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    so she sends out a tweet to her friends joking about the governor..big deal, she's a kid

    I don't know what is crazier! The Governor's office tracks this stuff online and feels it necessary to report this to the kids school or that the school thought it was appropriate to violate her right to free speech by demanding an apology

    Big Brother is watching high school government students I guess, and high school government students are being taught a terrifying lesson

    Teen tweeter won't apologize to Kan. gov.

    (AP) KANSAS CITY, Missouri - A U.S. teenager who wrote a disparaging tweet about Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback said Sunday that she is rejecting her high school principal's demand for a written apology.
    Emma Sullivan, 18, said she isn't sorry and doesn't think such a letter would be sincere.

    The Shawnee Mission East senior was taking part in a Youth in Government program last week when she sent out a tweet from the back of a crowd of students listening to Brownback's greeting. From her cellphone, she thumbed: "Just made mean comments at gov. brownback and told him he sucked, in person (hash)heblowsalot." She actually made no such comment and said she was "just joking with friends." But Brownback's office, which monitors social media for postings containing the governor's name, saw Sullivan's post and contacted the Youth in Government program.

    Sullivan received a scolding at school and was ordered to send Brownback an apology letter. She said Prinicipal Karl R. Krawitz even suggested talking points for the letter she was supposed to turn in Monday.

    The situation exploded after Sullivan's older sister contacted the media. Since then, Sullivan's following on Twitter has grown to about 3,000 people, up from about 65 before the tweet. She said she thinks the tweet has helped "open up dialogue" about free speech in social media.. "I would do it again," she said.

    Sullivan has received emails from attorneys but is waiting to see what happens when she refuses to hand in a letter. Krawitz, her principal, told The Kansas City Star previously that the situation is a "private issue, not a public matter" but didn't return a phone message from The Associated Press at his home Sunday. She hasn't heard from Brownback or his staff. She said she wouldn't mind sitting down and talking to the governor.

    Sullivan said she disagrees with Brownback politically, particularly his decision to veto the Kansas Arts Commission's entire budget, making Kansas the only state in the nation to eliminate arts funding. Brownback has argued arts programs can flourish with private dollars and that state funds should go to core government functions, such as education and social services. "I think it would be interesting to have a dialogue with him," she said. "I don't know if he would do it or not though. And I don't know that he would listen to what I have to say."

    Sherriene Jones-Sontag, the governor's spokeswoman, told The Star previously that Sullivan's message wasn't respectful and that it takes mutual respect to "really have a constructive dialogue." Brownback's office didn't return calls or emails Sunday from the AP.

    Sullivan's mother, Julie, said she isn't angry with her daughter, even though she thinks she "could have chosen different words.She wasn't speaking to the 3,000 followers she has now," Julie Sullivan said. "She was talking to 65 friends. And also it's the speech they use today. It's more attention grabbing. I raised my kids to be independent, to be strong, to be free thinkers. If she wants to tweet her opinion about Gov. Brownback, I say for her to go for it and I stand totally behind her."

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    Attorneys have contacted her...of course they have. Fucking lawyers....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Attorneys have contacted her...of course they have. Fucking lawyers....
    In actuality, she probably has a very good case that her freedom of speech is being violated. We are becoming more and more of a police state when a kid cannot joke around with 65 of her friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy Hill View Post
    Sherriene Jones-Sontag, the governor's spokeswoman, told The Star previously that Sullivan's message wasn't respectful and that it takes mutual respect to "really have a constructive dialogue." Brownback's office didn't return calls or emails Sunday from the AP.
    LOL. Come on, is this for real?

    She's cute too, for the record.
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    School districts actually can restrict speech. This student would have been punished for saying this to a teacher. Students can't print graphically sexual material in the school newspaper, etc.

    Essentially, the Supreme Court has said that student speech can be restricted by schools if it is disruptive and interferes with legitimate school business or violates school rules.

    This is an interesting case because A) it wasn't at school, B) no one found out about it until the governor's office said something, so C) it didn't cause an uproar until after and it was the governor's office that caused the uproar.

    Anyway, it's a moot point now because the governor has apologized to the girl:

    “My staff over-reacted to this tweet, and for that I apologize...

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    Quote Originally Posted by loveevhsince79 View Post
    In actuality, she probably has a very good case that her freedom of speech is being violated. We are becoming more and more of a police state when a kid cannot joke around with 65 of her friends.
    exactly 65 of her teenage friends...for goodness sake doesn't that Governors office have more important work to do than the suppress the opinion of a high schooler?



    ironically, only 65 people saw the tweet but the governors staff has made this thing go national.....priceless!

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    I wish I lived in a place where govt had solved every important issue and had now began working on silly things like the tweets of teenage girls. Kansas must be the most efficient govt operation on the globe.

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    This doesn't shock me. Brownback used to go after Howard Stern too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loveevhsince79 View Post
    In actuality, she probably has a very good case that her freedom of speech is being violated. We are becoming more and more of a police state when a kid cannot joke around with 65 of her friends.
    Yes, but they are not contacting her based upon a sense of duty in protecting free speech.

    They want money from the state, pure and simple, that you and I end up paying for in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Attorneys have contacted her...of course they have. Fucking lawyers....
    So what. I am tired of dickhead educators thinking thay are some sort of ultimate authority. Demanding an apology? Screw that. If he said anything but good morning to her on that monday she should absolutely own that bastard

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    I am not defending the school, they are idiots, but should our tax dollars end up going to the girls family and a percentage to the attorneys because one person is a fucking dumb ass?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Yes, but they are not contacting her based upon a sense of duty in protecting free speech.

    They want money from the state, pure and simple, that you and I end up paying for in the end.
    I don't think the state was the target. The principal was

 

 

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