oh, that picture of the muslim guy. Fuck those guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommywho5150 View Post
    I think the word 'tolerence' has actually lost its meaning today. Whenever I hear it it is within the context of someone making an allowence so as not to offend a Muslim (usually a Christain or a western government), NEVER the other way around. My understanding of the word is that it cuts both ways...
    it should and does among most reasonable people. Sadly it's the unreasonable ones make it to the papers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Ok, with that logic, let's start calling a Menorah a "holiday candelabra" and Ramadan "the holiday fasting day" as well.

    Fucking retarded.


    Edit: And oh, that picture of the muslim guy. Fuck those guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    Sadly it's the unreasonable ones make it to the papers.
    Bingo. These kinds of stories tend to undermine the thousands of perfectly rational, reasonable decisions and compromises most people make each day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burning Tires View Post
    Has anyone really felt stifled and unable to enjoy Christmas because of lawmakers and political correctness, or is this just something to get self-righteous about?
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