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    Syracuse associate men's basketball coach Bernie Fine had been fired amid child molestation allegations

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    Is the taped conversation by the third accuser with Bernie's ex-wife for real ? ?
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    Syracuse associate men's basketball coach Bernie Fine had been fired amid child molestation allegations

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...ons/51444458/1

    Is the taped conversation by the third accuser with Bernie's ex-wife for real ? ?
    Sorry, that was Bernie's wife, she's not an ex.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/29/sp...-off.html?_r=1

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    I saw this on ESPN. Even the wife was banging the kid. I believe he was of age then though.
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    How many other sports coach are doing this in America? I bet plenty.
    I'm not a violent kind of guy, but if any of them would try anything like this with my son, the coach's family can start planning for his funeral immediately.
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    Bernie Madoff, Bernie from "Weekend At Bernie's" and now THIS guy.

    I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, "watch out for dudes named Bernie".
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    I dunno - still have Bernie Carbo, Bernie Williams and Bernie Brewer...

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    Fourth Accuser in Sex Abuse Case Involving Ex-Syracuse Assistant Fine

    SYRACUSE, N.Y. – A molestation victims' advocate said Tuesday night that "there is a fourth victim" of former Syracuse assistant basketball coach Bernie Fine whose family has been in contact with the District Attorney's office and police.

    The advocate, Rev. Robert Hoatson, said the family of the unidentified man contacted him last week shortly after he appeared in Syracuse and had a press conference about the Fine case, the New York Post reported.

    "I was told that there was another victim, a guy who was abused as a teen," said Hoatson, a Catholic priest who runs the advocacy group Road to Recovery. "He was a young teen when it started."

    Hoatson said he has not spoken to the alleged victim -- who is now a grown man -- and did not know other details of the case, including when or how he first came in contact with Fine. Hoatson had, however, spoken with the man's family four or five times since they made contact.

    Hoatson also blasted Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim, who initially vehemently backed Fine when the first alleged victims went public last week.

    "I think Boeheim should be resigned or fired," said Hoatson.



    Earlier, Syracuse University chancellor Nancy Cantor gave Boeheim a vote of confidence amid the investigation into Fine before Boeheim told reporters he did not fear for his job.

    "I've never worried about my job status in 36 years," Boeheim said after No. 4 Syracuse's 84-48 win over Eastern Michigan on Tuesday night, where he received a standing ovation as he walked onto the court that bears his name.

    Fine had served for 35 years alongside Boeheim -- the longest tenure for an assistant in NCAA Division I -- and Boeheim had been staunch in his support of his colleague, accusing two of the alleged victims of lying and trying to extort money.

    But after Fine, 65, was fired Sunday night, Boeheim released a statement saying he regretted his previous "insensitive" comments and supported the university's decision.

    On Tuesday he moved to further explain his initial reaction to the allegations against Fine.

    "I supported a friend," Boeheim said. "I'm proud that I did. I think if you know somebody and you work with somebody for 36 years and know them for 48 years, I think you owe a debt of allegiance and gratitude for what he did for the program. That's what my reaction was."

    He added, "What people do outside the program, I have very little if any control over adults."

    Earlier Tuesday, Cantor told reporters, "Coach Boeheim is our coach; he's getting the team ready [Tuesday night]. We're very pleased with what he said Sunday night, and we stand by it."

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    Former Syracuse coach Bernie Fine will face a second investigation stemming from his alleged sexual abuse of boys. Police in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, said on Monday they will investigate Fine, who was fired from his job as an assistant men’s basketball coach, once they receive relevant information from their counterparts in Syracuse. One of his alleged victims filed an affidavit with Syracuse police, Pittsburgh police said, accusing Fine of molesting him in a Pittsburgh hotel room.

    Fine already faced an investigation in Syracuse, where the U.S. attorney’s office and the U.S. Secret Service are taking the lead, according to a Monday statement from Syracuse police. The Secret Service is providing expertise related to electronic communications gathered in the investigation, said John Duncan, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office in New York’s northern district. File cabinets were among the items taken from Fine’s home after authorities executed a search warrant there last week. Duncan declined to discuss what authorities were looking for.

    Also Monday, the nephew of Fine’s wife said she will make a statement Tuesday challenging the implications of a tape recording of a 2002 telephone conversation with one of her husband’s accusers that appears to show she knew of the alleged sexual abuse. “She’ll even say that’s her voice,” nephew Matt Govendo said, but that the sections of the tape — excerpts of which were made public Sunday by the Syracuse-based Post-Standard newspaper and ESPN — “are all tampered with.” The university fired Fine from his job Sunday night, hours after the Post-Standard and ESPN reported on the phone conversation, which they said former Syracuse ball boy Bobby Davis had recorded between him and the coach’s wife.

    In the tape, a woman that ESPN, citing experts, identified as Laurie Fine said she knew “everything that went on” with her husband, adding that “he thinks he’s above the law.” “Bernie has issues … and you trusted somebody you shouldn’t,” the woman said, speaking to Davis. The woman appears to acknowledge an inappropriate sexual relationship between Davis and Bernie Fine, saying, “It’s just wrong and you were a kid.” She also said that her husband should “find (himself) a gay boy, get your rocks off.” Govendo told CNN on Monday that Davis had threatened his aunt with the release of 200 minutes of audio recordings because the Fines had cut off support to him “after 15 years of leaching off them, eating their food, living there.”

    CNN could not locate Davis for comment Monday and it did not appear that he had an attorney. Multiple telephone messages left with Davis’ stepbrother Mike Lang, who also has accused Bernie Fine of abuse, were not returned Monday. In a statement announcing Fine’s termination on Sunday, university officials said they were “shaken” by the allegations. Chancellor Nancy Cantor said the school did not know of the recording during a 2005 investigation of Davis’ accusations. “No other witnesses came forward during the university investigation (in 2005), and those who felt they knew Bernie best could not imagine what has unfolded,” she said.

    Fine had been placed on administrative leave earlier this month, after Davis and Lang accused him of molesting them. In announcing Fine’s leave earlier this month, the school noted it had conducted its own investigation in 2005 and was “unable to find any corroboration of the allegations.” Syracuse men’s basketball head coach Jim Boeheim said Sunday that he believed “the university took the appropriate step” in firing Fine, his assistant coach the past 35 years. “The allegations that have come forth today are disturbing and deeply troubling. I am personally very shocked because I have never witnessed any of the activities that have been alleged,” said Boeheim, who days earlier said Fine had his “full support.” “I deeply regret any statements I made that might have inhibited that from occurring or been insensitive to victims of abuse.”

    According to a transcript of the conversation on the Post-Standard’s website, Davis and Laurie Fine talked about how Bernie Fine was angry at Davis for not repaying him $4,000. Davis said that the coach forced him to “grab him” after offering the loan, including at one point saying, “If you want this money, you’ll stay right here.” Laurie Fine appears to side with Davis, and against her husband, saying: “Money isn’t the issue here. He lured you with the money. See, he knew full well what he was doing.”

    Davis provided the recording to the Post-Standard soon after it was recorded, but the newspaper then declined to report on it because it couldn’t find “witnesses, enough corroborating evidence or a second accuser.” Laurie Fine, at the time suggested to the Post-Standard that Davis had taped her on multiple occasions and edited the recordings to make them appear more inflammatory. Repeated calls by CNN to Laurie Fine were unanswered Sunday, and no one answered repeated knocks on the door of her house. Govendo said no one is taking the allegations lightly, but that the the family does not believe them. He says they feel betrayed by Davis and Lang.

    Bernie Fine’s attorneys, Donald Martin and Karl Sleight, released a statement Sunday — hours before their client’s firing was announced — declining to comment on the reports. “Any comment from (Fine) would only invite and perpetuate ancient and suspect claims,” the lawyers said. “Mr. Fine remains hopeful of a credible and expeditious review of the relevant issues by law enforcement authorities.” The embattled coach appeared to be getting some support as evidenced by a sign outside his home that read: “We believe in your innocence Bernie. We love you!”

    Davis, a former Syracuse ball boy who is now 39, told ESPN earlier this month that Fine molested him “hundreds of times” over the course of 16 years, starting from when he was in the fifth or sixth grade. He told university officials six years ago that he informed Syracuse police that he had been “subjected to inappropriate contact by an associate men’s basketball coach” during the 1980s and 1990s, according to an earlier statement from university spokesman Kevin C. Quinn. Police had told Davis years ago that they would not pursue the case because the statute of limitations had expired, Quinn said in a statement.

    On Sunday, another man — Zachary Tomaselli, now 23 — told CNN that he also was abused by Fine while in a hotel room in Pittsburgh, where he’d gone to watch a Syracuse game. That alleged incident prompted Pittsburgh police to launch the second investigation. The abuse happened about a decade ago, when he traveled by himself a few months after he’d met Fine, Tomaselli said. He claimed that the coach “put his hand down my shorts,” adding Fine allegedly did so “four or five times.” On Monday, Tomaselli spoke to CNN again about the alleged abuse. “I did jerk away a little bit initially, but he (Fine) just said, ‘It’s OK, it’s OK,’” Tomaselli said.
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    Tomaselli himself is facing gross sexual assault charges related to a 2009 incident, according to information from the Maine State Bureau of Investigation. His father, Fred Tomaselli, claimed that while he and his son had sat in “nose-bleed” seats during Syracuse games, they’d never met Fine. Moreover, he said the boy never stayed overnight in a hotel room with Fine, nor had he ever been brought to Pittsburgh or gone to a game there. The father said that Zachary Tomaselli’s allegation is completely “100% false,” suggesting that his son needed help and calling him a “master manipulator.” The father and son are estranged.

    Lang, 45, who also accused Fine of sexual abuse, told ESPN earlier this month that Fine molested him “15 to 20 times,” and confirmed the abuse to CNN in a phone interview Sunday. While he said that he often found himself “pushing (Fine’s) hand away,” Lang said that his stepbrother suffered much more than he did. He described Bernie Fine as “like a father figure” to both him and Bobby Davis, noting the two then-teenagers attended Bernie’s wedding to Laurie 26 years ago. Lang said his “hands started shaking” when he heard the apparent voice of Laurie Fine — as broadcast this weekend on ESPN — talking to his stepbrother about the alleged abuse.

    Thirty minutes after the story broke earlier this fall about former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky, who is accused of sexually abusing boys over a span of 14 years, Bobby Davis texted his stepbrother. Lang said the text read: “‘This is what happened to me.’” Lang’s accusation, made after the Sandusky scandal broke, kick-started the reopened police investigation November 17. Onondaga County District Attorney William Fitzpatrick has harshly criticized Syracuse Police Chief Frank Fowler and Deputy Chief Sean Broton over the handling of a 2002 probe of Fine that began with Davis’ allegation.

    Fitzpatrick filed subpoenas for records in the 2002 and current investigations that he said he should readily have access to. Syracuse police said Monday they will turn over the information requested by the Onondaga County district attorney’s office on Tuesday, but the records are quite limited, said Sgt. Tom Connellan. “There was no investigation in 2002,” he said. According to Connellan, Davis called Syracuse police from Utah, claiming he had been abused by Bernie Fine and asking whether Fine could be prosecuted. Davis was told the statue of limitations had passed and nothing else could be done unless he knew of any ongoing or more recent allegations, as is common practice, Connellan said.

    Davis never took police up on their offer to meet in person and did not follow up on his initial call, said Connellan. He also said police were not aware of the conversation allegedly recorded between Davis and the coach’s wife until it was released by the media. Davis’ call to police was allegedly made before that recorded conversation took place. “Could we have done more? We can talk about that,” said Connellan. A 1967 graduate of Syracuse, where he’d been a student manager for the basketball team, Fine rejoined the program nine years later as an assistant coach under Boeheim.

    Prior to his dismissal, he’d been with the Orange ever since — the longest such streak for an assistant coach in Division I basketball, the school said. According to his official biography, which was taken down from Syracuse’s website on Sunday night, Fine “has been a tremendous advocate for SU alumni who want to play professional basketball” and “an active member of the Syracuse community.” Besides his wife, Laurie, he has a son and two daughters, the profile stated.
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    No State Charges for Syracuse Coach Bernie Fine on Sex Abuse Allegations

    A New York prosecutor says he cannot bring charges against a former Syracuse University assistant basketball coach but find that two men who accused him of sexual abuse are credible.

    A federal probe is ongoing into the accusations against fired coach Bernie Fine, but Onondaga County District Attorney William Fitzpatrick says he won't pursue a state case.

    Three men have accused Fine of molesting them when they were boys.

    Hall of Fame Coach Jim Boeheim ,who is still being questioned about what he might know related to the claims, at first defended his long-time assistant and said the accusations were about making money. Victims' advocates called for him to resign; he later apologized to the accusers.

    Accusations from two former ballboys happened too long ago to be prosecuted.

    Fine has denied the abuse allegations. He was fired Nov. 27.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9...d-a-phone-call


    Bernie Fine's Wife Had An Affair With The Man Accusing Him Of Child Molestation

    One of the strangest twists about the current scandal rocking the Syracuse basketball program involves Bernie Fine's wife and his accuser.

    Apparently, Fine's accuser, Bobby Davis, and Fine's wife, also had an affair.

    Davis said when he was eighteen, he and Fine's wife had a sexual affair. And something Laurie says in the recorded phone conversation also alludes to it:

    L. FINE: The issue at hand is he had no business doing what he did with you.

    DAVIS: In retrospect, I, I....

    L. FINE: You know what, and neither did I, because I really helped screw you up a little more, too...

    This brings this scandal to another level.

    The latest bombshell out of Syracuse is that accused child molester Bernie Fine's wife, Laurie, slept with numerous Syracuse basketball players over the years, according to a shocking new report.

    Deadspin reported on Wednesday night that Laurie Fine slept with "players on many of Jim Boeheim's squads" and that there is allegedly a sex tape of Fine and a former Syracuse basketball player being shopped on the market. It says that the behavior began as early as the 1980s.

    An additional unnamed source told Deadspin that "it was a rite of passage for some to be with Bernie's wife."

    The information hasn't been corroborated by another major news organization yet, but Laurie Fine might have already admitted to sleeping with someone other than her husband in the Syracuse basketball organization.

    One of Bernie Fine's accusers, Bobby Davis, told ESPN that he had a sexual relationship with Laurie Fine when he was 18 years old. Davis claims that Laurie initiated the sexual contact and that he even told her husband about the rendezvous.

    "I did tell Bernie," Davis said when asked if the former assistant coach knew of his sexual relationship with his spouse. "This is as I got older not like when I was a kid. I thought he was going to kill me, but I just had to tell him. I told him what was going on between me and Laurie. It didn't faze him one bit, honestly."

    Laurie appeared to admit to the encounter when she told Fine that she probably also contributed to messing him up, but one of her nephews claims that the tape recordings have been tampered with and that she will contest their veracity.
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    A man who accused former Syracuse University assistant basketball coach Bernie Fine of sexually molesting him as a child said Friday that it was all a lie.


    Man says his allegations about Bernie Fine sex abuse were lies

    New York (CNN) -- A man who accused a Syracuse University assistant basketball coach of sexually molesting him as a child said Friday that it was all a lie.

    "I fabricated everything about Bernie Fine," Zachary Tomaselli, 23, told CNN from his home in Lewiston, Maine. He said he never met Fine.

    "Basically, I'm a sociopath. I take a lot of pride in lying," he said.

    Tomaselli had told authorities that he and Fine watched pornography together in 2002 before Fine fondled him in a hotel room in Pittsburgh, where he'd gone to watch a Syracuse basketball game when he was 13 years-old.

    Tomaselli was among several who accused Fine of molesting them, leading to Fine's being fired in November.

    Syracuse ball boys Mike Lang and his stepbrother, Bobby Davis, also stepped forward to accuse the coach of molesting them over several years.

    Prosecutors said in December that despite credible allegations from Davis and Lang, they could not bring charges against Fine because the statute of limitations had expired.

    When the allegations first surfaced, Fine -- married with a son and two daughters -- called them "patently false." He has not commented since.

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