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    "As my tribute to the man who got me interested in notewatching in the first place (that is to say, Jowox), here's my much more thorough and accurate remake of his original range video for David Lee Roth. Roth's range comes as such a surprise to many that it is often outright denied that he ever had more than two octaves, but the facts remain that he is quite possibly the only singer to record MORE than four octaves in full voice. During his early days in Van Halen, his range was much more average, hardly ever reaching the fifth octave in full voice. It was more around the time of A Little Ain't Enough that his full voice really exploded, and from there he heavily applied it on Your Filthy Little Mouth and the albums after it. Roth's high baritone voice itself has remained remarkably unchanged throughout the years; his timbre still sounds almost exactly like it did in the '70s. With the huge extensions he's made on his low range, though, there are times where he sounds like a standard baritone or bass!

    1. 0:00 - Singing down to C♯2 in a backing vocal from "King Of The Hill", with some short notes up to E5 in there too!
    2. 0:17 - Sung C♯2s from "No Big 'Ting", Roth's attempt at reggae.
    3. 0:34 - A spoken bit from the end of "Indeedido" reaching C♯2 in full voice and G♯1 in vocal fry.
    4. 0:42 - A spoken section from "Counter-Blast", bottoming a C2.
    5. 0:54 - A C2 from "The Full Bug".
    6. 1:00 - Full voice notes down to C2 and fry down to G1 from "Tight".
    7. 1:11 - A low rap from the "You're Breathin' It" Urban NYC mix, bottoming at B1.
    8. 1:29 - A short F♯5 and several strong low notes down to B1 from "Counter-Blast"!
    9. 1:34 - Some lows down to B1 from the very random vocal solo "Act One".
    10. 1:48 - The verse from "Tight", in which Roth features very strong low notes down to B♭1 in full voice and E1 in fry.
    11. 2:16 - A breathy slide down to B♭1 from "Experience".
    12. 2:21 - A slide down to B♭1 from the end of "Wa Wa Zat!!"
    13. 2:29 - A great passage for low notes from the end of "Big Train". Bottoms at A1.
    14. 2:44 - A very long passage from "If 6 Was 9" that really showcases Roth's low range. Reaches A1 in full voice and E1 in fry.
    15. 4:11 - Low notes from the bridge of "Me Wise Magic", bottoming at A1 in full voice and F♯1 in fry.
    16. 4:31 - The verse of "Let It All Hang Out", which is an entire song full of spoken lows. This clip reaches G♯1 in full voice and E1 in fry.
    17. 4:55 - Strong G♯1s from "Little Texas".
    18. 5:01 - A spoken passage from the end of "If 6 Was 9", this time reaching G1.
    19. 5:08 - A very strong low passage from "Slam Dunk!", with several G♯1s and one that touches on G1!
    20. 5:23 - The last verse of "Let It All Hang Out", where Roth hits a full G1 in the last phrase, then slides down to an F♯1 in whispery fry.
    21. 5:34 - Roth's lowest fry note: a gurgly D1 from "Can't Get This Stuff No More".
    22. 5:43 - Now we begin with Roth's surprisingly extensive high range! First is some singing around D5 from "Counter-Blast".
    23. 5:54 - Formidable singing up to D5 from "Big Train".
    24. 6:04 - A strong D5 from the country version of "Jump".
    25. 6:09 - Entire lines at E♭5 from the swing version of "Ice Cream Man"!
    26. 6:28 - Singing up to E♭5 from "Indeedido".
    27. 6:49 - A surprisingly emotional(!) E♭5 from "Experience".
    28. 6:54 - A whole line sung at E5 from "Little Texas"!
    29. 6:58 - A sustained E5 from the ending of "Little Texas", with a whistle E♭6 right after.
    30. 7:10 - A sustained E5 from the ending of "Blacklight".
    31. 7:16 - Multiple F5s from the end of "She's My Machine".
    32. 7:50 - Another set of numerous F5s from "Weekend With The Babysitter"!
    33. 8:14 - A glissando from E♭2 to F5 from "Right Tool For The Job"!
    34. 8:19 - A strong but short F♯5 from the beginning of "A Lil' Ain't Enough".
    35. 8:25 - A short F♯5 from "King Of The Hill", followed by a short D5.
    36. 8:30 - Strong F♯5s and F5s from the ending of "Slam Dunk!"
    37. 8:46 - A shouted countdown from "Big Train", getting as high as G5.
    38. 8:52 - Several yelps from "You Got The Blues, Not Me...", hitting F♯5 several times and G5 once.
    39. 8:57 - A short G5 from "Me Wise Magic", right after a sung C♯2!
    40. 9:04 - A brief yelp from "Big Train", touching on Roth's highest full voice note: G♯5!
    41. 9:09 - Another G♯5, from "Weekend With The Babysitter"!
    42. 9:14 - A falsetto B♭5 from "I'm The One".
    43. 9:19 - A non-modal F6 from "Goin' Crazy".
    44. 9:24 - Multiple whistle G♯6s from "You're No Good".
    45. 9:35 - A whistle A6 from "Hot For Teacher".
    46. 9:40 - A whistle B♭6 from "Bottoms Up!".
    47. 9:45 - A short whistle C7 from "Elephant Gun".
    48. 9:52 - Roth's highest notes overall: whistle up to D7(!) in the background during "You Really Got Me"."
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    mmmm-kay ......
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    Personally, I really don't count falsetto and tricks such as whistles to be part of your singing range, but that's just me.

    I've seen other YouTube vids like this before. It's interesting, but I just don't agree with a lot of it, especially since he hasn't been able to produce any of this type of range live since the early 80's.

    Also, his new upper range that he discovered on ALAE, in my opinion, sounds horrible and is very thin.

    And yes, DLR is my favorite singer, but I am realistic, I like the sound of his voice, but trying to make him out to be some incredibly talented vocalist is a stretch.
    Taylor Swift is nice to look at. Adele can sing.

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    I agree. For me, Dave's greatness in his singing comes from his attitude, personality, great timing and delivery. Making him out to be some vocal giant or that he would have been a world class opera singer if not for VH, seems kinda silly to be honest.
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    This seems pretty ridiculous. Dave's voice today is kind of like an old blues guy, just gravely and coarse, and it sounds best when he talks/sings. The scream is gone and he struggles noticeably when he actually tries to sing. Some analysis trying to prove that Dave is an amazing singer is laughable...he is the greatest frontman ever though, and that's something else entirely.

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    Wow, if screams, tricks and whistles count, I didn't realize the range that I HAVE.

    Somebody wasted a lot of time here. Or has too much time to waste. Kind of like responding on this thread .

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    Dave FRONTMAN: Incredible frontman back in the day, yes (probably the best). Today, just a little above average.

    Dave SINGER: Great recorded singer back in the day, cool sounding voice on recordings, but live, just average if strictly counting the voice. (This is why no live VH album). Today, voice is probably better for singing, but he can't do all the tricks that made him unique (sqeals and screams).
    Lets just throw a pound of weed in the fire place, f@#% it!

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    Still better than Sam, who cant help but oversing everything and sounds perpetually as if someone slapped a rubber band on his balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlindtotheWorld View Post
    Dave's greatness in his singing comes from his attitude, personality, great timing and delivery.

    Speaking of all that...



    The ocean breezes cool my mind
    The salty days are hers and mine
    To do what we wanna.

    Tonight we'll find a dune that's ours
    And softly she will speak the stars
    Until sun up.

    I love how he sings that shit,it NEVER gets old.

    I have YET to this day seeked out Lovin Spoonfuls
    original version of that tune,as far as im concerned,
    there is only ONE version,and thats DAVES version.

    Much like Van Halen's cover of The Kinks You Really
    Got Me...In my mind, The Kinks version doesnt exist.

    Im hopin there is a layed back tune on the new cd,
    where Dave can do a vocal performance much like...
    Coconut Grove,Push Comes To Shove,Little Dreamer,
    Secrets,Damn Good,Ladies Nite In Buffalo,Black Sand,Sunburn etc...
    Love without affection,is hate without the pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OctobanAnimal View Post
    Still better than Sam, who cant help but oversing everything and sounds perpetually as if someone slapped a rubber band on his balls.
    I thought F'nRockstar's comments were mostly complementary of Dave. And what does Hagar have to do with the discussion? I swear, you Dave-only guys are just tormented by that guy.
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    Only eight replies before someone drags Sammy into it. If I'm reading the original post correctly, this isn't about comparing the two. And for those Dave-or-the-gravers who constantly do this, dragging Sammy through the muck does nothing to elevate DLR. Dave's talents stand on their own.

    Speaking of, I've never bought into the "Dave can't sing" argument. The guy had amazing tone, good vibrato and (when he wanted to) hit his pitch perfectly. In my opinion, he just didn't care that much about technicalities while giving a show. When pressed, he can sing with the best of 'em. I think his attitude for the '07 and '08 shows shifted because he couldn't get away with NOT singing well like he could in the early 80s.

    Essentially, he's balancing his skills, which is a sign of a pro.

    As for the range argument, that never was his forte. He's a great baritone, period. He can stretch into tenor range, but his voice really thins out and sounds forced and unnatural.

    Bottom line: Dave is Dave, and that's pretty damn good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mannyroth View Post



    She sang it better than Dave did on some nights
    during those early 80 tours

    With her facial and hand expressions and slured vocals,
    she also appears to be a little tipsy though.
    Someone must have put some Jack in her juice box
    right before filming that video.

    That was bad of me...Sorry hehehe

    It was a cute vid none the less...Rather watch her
    take a stab at a Dave classic,than watch that Bieber
    dude any day of the week.

    And i dont know why i turned the volume WAY UP
    towards the end of that video,its prolly cause i
    always enjoyed Ed's outro to that tune,but i was
    so NOT expecting her to SCREAM like that at the end,it...
    Scared the BEJESUS out of me!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OctobanAnimal View Post
    Still better than Sam, who cant help but oversing everything and sounds perpetually as if someone slapped a rubber band on his balls.
    Not really seeing where Sam was mentioned in this thread at all before you brought him up.

    We get it, you don't like Sam, how about moving on? Coming into a thread that has mostly been very complimentary of DLR and lambasting Sammy has a contrarian effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonno View Post
    Speaking of all that...



    The ocean breezes cool my mind
    The salty days are hers and mine
    To do what we wanna.

    Tonight we'll find a dune that's ours
    And softly she will speak the stars
    Until sun up.

    I love how he sings that shit,it NEVER gets old.

    I have YET to this day seeked out Lovin Spoonfuls
    original version of that tune,as far as im concerned,
    there is only ONE version,and thats DAVES version.

    Much like Van Halen's cover of The Kinks You Really
    Got Me...In my mind, The Kinks version doesnt exist.

    Im hopin there is a layed back tune on the new cd,
    where Dave can do a vocal performance much like...
    Coconut Grove,Push Comes To Shove,Little Dreamer,
    Secrets,Damn Good,Ladies Nite In Buffalo,Black Sand,Sunburn etc...
    I have always felt that it is in songs like this, Damn Good, Black Sand, etc. in which DLR really shines. He has the ability to set a mood with his voice, and that is a rare ability that is vastly under rated and that not many singers have.
    Taylor Swift is nice to look at. Adele can sing.

    Emperor Brett - "I can't believe you guys are analyzing song-by-song Van Halen III? What next, analyzing the script of Stroker Ace looking for some shred of Citizen Kane?"

    David Lee Roth did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it!

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