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    Mayor Bloomberg today warned there will be widespread rioting on the streets if more jobs are not created.

    As it emerged the number of people applying for unemployment benefits in the U.S. jumped last week to the highest level in three months, the Mayor spoke out, insisting that if nothing is done Americans will start revolting.

    'We have a lot of kids graduating college, can't find jobs,' he said on his weekly radio show.

    'That's what happened in Cairo. That's what happened in Madrid. You don't want those kinds of riots here.'

    The comments came as President Barack Obama put pressure on Republicans to pass his jobs plan.
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    I remember about three months ago, somebody leaked info coming from the Obama camp about his reelection campaign strategy. He was going to unleash class and racial warfare on the masses. They said it was going to be ugly.

    Looks like it may be.
    Democratic campaign committee circulates petition urging people to 'stand with' the 'Occupy Wall Street' movement hoping to gain 100,000 supporters behind message to Republican house leadership.

    The Democratic Party moved a step closer to embracing the Occupy Wall Street movement as its own with the top campaign arm for House Democrats sending around a petition urging people to "stand with" the movement.

    In an email sent Monday morning, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Director Robby Mook appealed for signatures to an online petition in support of those who want "to let billionaires, big oil and big bankers know that we're not going to let the richest 1% force draconian economic policies and massive cuts to crucial programs on Main Street Americans."

    The DCCC is trying to gather 100,000 names on the petition to "send a message straight to Eric Cantor, Speaker Boehner, and the rest of reckless Republican leadership in Congress."

    The appeal comes after House Majority Leader Eric Cantor and other Republicans sharply criticized the protesters on Friday. At a Values Voter Summit in Washington, Cantor said he was "increasingly concerned about the growing mobs occupying Wall Street and the other cities across the country."

    He described them as "the pitting of Americans against Americans," and scolded those who would condone them.

    "Getting American back to work means fueling a culture of entrepreneurialism, a culture of competitiveness, a culture of inspiration and optimism," he said.

    At the same summit, businessman and GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain called the demonstrations "anti-capitalism" and "anti-free market." On CBS' "Face the Nation" on Sunday, Cain said it is "anti-American" to protest bankers. He said Wall Street didn't write the "failed economic policies."

    In response to Cantor, House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said Cantor is being selective in his criticism of popular movements.

    "I didn't hear him say anything when the Tea Party was out demonstrating, actually spitting on members of Congress right here in the Capitol, and he and his colleagues were putting signs in the windows encouraging them," she told ABC's "This Week."

    Pelosi said she backs the protesters in their message.

    "I support the message to the establishment, whether it's Wall Street or the political establishment and the rest, that change has to happen. We cannot continue in a way that does not -- that is not relevant to their lives. People are angry," she said.

    While the protesters have hit on everything from war to the current crop of Hollywood films, demonstrators primarily criticize the nation's big banks for burdening average Americans with loan debt, squeezing out borrowers, slapping customers with new fees and withholding trillions in capital. They say the richest 1 percent of the nation are hanging onto the wealth to the destruction of the other 99 percent of the nation.

    A document put out at the end of September attempts to sum up the initial grievances. The Declaration of the Occupation of New York City takes aim at corporations for using an "illegal foreclosure process" to take houses; taking "bailouts from taxpayers with impunity" while paying "exorbitant" executive bonuses; holding "students hostage" with education debt; influencing politicians with donations and about 20 other offenses.

    Indeed, the banks have in part have acted in response to the 2008 crisis and bailout, which required financial institutions to retain a higher amount of capital reserves. The agreement for federal aid was followed by a Wall Street reform bill supported by President Obama and named after two Democratic lawmakers, ex-Sen. Chris Dodd and Rep. Barney Frank, which capped swipe fees on debit cards and imposed regulations on lending, among other items. The law also ended the practice of the federal government bailing out banks.

    On NBC's "Meet the Press" Sunday, former White House chief of staff and current Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel defended Obama's handling of the banking crisis.

    "President Bush passed TARP, President Obama put the stress test in -- put and made sure that they raise private capital and passed a financial reform," Emanuel said. "Not all of that is perfect."

    Still, he said, Obama showed "leadership" whereas Europe, which is still in the throes of a potential economic meltdown, "took a pass."

    Obama said last week that he thinks the protesters are "giving voice to a more broad-based frustration about how our financial system works." White House Press Secretary Jay Carney added that the protests on the streets of New York are "an expression of democracy."

    As for the demonstrators, the Columbus Day holiday gave many additional free time to rally in Washington, D.C., and beyond. Protesters camped out in Freedom Plaza near the Treasury Department in Washington said they planned to stay longer than their permit allows, and would be willing to risk arrest.

    "We have until 2 p.m. today to remove our possessions. We do not intend to do so. We suspect that if the police want to remove us by force they will wait until evening. So we're throwing a dinner party, and 99% of the country is invited. Our permit is now the First Amendment to the United States Constitution," wrote David Swanson, a member of the Stop the Machine protest group.

    One Democratic congressman who tried to show some solidarity with the protesters in Atlanta was turned away. In a video posted online, Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., could be seen attempting to address an Occupy Atlanta crowd. But through a confusing system of parliamentary procedures, the group's leader determined there was not enough "consensus" among the group to proceed, and Lewis ended up leaving. He later said he felt no slight by the refusal to speak.

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    Democrats...maybe you folks should have started your party in Russia.
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    All these protestors piss me off. They have no clue.

    We offshored our manufacturing. We are almost done offshoring all IT and hardware. Software is now going. It isn't really all about finance. Most of it is due to not making enough products and selling them for profit to bring cash into, instead of out of the country. Everything I usually buy aside from food and fuel is made in China. 9 to 1. And I try not to buy Chinese products when I have an alternative. Usually there is none even at a price disadvantage.

    Corporations are partly to blame for the eagerness in which they move whole industries that powered the western world to Asia. But government lacks any strategic response to it. Look at what Obama tried to do with the GM Volt and Solyndra. Either they try to force people to buy products nobody wants or they throw cash at AlGore approved manufacturing with no adult oversight. What a waste. At least Solyndra could have been something if there were actual people that knew business and technology were in change (instead of thieves).

    Now China is buying IBM facilities right here in the US (since they are empty due to offshoring) to employ Americans to make solar cells at a profit.

    Government has no answer for this. At this stage, it is too big and stupid to do anything more than suck wealth out of the system. We would be better off if they did nothing else and just freeze spending at 2008 levels for ten or twenty years.

    No, things will continue to spiral down and down until some parity is reached. When the average wealth of the US citizen is cut down to size so that the pittance they earn as compared to the Chinese slaves working at Foxxcom is equal, we will see a stabilization. And the disparity between rich and poor will continue to grow and the middle class shrink.

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    I got a feeling once it gets below 32 at night the party is going to be over at least until spring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck View Post
    All these protestors piss me off. They have no clue.

    We offshored our manufacturing. We are almost done offshoring all IT and hardware. Software is now going. It isn't really all about finance. Most of it is due to not making enough products and selling them for profit to bring cash into, instead of out of the country. Everything I usually buy aside from food and fuel is made in China. 9 to 1. And I try not to buy Chinese products when I have an alternative. Usually there is none even at a price disadvantage.

    Corporations are partly to blame for the eagerness in which they move whole industries that powered the western world to Asia. But government lacks any strategic response to it. Look at what Obama tried to do with the GM Volt and Solyndra. Either they try to force people to buy products nobody wants or they throw cash at AlGore approved manufacturing with no adult oversight. What a waste. At least Solyndra could have been something if there were actual people that knew business and technology were in change (instead of thieves).

    Now China is buying IBM facilities right here in the US (since they are empty due to offshoring) to employ Americans to make solar cells at a profit.

    Government has no answer for this. At this stage, it is too big and stupid to do anything more than suck wealth out of the system. We would be better off if they did nothing else and just freeze spending at 2008 levels for ten or twenty years.

    No, things will continue to spiral down and down until some parity is reached. When the average wealth of the US citizen is cut down to size so that the pittance they earn as compared to the Chinese slaves working at Foxxcom is equal, we will see a stabilization. And the disparity between rich and poor will continue to grow and the middle class shrink.
    well said...
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    They r getting free food, they have a library set up for their "free time", most not bathing, some there for as long as 3 weeks. Fuck these people. Not doubt this country needs some straightening out, but these people are useless and a great example of the pussy mentality of the modern hippie crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck View Post
    All these protestors piss me off. They have no clue.

    We offshored our manufacturing. We are almost done offshoring all IT and hardware. Software is now going. It isn't really all about finance. Most of it is due to not making enough products and selling them for profit to bring cash into, instead of out of the country. Everything I usually buy aside from food and fuel is made in China. 9 to 1. And I try not to buy Chinese products when I have an alternative. Usually there is none even at a price disadvantage.

    Corporations are partly to blame for the eagerness in which they move whole industries that powered the western world to Asia. But government lacks any strategic response to it. Look at what Obama tried to do with the GM Volt and Solyndra. Either they try to force people to buy products nobody wants or they throw cash at AlGore approved manufacturing with no adult oversight. What a waste. At least Solyndra could have been something if there were actual people that knew business and technology were in change (instead of thieves).

    Now China is buying IBM facilities right here in the US (since they are empty due to offshoring) to employ Americans to make solar cells at a profit.

    Government has no answer for this. At this stage, it is too big and stupid to do anything more than suck wealth out of the system. We would be better off if they did nothing else and just freeze spending at 2008 levels for ten or twenty years.

    No, things will continue to spiral down and down until some parity is reached. When the average wealth of the US citizen is cut down to size so that the pittance they earn as compared to the Chinese slaves working at Foxxcom is equal, we will see a stabilization. And the disparity between rich and poor will continue to grow and the middle class shrink.
    there comes a time when governments in the west with have to adopt a strategy that Canada used with the US auto makers a while bank, that being a branch plant system. Simply put, if you want to sell a car here then you need to build a car here. You don't have to build that specific car but you need to build a car that will either be sold here or elsewhere. The same will happen with other goods as well or you tax the shit out of any imported products - at a rate so high that it'll be cheaper to make it here.

    The issue of foreign manufacturing is really in the control of govt and, to a lessor extent, consumers. While everyone is rushing about to buy the new iphone (made in China), RIM is having trouble selling blackberries (not made in China). For some things consumers really have no choice (try finding kids clothes or toys made in North America - there's not much) but a lot of the problem is on us in many ways. We demand cheap products and to create a cheap product you need cheap labour (and that's not us). Hell, there's a tonne of Canadians who head stateside every day to buy goods cheaper in the States just to avoid taxes (and hurt Canadian job prospects in the process).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pal1800 View Post
    They r getting free food, they have a library set up for their "free time", most not bathing, some there for as long as 3 weeks. Fuck these people. Not doubt this country needs some straightening out, but these people are useless and a great example of the pussy mentality of the modern hippie crowd.
    Alot of what they're saying is not wrong. But they're saying so much that is insane that the good points kind of get buried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    Alot of what they're saying is not wrong. But they're saying so much that is insane that the good points kind of get buried.
    Understand that, but I really believe that most of them haven't put a real day in their entire lives. Just my feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pal1800 View Post
    Understand that, but I really believe that most of them haven't put a real day in their entire lives. Just my feeling.
    that's a solid guess. Sadly, protesting has become a career for many of these people.

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    Democratic campaign committee circulates petition urging people to 'stand with' the 'Occupy Wall Street' movement hoping to gain 100,000 supporters behind message to Republican house leadership.



    The Democratic Party moved a step closer to embracing the Occupy Wall Street movement as its own with the top campaign arm for House Democrats sending around a petition urging people to "stand with" the movement.
    Trying to push the new bill through.


    The DCCC is trying to gather 100,000 names on the petition to "send a message straight to Eric Cantor, Speaker Boehner, and the rest of reckless Republican leadership in Congress."
    Obama was just golfing with Boehner a few weeks ago. He obviously didn't think Boehner was so terrible that he couldn't play golf with him.


    At the same summit, businessman and GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain called the demonstrations "anti-capitalism" and "anti-free market." On CBS' "Face the Nation" on Sunday, Cain said it is "anti-American" to protest bankers. He said Wall Street didn't write the "failed economic policies."
    Translation: If they don't agree with me, they're not real Americans. Typical of republican politicians to hide behind the flag and the bible. He is so self-righteous that it's not even funny.

    In response to Cantor, House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said Cantor is being selective in his criticism of popular movements.

    "I didn't hear him say anything when the Tea Party was out demonstrating, actually spitting on members of Congress right here in the Capitol, and he and his colleagues were putting signs in the windows encouraging them," she told ABC's "This Week."
    True.

    Pelosi said she backs the protesters in their message.

    "I support the message to the establishment, whether it's Wall Street or the political establishment and the rest, that change has to happen. We cannot continue in a way that does not -- that is not relevant to their lives. People are angry," she said.
    Obama benefited from Wallstreet more than any President the last 20 years.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/1...-a-generation/

    While the protesters have hit on everything from war to the current crop of Hollywood films, demonstrators primarily criticize the nation's big banks for burdening average Americans with loan debt, squeezing out borrowers, slapping customers with new fees and withholding trillions in capital. They say the richest 1 percent of the nation are hanging onto the wealth to the destruction of the other 99 percent of the nation.
    Central bank= Problem. Yes, we know.

    Obama said last week that he thinks the protesters are "giving voice to a more broad-based frustration about how our financial system works." White House Press Secretary Jay Carney added that the protests on the streets of New York are "an expression of democracy."
    Like it or not, the protests is Democracy.


    One Democratic congressman who tried to show some solidarity with the protesters in Atlanta was turned away. In a video posted online, Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., could be seen attempting to address an Occupy Atlanta crowd. But through a confusing system of parliamentary procedures, the group's leader determined there was not enough "consensus" among the group to proceed, and Lewis ended up leaving. He later said he felt no slight by the refusal to speak.
    I think it's good that they didn't listen to the congressman. That suggests they don't want manipulation from the people that helped caused the mess were in.
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    UPDATE: Conservative Writer Admits ‘Infiltrating’ 99 Percent Movement To ‘Mock And Undermine’ It

    http://thinkprogress.org/special/201...cent-movement/

    The Young Turks discuss it:




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    They didn't need a conservative writer to mock and undermine them, they are doing just fine.

    Now that they have a political party supporting them they are truly a farce. They are against the establishment and the big bad powerful government. Now the DNC supports them. Not like it wasn't clear that they are a democratic movement anyway, if they were truly out their protesting that there aren't enough jobs they should have started this protest off across the street from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. That is where the guy lives that hasn't done shit to get Americans back to work.
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    What hippies fail to realize is that at the peak of their existence, the country voted in Richard Nixon. Then they voted him in again.

    As the economy further slips into the abyss, not even the disenfranchised hippie vote will save Obama.

    If they want to get rid of the people, do what Cartman did in Southpark when the hippies were congregating. Play Slayer.

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    Obama’s Top Political Advisor Directly Linked to Occupy Wall Street Protests

    Obama political advisor Patrick Gaspard holds the same White House position his Bush-era predecessor, Karl Rove, did. But before he was the White House political czar he worked in several far left organizations as activist and agitator.

    One of the more disturbing aspects of the Obama-ACORN connection is that the White House political affairs director is one Patrick Gaspard.

    Gaspard doesn’t register on the media radar screen in the way that his immediate Bush-era predecessor, Karl Rove, did. But as the New Orleans-based ACORN has been implicated in a host of illegal schemes ranging from voter registration fraud to embezzlement to tax evasion, he may get there.

    That’s because prior to assuming his current job, Gaspard, at least according to ACORN founder Wade Rathke, had been political director for the New York City chapter of ACORN under Bertha Lewis, who last year replaced Rathke as the group’s chief organizer and CEO. What’s more, he’s worked closely with the ACORN-controlled Working Families Party and the largest local within the Service Employees International Union.

    This weekend the Working Families Party of New York, Gaspard’s organization, placed an ad on Craig’s list for paid activists to fight Wall Street.

    What a coincidence!

    The organization run by current White House political director Patrick Gaspard is paying far left activists to continue the protests against Wall Street.



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