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    Default San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge Controversially Made in China

    When it was built in 1936, the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge was a Depression-era project that put scores of Americans to work. When its $6.3 billion replacement opens in two years, it will be an international affair from the bottom up, an example of massive outsourcing that has drawn both praise and criticism.

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    Half a dozen countries contributed expertise or materials, none more so than China.

    "China was immensely helpful to getting this project built," says California Department of Transportation spokesman Bart Ney. "They were able to turn the steel around and work directly with our own inspectors to make sure we met the specifications of what this bridge required."

    Several thousand Chinese workers spent five years fabricating the steel used to construct the roadbeds, cable strands, and landmark tower for the single anchor suspension bridge set to open in 2013.

    But the project is sparking outrage among groups who argue the work should have stayed here.

    Huge deck segments were shipped overseas from Shanghai, contributing to pollution, say critics, and delivering another blow to California's battered economy and 12 % unemployment rate.

    Roger Ferch with the National Steel Bridge Alliance says "I saw one estimate of the fabrication man hours, the labor to construct this bridge in the fabrication shop of more than a million man hours. That's a million man hours of work that should have been done in the US."

    And each job, Ferch, says, has a multiplier effect "because not only do you lose the fabrication jobs, you lose those people paying taxes, those people buying groceries, those people buying clothing, and the list goes on."

    California transportation officials argue they saved $400 million by turning to China, in large part because they didn't have to pay American union wages and benefits. With the clock ticking, they say more was at stake than money.

    "We're trying to get this bridge completed by 2013. These segments that are larger steel boxes were fabricated in Shanghai because they had the ability to produce them and get them out here on site," contends Ney.

    Some critics have questioned the quality of the steel work done overseas, but bridge officials say their inspections have shown that China, which has dominated bridge building for years, has helped produce a structural marvel that will be immediately usable after a major earthquake.

    Twenty two years after the Loma Prieta Quake brought down a section of the upper deck, seismic integrity is the primary objective.

    The new span is also expected to enhance San Francisco's skyline, and, like it or not, China's resume as a world leader in civil engineering.
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    "China was immensely helpful to getting this project built," says California Department of Transportation spokesman Bart Ney. "They were able to turn the steel around and work directly with our own inspectors to make sure we met the specifications of what this bridge required."
    Everything about that statement is so telling, and so utterly depressing. America is so screwed up. So far gone.

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    If America didn't have such an awesome history and existence, there would be an exodus of people heading across the ocean these days.
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    It's no different than buying this from Walmart. If Walmart sold bridges I am sure it would have been purchased there...after being made in China of course.
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    That is just depressing.

    I fully understand the benefits (and drawbacks) of the global economy.

    But the fact that the United States imports the Bay Bridge instead of engineering, building and installing it here using American workers is mind numbing.
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    This news is a couple of years old if you live here in NORCAL. You should see the size of the steel sections they are talking about.

    http://baybridgeinfo.org/

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    Bridge just better be earthquake proof....lol....

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    Makes me sick.

    Today at work, I saw a large group of Chinese workers being escorted around. My company is moving hundreds of jobs there, and also bringing a lot of folks from China here to cross-train. Double whammy.

    I have nothing personal against these guys from China as individuals...they just want to work. If I was in China and scored a decent job with a large "American" company, I would take it and have no regrets. But it is just a matter of time, for me, and many of my co-workers and their families. We will be S.O.L. The only edge we have right now is experience and a high-skill culture. That can be reached by new China employees through time and serious training.

    I'm pissed at the environment we have set up where it is next to impossible to produce products and services at a competitive rate. Easier to just make everything in China. They can hire many Chinese employees for one of me. How long can my company justify paying me that much more while the Chinese workers continue to train and learn.

    At some point, those lines intersect.

    I don't like what is happening. And to top it off, I come on this site and read this link. Bah.

 

 

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