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    Default New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hold In Global Warming Alarmism

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    NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

    Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA's Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA's Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.


    "The satellite observations suggest there is much more energy lost to space during and after warming than the climate models show," Spencer said in a July 26 University of Alabama press release. "There is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is especially big over the oceans."

    In addition to finding that far less heat is being trapped than alarmist computer models have predicted, the NASA satellite data show the atmosphere begins shedding heat into space long before United Nations computer models predicted.

    The new findings are extremely important and should dramatically alter the global warming debate.

    Scientists on all sides of the global warming debate are in general agreement about how much heat is being directly trapped by human emissions of carbon dioxide (the answer is "not much"). However, the single most important issue in the global warming debate is whether carbon dioxide emissions will indirectly trap far more heat by causing large increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds. Alarmist computer models assume human carbon dioxide emissions indirectly cause substantial increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds (each of which are very effective at trapping heat), but real-world data have long shown that carbon dioxide emissions are not causing as much atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds as the alarmist computer models have predicted.

    The new NASA Terra satellite data are consistent with long-term NOAA and NASA data indicating atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds are not increasing in the manner predicted by alarmist computer models. The Terra satellite data also support data collected by NASA's ERBS satellite showing far more longwave radiation (and thus, heat) escaped into space between 1985 and 1999 than alarmist computer models had predicted. Together, the NASA ERBS and Terra satellite data show that for 25 years and counting, carbon dioxide emissions have directly and indirectly trapped far less heat than alarmist computer models have predicted.

    In short, the central premise of alarmist global warming theory is that carbon dioxide emissions should be directly and indirectly trapping a certain amount of heat in the earth's atmosphere and preventing it from escaping into space. Real-world measurements, however, show far less heat is being trapped in the earth's atmosphere than the alarmist computer models predict, and far more heat is escaping into space than the alarmist computer models predict.

    When objective NASA satellite data, reported in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, show a "huge discrepancy" between alarmist climate models and real-world facts, climate scientists, the media and our elected officials would be wise to take notice. Whether or not they do so will tell us a great deal about how honest the purveyors of global warming alarmism truly are.

    James M. Taylor is senior fellow for environment policy at The Heartland Institute and managing editor of Environment & Climate News.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamalama View Post
    Too early for an argument...
    the guy that started all the alarm bells ringing (a British scientist, i forget his name) said recently in an interview that he "fudged" some of the figures. My personal belief is that he was 'asked' to do so, so that governments could impliment Green Taxes...but then again that could all just be my own conspiracy theory



    you edited your original post...not that i was argueing.
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    ive said it before, ill say it again,

    this planet is going to do what it wants regardless of us little insignificant creatures
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyBHarris View Post
    Interesting...

    NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

    Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA's Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA's Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.


    "The satellite observations suggest there is much more energy lost to space during and after warming than the climate models show," Spencer said in a July 26 University of Alabama press release. "There is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is especially big over the oceans."

    In addition to finding that far less heat is being trapped than alarmist computer models have predicted, the NASA satellite data show the atmosphere begins shedding heat into space long before United Nations computer models predicted.

    The new findings are extremely important and should dramatically alter the global warming debate.

    Scientists on all sides of the global warming debate are in general agreement about how much heat is being directly trapped by human emissions of carbon dioxide (the answer is "not much"). However, the single most important issue in the global warming debate is whether carbon dioxide emissions will indirectly trap far more heat by causing large increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds. Alarmist computer models assume human carbon dioxide emissions indirectly cause substantial increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds (each of which are very effective at trapping heat), but real-world data have long shown that carbon dioxide emissions are not causing as much atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds as the alarmist computer models have predicted.

    The new NASA Terra satellite data are consistent with long-term NOAA and NASA data indicating atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds are not increasing in the manner predicted by alarmist computer models. The Terra satellite data also support data collected by NASA's ERBS satellite showing far more longwave radiation (and thus, heat) escaped into space between 1985 and 1999 than alarmist computer models had predicted. Together, the NASA ERBS and Terra satellite data show that for 25 years and counting, carbon dioxide emissions have directly and indirectly trapped far less heat than alarmist computer models have predicted.

    In short, the central premise of alarmist global warming theory is that carbon dioxide emissions should be directly and indirectly trapping a certain amount of heat in the earth's atmosphere and preventing it from escaping into space. Real-world measurements, however, show far less heat is being trapped in the earth's atmosphere than the alarmist computer models predict, and far more heat is escaping into space than the alarmist computer models predict.

    When objective NASA satellite data, reported in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, show a "huge discrepancy" between alarmist climate models and real-world facts, climate scientists, the media and our elected officials would be wise to take notice. Whether or not they do so will tell us a great deal about how honest the purveyors of global warming alarmism truly are.

    James M. Taylor is senior fellow for environment policy at The Heartland Institute and managing editor of Environment & Climate News.

    http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow...192334971.html

    I basically ignored this stuff up until about 2 months ago.

    A lot of the Pro Global Warming people are here:

    http://www.skepticalscience.com/

    The Deniers are here:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/

    I never cared about Science much in my life... But it's amazing how political this shit is now. Even if it's real, we will never get the whole truth because like everything else now it's been taken over by politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommywho5150 View Post
    the guy that started all the alarm bells ringing (a British scientist, i forget his name) said recently in an interview that he "fudged" some of the figures. My personal belief is that he was 'asked' to do so, so that governments could impliment Green Taxes...but then again that could all just be my own conspiracy theory



    you edited your original post...not that i was argueing.
    This is incorrect. Global Warming goes back further than this and it was really getting a lot of hype by in 1988 by Dr. James Hansen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey Metalhead View Post
    ive said it before, ill say it again,

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknblues81 View Post
    This is incorrect. Global Warming goes back further than this and it was really getting a lot of hype by in 1988 by Dr. James Hansen.
    I'll try to find the interview, it was major news over here.
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    Considering the shit our worlds economy is in, who really gives a shit about polar bears? I mean I love nature and live every day in its amazing glory but right now our politicians have a bit more urgent matters than global warming. Do you think some homeless man is worried about the melting of the polar caps? No he is worried about how to get something to eat or find a place to sleep. If the economy doesn't rebound in the next year or so, we may find ourselves in a depression and some of us might be on the streets looking for food and shelter.

    Right now they should worry about the economy cause without it, all of our lives are in peril now. Not 40 years or 100 years. Now. I don't think there is any debate on whether our economy is in the toilet. Right or left, it is a known fact our economy is in deep shit. Fix the known problems and then tackle the ones Al Gore is knee deep in like this and Man Bear Pig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommywho5150 View Post
    I'll try to find the interview, it was major news over here.
    I don't really like to use wikipedia, but here is the bio on him:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hansen

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    Who knows what or who to believe anymore. It's impossible to form an educated opinion with so many opposing points of view and so much conflicting data. Cars have gotten a lot less pollutive and a lot of people are very green and earth conscious, so maybe that has had a small impact? No doubt we need to take better care of our planet, our home, regardless of what all these conflicting reports suggest. Nature is awesome and we need to care for it-that's my little tree-hugging rant for the day.

    Fuckin Al Gore, awesome dude too. First he invented the internet, then he fixed global warming.
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    JUNEAU, Alaska (AP) — A federal wildlife biologist whose observation in 2004 of presumably drowned polar bears in the Arctic helped to galvanize the global warming movement has been placed on administrative leave and is being investigated for scientific misconduct, possibly over the veracity of that article.

    Charles Monnett, an Anchorage-based scientist with the U.S. Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement, or BOEMRE, was told July 18 that he was being put on leave, pending results of an investigation into "integrity issues." But he has not yet been informed by the inspector general's office of specific charges or questions related to the scientific integrity of his work, said Jeff Ruch, executive director of Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility.

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    I think the whole Global Warming thing is falling apart. 1st you had ClimateGate where NOAA employees potentially violated federal contract law and engaged in data manipulation.
    Mann's deleted e-mails and "Hcokey Stick" was proven to be false.
    Now all this sh*t.
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