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    Skinning, gutting, and cutting up catfish is not easy or pleasant work. No one knows this better than Randy Rhodes, president of Harvest Select, which has a processing plant in impoverished Uniontown, Ala. For years, Rhodes has had trouble finding Americans willing to grab a knife and stand 10 or more hours a day in a cold, wet room for minimum wage and skimpy benefits.

    Most of his employees are Guatemalan. Or they were, until Alabama enacted an immigration law in September that requires police to question people they suspect might be in the U.S. illegally and punish businesses that hire them. The law, known as HB56, is intended to scare off undocumented workers, and in that regard it’s been a success. It’s also driven away legal immigrants who feared being harassed.

    Rhodes arrived at work on Sept. 29, the day the law went into effect, to discover many of his employees missing. Panicked, he drove an hour and a half north to Tuscaloosa, where many of the immigrants who worked for him lived. Rhodes, who doesn’t speak Spanish, struggled to get across how much he needed them. He urged his workers to come back. Only a handful did. “We couldn’t explain to them that some of the things they were scared of weren’t going to happen,” Rhodes says. “I wanted them to see that I was their friend, and that we were trying to do the right thing.”

    His ex-employees joined an exodus of thousands of immigrant field hands, hotel housekeepers, dishwashers, chicken plant employees, and construction workers who have fled Alabama for other states. Like Rhodes, many employers who lost workers followed federal requirements—some even used the E-Verify system—and only found out their workers were illegal when they disappeared.

    In their wake are thousands of vacant positions and hundreds of angry business owners staring at unpicked tomatoes, uncleaned fish, and unmade beds. “Somebody has to figure this out. The immigrants aren’t coming back to Alabama—they’re gone,” Rhodes says. “I have 158 jobs, and I need to give them to somebody.”

    There’s no shortage of people he could give those jobs to. In Alabama, some 211,000 people are out of work. In rural Perry County, where Harvest Select is located, the unemployment rate is 18.2 percent, twice the national average. One of the big selling points of the immigration law was that it would free up jobs that Republican Governor Robert Bentley said immigrants had stolen from recession-battered Americans. Yet native Alabamians have not come running to fill these newly liberated positions. Many employers think the law is ludicrous and fought to stop it. Immigrants aren’t stealing anything from anyone, they say. Businesses turned to foreign labor only because they couldn’t find enough Americans to take the work they were offering.

    At a moment when the country is relentless focused on unemployment, there are still jobs that often go unfilled. These are difficult, dirty, exhausting jobs that, for previous generations, were the first rickety step on the ladder to prosperity. They still are—just not for Americans.

    For decades many of Alabama’s industries have benefited from a compliant foreign workforce and a state government that largely looked the other way on wages, working conditions, and immigration status. With so many foreign workers now effectively banished from the work pool and jobs sitting empty, businesses must contend with American workers who have higher expectations for themselves and their employers—even in a terrible economy where work is hard to find. “I don’t consider this a labor shortage,” says Tom Surtees, Alabama’s director of industrial relations, himself the possessor of a job few would want: calming business owners who have seen their employees vanish. “We’re transitioning from a business model. Whether an employer in agriculture used migrant workers, or whether it’s another industry that used illegal immigrants, they had a business model and that business model is going to have to change.”

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    Randy Rhodes is alive and skinng catfish? Seems like a waste of talent if you ask me
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    not sure I see an answer to the question "Why Americans Won't Do Dirty Jobs" - more like a new question - "Why won't Americans do dirty jobs?"

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    The real question seems to be... Why don't people want to work for bread crumbs?

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    This kind of story is not news to me.....Americans in general are not willing to do the "dirty jobs".....and by that I mean the lower paying positions that require hard work, even if it can, and often does, result in using these jobs as a springboard to higher paying positions in the same industry.....If one were to walk through any one of my kitchens I have managed over the last 15 years, one would not see a lot of white American faces......and it's not because the immigrants are hogging them up and working for less pay......it's simply that Americans (white people) are not even applying for the jobs.....and on the rare occasion that I have hired an American (white guy).....they don't last very long, either quitting for whatever reason, or I have had to fire them for being worthless....I have worked in a few kitchens over the years that have half jokingly had a "No White Guys" policy.....in my experience, it has been simply a fact that White America is no longer willing to bust their ass to move up in the world.....they want it handed to them and take for granted what the immigrants do not.....

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    Mike Rowe does dirty jobs and he is an American. In fact, it's ironic that he actually host a show on the discovery channel called, " Dirty Jobs". That's fucking strange, huh.

    But still, I don't get this thread!

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    Am I the only one that thinks Randy's greedy ass would benefit from paying just a couple dollars an hour more and offering benefits? Or does mentioning such an idea make me a lazy American?

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    I'll tell you why, because most people think this is beneath them. Even in Alabama. And thats a stretch.

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    Americans willing to grab a knife and stand 10 or more hours a day in a cold, wet room for minimum wage and skimpy benefits.

    Pretty self explanatory as to why they won't. I personally think you should take what you can until something better arises. I also think some better pay and benefits would help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuddman5150 View Post
    I'll tell you why, because most people think this is beneath them. Even in Alabama. And thats a stretch.
    Yep! Couldn't agree more!


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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    Americans willing to grab a knife and stand 10 or more hours a day in a cold, wet room for minimum wage and skimpy benefits.

    Pretty self explanatory as to why they won't. I personally think you should take what you can until something better arises. I also think some better pay and benefits would help.
    This too!! Not asking to much!!

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    Try cleaning up dog and cat shit in a veterinary clinic sometime. Oh yeah and holding dogs and cats that want to bite and scratch the hell out of you and put you in the hospital. I did it for 2.50 and hour from 73-81 and I would not have done anything any different in my life.
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    Answer:

    Because the American man has become a lazy, entitled, pussified version of his former self.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
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    Because the American man has become a lazy, entitled, pussified version of his former self.
    From an SNL skit MANY years ago after Japans PM (I think) stated that americans are fat & lazy:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
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    Because the American man has become a lazy, entitled, pussified version of his former self.
    Damn lazy Americans who don't want to work for peanuts under shitty conditions!! How dare we expect worker's rights and a livable wage, assholes!!

 

 

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