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    US Government To Mandate All Farm Vehicles Require CDL Licenses

    DOT To Mandate All Farm Vehicles Require CDL Licenses, Could Bring Demise To Farmers

    In Late May, the DOT proposed a rule change for farm equipment, and if it this allowed to take effect, it will place significant regulatory pressure on small farms and family farms all across America – costing them thousands of dollars and possibly forcing many of them out of business. The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA), part of the Department of Transportation (DOT), wants new standards that would require all farmers and everyone on the farm to obtain a CDL (Commercial Drivers License) in order to operate any farming equipment. The agency is going to accomplish this by reclassifying all farm vehicles and implements as Commercial Motor Vehicles (CMVs).



    (It is also important to note here that DOT Secretary Ray LaHood holds a seat on the newly created White House Rural Council. A powerful group whose members have ties to George Soros and The Center For American Progress.)

    The move by the DOT appears to be “legislation through regulation.” By reclassifying all farm vehicles and implements as Commercial Vehicles, the federal government will now be able to claim regulatory control over the estimated 800,000 farm workers in America, at the same time, overriding the rights of the states.

    The proposed change also means ANYONE driving a tractor or operating any piece of motorized farming equipment would be forced to pass the same rigorous tests and fill out the same detailed forms and diaries required of semi-tractor trailer drivers. This reclassification would bury small farms and family farms in regulation and paperwork.

    Some of the additional paperwork and regulation required:

    •Detailed logs would need to be kept by all drivers – hours worked, miles traveled, etc.
    •Vehicles would have to display DOT numbers
    •Drivers would need to pass a physical as well as a drug test – every two years.


    The Wisconsin Farm Bureau Federation (WFBF) is one of many farm organizations not happy about the idea and has sent the DOT a letter expressing this opinion:

    “WFBF opposes any change in statue or regulatory authority that would reclassify implements of husbandry or other farm equipment as Commercial Motor Vehicles (CMVs)”

    WFBF Director of Governmental Relations Karen Gefvert continues, explaining the excessive cost to farmers if this allowed to move forward:

    “The proposed guidance by the FMCSA would result in an initial increased cost to each Wisconsin farmer and employee of $124 just for the CDL license, permit and test; not to mention the time and cost for the behind-the-wheel training that is several thousand dollars.”

    Additionally, Illinois farmers believe this regulation will also force new restrictions on trucks used in crop-share hauling. (One estimate claims more than 30% of Illinois farmers utilize shared land.) These crop-share trucks are typically limited-use vehicles that often travel fewer than 3000 miles each year, mainly hauling crops from the fields to nearby grain elevators. To require them to follow the same rules as semis would also mean a farmer would be forced to purchase substantial insurance.

    The Hancock Journal-Pilot covered the story:

    Earlier this year, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) began to define crop-share tenant farmers as “for-hire“ carriers and implements of husbandry as ”commercial motor vehicles.“ The ”for-hire” designation for crop-share tenant farmers would have a dramatic effect on farmers because it voids exemptions from the Commercial Driver’s License (CDL) program and would require a minimum of $750,000 in insurance coverage for the farmer.

    The DOT is holding hearings for public comment on the topic, but only through Monday, August 1st and farmers all across the country are rightfully concerned. No matter what the feedback is from the people who actually grow the food, it appears that the DOT’s mind is made up. Just last week, DOT Administrator Anna Ferro posted an Op-Ed addressing the controversial regulation. The opinion piece closes with this statement:

    Everyone in this Administration – from President Obama, Vice President Biden, and Secretary LaHood on down – is committed to the long-term success of America’s agricultural industry. In many ways, agriculture is the backbone of our economy – feeding hundreds of millions of Americans and billions more around the world. As the largest user of freight transportation in the nation, the agricultural industry is also one of USDOT’s most important constituents. We hope that this comment period is the start of a new and productive relationship. We may not ultimately agree on every issue, but we will always listen — and do our best to help America’s farmers succeed.

    The FMCSA has said their intent is to create uniformity in way federal safety regulations are carried out across America. The farming community and many of the states that would be affected by this change feel differently. Almost to a man, the farming community believes this to be a local issue, best handled by state governments, and not some Washington DC agency.

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    The DOT has done a fine job screwing up the aviation industry. The only thing they know how to do is implement unfair tax increases. Again, the GOV is out of money and trying to do anything they can to get a few more bucks off of hard working Americans. Sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr5115 View Post
    The DOT has done a fine job screwing up the aviation industry. The only thing they know how to do is implement unfair tax increases. Again, the GOV is out of money and trying to do anything they can to get a few more bucks off of hard working Americans. Sad
    Actually, the airline industry is far less regulated that the trucking industry.
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    FMCSA drops plans to regulate farm trucks as CMVs
    Aug 15, 2011 12:07 PM, By Brian Straight, managing editor

    The agricultural industry is able to breathe a collective sigh of relief after the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) dropped its intention to regulate agricultural vehicles as commercial motor vehicles (CMV). The agency also considered requiring anyone who operates farm equipment on public roads to be subject to the Commercial Driver’s License (CDL) rule.

    However, in a ”Regulatory Guidance” on Docket No. FMCSA-2011-0146 that FMCSA issued last week, the agency stated that “After considering comments from the public, FMCSA has determined that no further guidance is needed on interpreting interstate commerce and implements of husbandry.

    “FMCSA,” the notice continued, “is issuing guidance that farmers operating under share-cropping or similar arrangements are not common or contract carriers and, therefore, are eligible for the CDL exemption if a state elects to adopt the exemption.”

    “Farmers in New York have long known that we are the driving force of the economy in upstate New York and Long Island,” said Dean Norton, New York Farm Bureau (NYFB) president. “It is refreshing to see that [Transportation secretary Ray] LaHood acknowledges the important role we play in keeping the economy moving and feeding the nation.”

    FMCSA posed three questions regarding the proposal during the public comment period. First, how do you distinguish between intra- and interstate commerce when a CMV is operated within the boundaries of a single state? Second, whether FMCSA should distinguish between indirect and direct compensation in deciding whether a farm vehicle driver is eligible for the exception to the CDL requirements? And third, should implements of husbandry and other farm equipment be considered CMVs?

    “I am very pleased that the federal Dept. of Transportation decided not to pursue imposing onerous federal regulations on farmers whose livelihood depends on their ability to operate farm vehicles and agricultural equipment,” said Sen. Susan Collins ( R-ME). “Earlier this month, I joined 21 of my colleagues in the Senate to express my concern on the unfair and expensive burden that would require farmers to obtain Commercial Driver’s Licenses. All of us who grew up in Aroostook County, or live there now, have seen farmers on the side of the road driving a tractor or hauling a digger. They operate safely.”

    Collins, ranking member of the Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies Appropriations Subcommittee, said in her statement that states should use “common sense” in setting exemptions for CDLs.

    “We have no intention of instituting onerous regulations on the hardworking farmers who feed our country and fuel our economy,” said Ray LaHood, transportation secretary, in a statement announcing the decision.

    The American Farm Bureau Federation (AFBF), which represents farm and ranch families, was quick to applaud the move.

    “This public announcement and the guidance sent to states today by the FMCSA is great news for America’s farm and ranch families,” said AFBF president Bob Stallman. “The key word is common-sense, and it was refreshing to see that our federal authorities heard the concerns we expressed. It lifts a big cloud of uncertainty in farm country and the action is greatly appreciated.”
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    Am I the only one that finds this funny?

    WFBF Director of Governmental Relations Karen Gefvert continues, explaining the excessive cost to farmers if this allowed to move forward:

    “The proposed guidance by the FMCSA would result in an initial increased cost to each Wisconsin farmer and employee of $124 just for the CDL license, permit and test; not to mention the time and cost for the behind-the-wheel training that is several thousand dollars.”

    So, Ms. Director, you are saying they DON'T know HOW to operate their vehicles now, but they are using them anyway??? LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRMB View Post
    Actually, the airline industry is far less regulated that the trucking industry.
    Not to drift on the thread, but the aviation industry in the most regulated De-regulated industry out there. Not to mention the most heavily taxed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr5115 View Post
    Not to drift on the thread, but the aviation industry in the most regulated De-regulated industry out there. Not to mention the most heavily taxed.
    Actually, they're not.

    In the trucking industry, we're taxed on EVERYTHING we do. We pay IFTA fuel taxes, state fuel taxes, that include any local taxes at the location of fueling, road use taxes for ALL states operated in, taxes on plates, permits, etc. If you have to have special endorsements for hazmat loads, the driver pays, on average, $165 for the endorsement, background check, finger printing, etc.

    A lot of states have split speed limits. A slower speed for trucks and a faster speed for cars. Slowly, states are starting to get away from that. They've realized it's actually safer for cars & trucks to be at a uniformed speed.

    Then there's the whole matter of driver regulation. Truck drivers are more regulated than pilots & charter bus drivers. Which we find odd because their cargo are human beings. With the rash of fatal bus crashes on the east coast, the FMCSA is FINALLY starting to crack down on the bus industry. We carry goods, they carry people, but were allowed to go pretty much unchecked.

    At the beginning of this year, the FMCSA instituted CSA 2010. They compiled the last 3 years of ALL drivers, and trucking company records. It's now going to be the "report card" of a drivers "employment fitness." And a trucking company's road-worthiness.

    Before this, there was a company called USIS that had a subjective system called The DAC Report. A company could hamstring a driver, for any reason, and the driver had to fight and fight to get false, or misleading info removed. CSA 2010 is going to be the most accurate thing, finally. But, it also means that ANYTHING we do, no matter what type of vehicle we drive, will be noted on it. Before, tickets in your car couldn't go against your driving qualifications. Now they will.

    I'm willing to bet pilots & the airline industry don't have this.

    Trucking surpassed the aviation industry in most taxed & regulated about 10-15 years ago, when de-regulation of the motor carrier industry happened.
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