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    WASHINGTON -- Activists are outraged over a Friday announcement from the Department of Homeland Security that it will move ahead with its controversial Secure Communities immigration enforcement program, even if states do not agree to participate.

    "Todayís announcement confirms [Immigration and Customs Enforcement]ís status as a rogue agency," Pablo Alvarado, director of the National Day Laborer's Organizing Network and a vocal critic of Secure Communities, said in a statement. "The recent actions constitute a crisis not only for our civil rights but our democracy as a whole. Governments cannot rule by decree."

    The government faces a backlash over Secure Communities, a program that allows federal authorities to screen fingerprints of those arrested by local police in order to detect undocumented immigrants. Critics say the program nets large numbers of non-criminal undocumented immigrants and takes focus away from the primary targets of immigration enforcement, violent offenders.

    DHS implemented the program in a number of states by asking governors to sign on using memorandums of agreement, which helped DHS move toward its goal of spreading the program nationwide by 2013. Earlier this year, states began to push back against the program, arguing it threatens public safety and passes on enforcement costs to local governments.

    The program had originally been referred to as voluntary, with DHS listing instructions for states and local communities to "opt out." But when Illinois and New York terminated their memorandums of agreement with DHS in May and June, the agency confirmed it would continue to use fingerprints taken by local police for immigration enforcement.

    In effect, it meant the agreements between state and federal authorities were meaningless. The decision on Friday to stop creating memorandums of agreement canceled them altogether.

    "ICE has determined that a [memorandum of agreement] is not required to activate or operate Secure Communities for any jurisdiction," Immigration and Customs Enforcement head John Morton wrote in a letter to governors.

    DHS, meanwhile, is attempting to rehabilitate the program in the public eye, announcing it will develop new training to address civil rights concerns and fears over netting victims of domestic violence.

    "ICE continues to work with its law enforcement partners across the country to responsibly and effectively implement this federal information sharing capability and plans to reach complete nationwide activation by 2013," Nicole Navas, a spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said in a statement.
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    Secure Communities ought to be unplugged

    Whatever doubts remained about the failure of Secure Communities - a misnomer if there ever was one - should have been dispelled by the debacle of the ICE-appointed Homeland Security Advisory Council Task Force and its report released last week.

    The mission of the task force was to recommend improvements to the fingerprint sharing immigration enforcement program, besieged as it has been by controversy since its inception in June 2008.

    But the report itself, although not going as far as asking for the dismantling of Secure Communities, was highly critical. It questioned the program's negative effect on community-police relations, the inaccurate and incomplete information about the program provided by Immigration and Customs Enforcement to state and local officials and the lack of clarity on whether the program is in fact legally mandated.

    "To the extent that Secure Communities may damage community policing, the result can be greater levels of crime," the report said. "If residents do not trust their local police, they are less willing to step forward as witnesses to or victims of crime."

    It would seem you do not need a task force to figure this out.

    Created by ICE Director John Morton in response to the increasing level of criticism to the program, the task force originally had 20 members but five of them thought the recommendations didn't go far enough and resigned after declining to sign the document.

    "If we had made a recommendation that this program needs to go back to its original intent, I would have been happy with that," said former Sacramento, Calif., police chief Arturo Venegas, one of the resigning task force members. "The conclusion that I came to is that even with the present recommendation, deportations of misdemeanors and low-level offenders will still continue."

    Venegas also criticized Secure Communities for its abandonment of the "innocent until proven guilty" principle.

    "If you are an immigrant, and you are charged with a more serious offense, you are 'guilty until proven innocent' and you will be referred for deportation," Venegas said. "As an immigrant myself, and as an American, I cannot support that differing standard."

    The program's original intent was the detention and deportation of the "worst of the worst" criminal aliens. Yet, it quickly departed from its stated goal and began to persecute and deport low-level offenders such as traffic violators.

    Federal records show 392,862 immigrants were deported in fiscal 2010. Of those, 197,090 had no convictions, 195,772 did and 29% had no criminal records at all.

    Many state and city political leaders, police chiefs such as Venegas, immigration advocates and congressional members increasingly raised their voices against Secure Communities and the dire and unfair consequences it had for many innocent immigrant families.

    In June, Gov. Cuomo withdrew New York from Secure Communities as have the governors of Illinois and Massachusetts.

    "It's no surprise, given the limited scope that the task force was given, that the fundamental problems surrounding this program could not be fixed," said Chung-Wha Hong, executive director of the New York Immigration Coalition.

    "It has been clear since this program's inception that the moment local police engage in immigration enforcement, they lose the trust of the communities they serve; the program simply needs to be dismantled."

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    The part of this debate that blows my mind, they are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!!!!

    What part of fucking illegal do people not understand?

    Send them fucking packing.
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    Secure Communities under fire again
    September 16, 2011


    Secure Communities, a controversial immigration enforcement program, is under fire again. This time from a retired police chief.

    Arturo Venegas, a former Sacramento police chief, was appointed to serve on a federal task force created to review the program. This week he announced he was resigning from the task force because Secure Communities was "undermining public safety" and he couldn't endorse a forthcoming report by the group.



    As reporter Paloma Esquivel noted in Friday's Los Angeles Times story, a draft of the report states that Secure Communities could actually result in "greater levels of crime" because members of immigrant communities would be afraid to step forward as victims of or to report crimes.

    Under Secure Communities, state and local law enforcement officers are required to share the fingerprints of everyone booked into a jail with federal immigration officials. The program was launched in 2008 as a way to find and deport serious criminals, but it has led to the deportation of thousands of undocumented immigrants with no criminal convictions, or only minor ones.

    The Obama administration formed the federal task force in response to widespread criticism from state officials and some police groups, along with immigrant rights groups, who said Secure Communities undermined community policing.

    The Department of Homeland Security has every right to enforce existing immigration laws and certainly should prioritize who it goes after to protect all communities. But it seems it can't figure out a way to make Secure Communities work despite a recent memo declaring it was prioritizing deportation cases in immigration court.

    Perhaps the Obama administration could revamp the program so that it checks the fingerprints of those arrested after the person is arraigned in court. That would help avoid claims of racial profiling or accusations that Secure Community is ensnaring individuals who are arrested for minor violations, such as selling food on the street, but never prosecuted.

    Secure Communities is also problematic because it is a redundant program. Consider that federal immigration officials currently have the Criminal Alien Program, which screens local jails and state prisons for deportable immigrants convicted of crimes.

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    The part of this debate that blows my mind, they are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!!!!

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    The simple fact that they are illegal immigrants removes the innocent until proven guilty factory.

    If they are here illegally, why do we care whether the crime they commit is a misdemeanor or felony?

    All we have to do is enforce the laws in place.
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    Trespassing is a crime so illegal immigrants have one strike against them as soon as they step over our border. Tax evasion is a crime as well so there is strike 2. Driving without a license and insurance are crimes as well so there is 3 and 4 before they even get out the door for their first day for illegal work. Being hired by a boss who knows you're illegal is a conspiracy to commit a crime so there is 5.

    Shall I keep going you country killing self centered bastards? Why is it the American citizens problem that your country sucks balls and your people won't rise up to fix it? These opportunties are only for people willing to become legal American citizens
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    I don't know what sickens me more - the hordes of people invading our country and taking up illegal residence or the hordes of people who feel we should just let 'em be.

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    Go back home and wait in line. If we need you, we'll get a guest worker program. We owe nothing to anybody who is a non citizen. Anything given is from our generosity or lately our stupidity.

    Just a side note on what this shit does. I don't care what political party you are from, but Rick Perry(a republican) supports some free out of state tuition BS for illegals, the only reason he does is to buy the hispanic vote. Democrats have been wrecklessly giving welfare to the poor and uneducated so they can reproduce low quality and vote for the Dems every chance to get their entitlement.

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