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    Default So I've always wanted to write Comic books (you guys wanna read some of my stuff?)

    yup.

    I'm a total comic book-super hero nerd.

    Have been my whole life. I clearly remember going with my grandfather to get comic books at garage sales when I was like 3 or 4.

    I've been thinking of writing some stories and trying to get into the business for awhile. One of my pet projects is to take a very obscure group of super hero's that is owned by Archie Comics and reinvent them and make them a viable super hero franchise.

    I figure you guys are probably not comic book fans but I'll post some of what I have worked on if you are interested. I'm kind of curious how this will be percieved by the average person and not the average comic book nerd.

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    I'm a huge comic book nerd. Is it just written or do you draw along with the story?
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    This is cool. Since the news of the DC reboot happened, I've been catching up on all the goings on in the Batman books via trade paper backs, and also got two big volumes of The Doom Patrols run from the 60's. I was thinking about starting a comic book thread, but didn't think it would garner much interest.


    Go for it Bone. I think I know what characters you're talking about, since I just got done recently going through the DC Comics time line, and there were quite a few mentions of the Archie Comics heroes due to various acquisitions over the years. (I'll post a link to that time line later... it's very interesting)

    I'm interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheresOnlyOneWay View Post
    I'm a huge comic book nerd. Is it just written or do you draw along with the story?
    I just write them. I have tons of ideas but never really sat down and wrote them out. The idea I'm going to put on here is using the old "Red Circle" cast of characters that archie comics owns. They were around in the 40's and then again in the 60's and 80's. DC comics has tried to relaunch them twice and both times they didn't do so great.

    they are classic characters. The point of this was to completely reboot the universe they live in so someone could come in and know almost nothing about the characters and know what is going on. When I say "reboot" I don't mean it in the usual comic book sense. Time is not starting over, it's just a continuation of a world that has had to adjust to not having the hero's they were used to anymore. There will still be the original versions of the hero's we just won't see them for awhile. The first couple of things I'm gonna post are part of the back story, once they are done I'll post the actual breakdowns of the first story arc. I wrote this as a presentation I would present to an editor (after reading a few of alan moor's presentations), I'm strictly trying to lay groundwork with this. Being purposfully vague about somethings so they will actually unfold to the readers as the story goes on.

    anyway here goes part 1, let me know what you think. REmember this is just initial information and the actual reader wouldn't even see this, it's like a refrence to the past and some ideas I have:

    World:

    The earth the red circle characters inhabit has a similar timeline to how the characters were depicted in the comics on “our” earth. A team of hero’s appeared in the 1940’s and that’s where the first generation of Crusaders came together. Mostly what I would like to do is take characters that I feel are dated in terms of concept and place them on this team along with The Shield. This does not really mean that newer updated versions of these hero’s won’t appear later in the series but for now I’d like to place them here as sort of a “place holder”. Another wave of hero’s came along later (to avoid dating these characters I’d like to be a bit ambiguous as to when exactly they came along, I don’t want to say they showed up in the 1960’s or the 1980’s but just say they came along a bit later). This 2nd wave of characters experienced something a bit different that will help define this universe from some of the others out there. They were almost instant celebrities along the lines of Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant are on “our world”. The press was fanatical about everything the hero’s did. The youngest hero who was taken under the wing of the most well respected member of the team (the shield) is Blackjack, this will be important to remember later. Blackjack is treated like a heart throb and actually lets his true identity be known so he can use his image to further his financial situation by appearing in movies and such. The rest of the Crusaders accept their celebrity status but are a bit uncomfortable with it, they do allow their images to be used by the government to advertise things the government feels is good for people. For instance we might show an add with the Shield telling kids to get outside and exercise or something along those lines. The team in general does not like what Blackjack is doing but the Shield is fine with it and since he is the most respected member of the active roster the rest go along with it.

    The team does have its detractors, notably a government agent only referred to as Agent Swift is a huge opponent to the team and how they are portrayed to the public. He is particularly vocal about how Blackjack is “exploiting the public” by using his role as a “super hero to further his financial situation”. The relationship with Swift and the Crusaders is very hostile (this will be important later).

    Eventually we lead into something that I am going to refer to now as “the event”. The event happened about 10 years ago. All the villains got together and took over a nuclear facility in the United States and the Crusaders (minus Blackjack who was off continent filming a movie) attempted to stop the villains from doing anything evil. During the confrontation an epic flash of white light appeared and all of the hero’s and villains disappeared. Vanished. Nothing is known by the citizens of earth what happened to them (I do have plans to explain what exactly happened but I’m not sure how long into our story of the current crusaders we will go before I get into this). The public immediately turned on Blackjack for not being there but in reality he could have done nothing to prevent what happened. He is immediately black balled by almost everyone. He does try to get a new team of Crusaders together (a group of hero’s who were not crusaders and were not at the event) but these hero’s are mostly considered second stringers and are belittled by the world. They eventually disband and go into hiding, without any real villains around anymore there is really nothing for them to do.


    let me know if that makes sense, if you want me to expand on anything or tell me I'm a complete hack. I have more that I'll post later.

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    Its actually a cool idea BBone ... Ill check out your stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 47 View Post
    This is cool. Since the news of the DC reboot happened, I've been catching up on all the goings on in the Batman books via trade paper backs, and also got two big volumes of The Doom Patrols run from the 60's. I was thinking about starting a comic book thread, but didn't think it would garner much interest.


    Go for it Bone. I think I know what characters you're talking about, since I just got done recently going through the DC Comics time line, and there were quite a few mentions of the Archie Comics heroes due to various acquisitions over the years. (I'll post a link to that time line later... it's very interesting)

    I'm interested.
    DC had 2 runs with these characters. the first one was totally in it's own continuity and was released under the IMpact! line of characters. It was geared more towards kids and was supposed to be marketed in super markets and such so that a kid could pick it up. they wre fun stories but there were editorial slip ups and the whole thing just fizzled out.

    The second one was a couple of years ago where they introduced some of the characters to the DC universe. For the most part they were fun and well done comics but since DC only shared the liscense with archie and did not own the characters they couldn't do certain things so again they fizzled out.

    Archie actually just announced that they are gonna start them up again via digital downloads.

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    http://www.supermanartists.comics.or...CHISTORY-1.htm

    This is exhausting, but because I have a comic book geek gene, I spent about three hours going through the entire thing the other night.

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    a bit more:

    THE SHIELD PROJECT:

    The United States government gets an “itchy trigger finger” without the crusaders around. The Shield was one of the most highly respected hero’s on the face of the planet so now that he is gone they face a reality where their enemies don’t have to worry about the crusaders and they feel threatened. They begin to try to reinvent the formula that originally gave the shield his powers. They had obtained a DNA sample from him years prior and have been studying it and now they are ready. They begin with an initial group of 10 teen age boys. 3 or 4 of the group showed some initial response to the formula while others showed nothing. After numerous tests with different sets of children (where they got the same results, some showed some powers but most didn’t and none were at the power levels they expected). The study was expanded to 100 then to 1000 then when they were not getting the results they wanted they decided to have the formula injected into children in specific areas via immunization shots. What they did not realize at the time was that most of the subjects they administered the medication to were pre adolescence and once they hit puberty the reactions really begin to kick in. The formula has varied and totally unpredictable effects on the person it was given to. Some develop powers some don’t. Some of the test subjects minds are affected some are not. So basically what we have here is a planet full of ticking time bombs. Children that could wake up one day and be incredibly powerful, how would the kids handle this new power? Some of them might have their minds altered by the formula so they might be driven crazy and even if they are not can a teenage boy (or girl) really use their new powers responsibly? This is part of the catalyst that will bring the new group of crusaders together.

    This also lends itself to a never ending supply of super powered individuals. It could be treated like the mutants in the marvel universe where some of them are outcasts due to their powers etc. We could also have a contest where fans create their own hero’s or villains and have them appear like they did at DC in the “Dial H for HERO” stories in the 70’s.

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    I've got a lot of the original Impact books from that run. It was called The Crucible at that time. I'm gonna pull them out when I get home tonight. It's not complete, but should be fun to revisit.


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    I've got a lot of the original Impact books from that run. It was called The Crucible at that time. I'm gonna pull them out when I get home tonight. It's not complete, but should be fun to revisit.

    the crucible was supposed to change that entire line of hero's, they were supposed to come back and be totally different but it never happened. I read an interview with one of hte writers once nad he was really upset at how badly DC dropped the ball on an editorial level. I have a couple of issues of the old crucible, don't know where they are.

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    Sounds interesting! I'd love to have time to draw your thoughts out for you. You'd have to like George Perez-style art though. As you can see my art was heavily influenced by his growing up. Drawing for comics was a dream of mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheresOnlyOneWay View Post
    Sounds interesting! I'd love to have time to draw your thoughts out for you. You'd have to like George Perez-style art though. As you can see my art was heavily influenced by his growing up. Drawing for comics was a dream of mine.

    perez is my all time favorite artist actually. I will buy a book he drew just to see his work. He's amazing.

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    Now you got me looking up other artists I enjoy, like John Byrne. Always loved his art, especially Wolverine and look what I ran across.

    I gots to get me one of these!!! It's full size!

    Designed by Alex Ross, sculpted by Mike Hill, standing close to 18" tall, and inspired by the definitive Wolverine art of John Byrne, the ferocious, pint-sized mutant has been captured like no other before!










    Apologies for the derail...
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    any comments on the back story?

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    I like it, especially the 'Dial H for HERO' idea, but I'd be careful about posting too much or you're going to see your ideas in print or on the big screen before you get to do anything with it if the wrong person sneaks through here.
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