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    Scientists have created more than 150 human-animal hybrid embryos in British laboratories.

    The hybrids have been produced secretively over the past three years by researchers looking into possible cures for a wide range of diseases.

    The revelation comes just a day after a committee of scientists warned of a nightmare ‘Planet of the Apes’ scenario in which work on human-animal creations goes too far.

    Last night a campaigner against the excesses of medical research said he was disgusted that scientists were ‘dabbling in the grotesque’.

    Figures seen by the Daily Mail show that 155 ‘admixed’ embryos, containing both human and animal genetic material, have been created since the introduction of the 2008 Human Fertilisation Embryology Act.
    This legalised the creation of a variety of hybrids, including an animal egg fertilised by a human sperm; ‘cybrids’, in which a human nucleus is implanted into an animal cell; and ‘chimeras’, in which human cells are mixed with animal embryos.

    Scientists say the techniques can be used to develop embryonic stem cells which can be used to treat a range of incurable illnesses.
    Three labs in the UK – at King’s College London, Newcastle University and Warwick University – were granted licences to carry out the research after the Act came into force.

    All have now stopped creating hybrid embryos due to a lack of funding, but scientists believe that there will be more such work in the future.

    The figure was revealed to crossbench peer Lord Alton following a Parliamentary question.

    Last night he said: ‘I argued in Parliament against the creation of human- animal hybrids as a matter of principle. None of the scientists who appeared before us could give us any justification in terms of treatment.

    ‘Ethically it can never be justifiable – it discredits us as a country. It is dabbling in the grotesque.

    ‘At every stage the justification from scientists has been: if only you allow us to do this, we will find cures for every illness known to mankind. This is emotional blackmail.

    ‘Of the 80 treatments and cures which have come about from stem cells, all have come from adult stem cells – not embryonic ones.
    ‘On moral and ethical grounds this fails; and on scientific and medical ones too.’

    Josephine Quintavalle, of pro-life group Comment on Reproductive Ethics, said: ‘I am aghast that this is going on and we didn’t know anything about it.

    ‘Why have they kept this a secret? If they are proud of what they are doing, why do we need to ask Parliamentary questions for this to come to light?

    ‘The problem with many scientists is that they want to do things because they want to experiment. That is not a good enough rationale.’

    Earlier this week, a group of leading scientists warned about ‘Planet of the Apes’ experiments. They called for new rules to prevent lab animals being given human attributes, for example by injecting human stem cells into the brains of primates.

    But the lead author of their report, Professor Robin Lovell-Badge, from the Medical Research Council’ s National Institute for Medical Research, said the scientists were not concerned about human-animal hybrid embryos because by law these have to be destroyed within 14 days.

    He said: ‘The reason for doing these experiments is to understand more about early human development and come up with ways of curing serious diseases, and as a scientist I feel there is a moral imperative to pursue this research.

    ‘As long as we have sufficient controls – as we do in this country – we should be proud of the research.’

    However, he called for stricter controls on another type of embryo research, in which animal embryos are implanted with a small amount of human genetic material.

    Human-animal hybrids are also created in other countries, many of which have little or no regulation.
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    "Figures seen by the Daily Mail..."


    At this point, I stopped taking the article seriously.


    One point to consider, before we freak out over a looming attack by an angry slave-race of monkey-men, many animal species can do things which humans cannot, but would like to. Sharks, for example, appear to be immune to cancer. Scientific studies like this are about curing diseases like that.







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    You've obviously never seen the movie Splice, Bullwinkle.



    Really though, I have absolute faith in the ethics of modern medicine. :choke:

    Do a google search for "pepsi aborted fetus".

    Mmmmmm, tastes so good.
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    from 2008

    Britain's first human-animal hybrid embryos have been created, forming a crucial first step, scientists believe, towards a supply of stem cells that could be used to investigate debilitating and so far untreatable conditions such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's and motor neurone disease.

    Lyle Armstrong, who led the work, gained permission in January from the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HFEA) to create the embryos, known as "cytoplasmic hybrids".

    His team at Newcastle University produced the embryos by inserting human DNA from a skin cell into a hollowed-out cow egg. An electric shock then induced the hybrid embryo to grow. The embryo, 99.9% human and 0.1% other animal, grew for three days, until it had 32 cells.

    Eventually, scientists hope to grow such embryos for six days, and then extract stem cells from them. The researchers insisted the embryos would never be implanted into a woman and that the only reason they used cow eggs was due to the scarcity of human eggs.

    The team's success comes days after Gordon Brown was forced to give MPs a free vote on the human fertilisation and embryology bill, which has faced condemnation from Catholic bishops. Cardinal Keith O'Brien used his Easter sermon to denounce what he called experiments of "Frankenstein proportion" and called the bill a "monstrous attack on human rights, human dignity and human life".

    Catholics object to the idea of putting human and animal DNA in the same entity and to the notion of creating what they regard as a life for the purposes of research, a life that will then be destroyed.

    John Burn, head of the Institute of Human Genetics at Newcastle University, said the embryos had been created purely for research. He told the BBC's Six O'Clock News last night: "If you look down the microscope it looks like semolina and it stays like that. It's never going to be anything other than a pile of cells. What it does is give us the tools to find out the simple questions: how can we better understand the disease processes by working with those cells in the body?"

    The research has not yet been published, but the team plans to submit the work for peer review in the coming months. Other scientists welcomed the work but also urged caution in interpreting the results.

    Colin Blakemore, a former head of the Medical Research Council, said: "The creation of hybrid embryos is not illegal and researchers in Newcastle and London were granted provisional licences for such research in January, after extensive consultation by the HFEA ... This research is at a very early stage and no results have been peer-reviewed or published.

    "However, these preliminary reports give hope that this approach is likely to provide stem cells for research without the use of human eggs or normal human embryos. The new bill is intended to confirm the arrangements for regulation of this important area of research."

    Mark Walport, director of the Wellcome Trust, agreed that it was too early to assess the significance of the results. "The aim of the research is to advance human health," he said. "This work emphasises the importance of the parliamentary scrutiny of this area of research over the coming weeks."

    Peter Andrews, professor of biomedical science at the University of Sheffield's Centre for Stem Cell Biology, said: "The production of embryos by transferring the nucleus of an adult human cell to a human egg ... has already proved very difficult, let alone combining a human nucleus with an animal egg. Apparently these researchers have achieved some success - but by using the nucleus from a very early embryonic cell, which might be easier to reprogramme than an adult cell. At the moment it is impossible to assess the significance of this report until we know more details of what has been achieved ... the results have been repeated and, importantly, they have been reviewed by independent researchers in the usual way."

    Josephine Quintavalle, of the pressure group Comment on Reproductive Ethics, said the research should not worry those opposed to hybrid embryos because the Newcastle work did not seem convincing. "The embryos didn't survive, they were created from embryonic stem cells rather than adult tissue, and there's a lot of question marks over the research."

    But she added: "What it has done is wake up the public to this reality, that while parliament is getting in a tizz about this, while the whole country is up in arms discussing it, the HFEA is already issuing licences."

    Evan Harris, the Liberal Democrat MP who led a campaign to ensure that research on human-animal hybrids was not banned by parliament said: "Creating these sort of cytoplasmic hybrid embryos was deemed legal and legitimate under the 1990 HFEA Act and the 2001 Therapeutic Cloning Regulations by both the HFEA and by the science select committee, and was approved on that basis by the HFEA after a public consultation and after approval by a further unanimous select committee report. Therefore it is wrong to say that this is pre-empting parliamentary debate or votes on the new legislation in this area - the statutory framework is being updated."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wruff_ajax View Post
    You've obviously never seen the movie Splice, Bullwinkle.



    Really though, I have absolute faith in the ethics of modern medicine. :choke:

    Do a google search for "pepsi aborted fetus".

    Mmmmmm, tastes so good.
    WTF?!?!

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    Armstrong's team at Newcastle University produced the embryos by inserting human DNA from a skin cell into a hollowed-out cow egg. An electric shock then induced the hybrid embryo to grow.

    ... Cardinal Keith O'Brien used his Easter sermon to denounce what he called experiments of "Frankenstein proportion" and called the bill a "monstrous attack on human rights, human dignity and human life". Catholics object to the idea of putting human and animal DNA in the same entity..


    Lamb Born With Human Head

    Izmar, Turkey – A still-born lamb with a human-like face was born in a village not far from Izmar, Turkey.

    A cesarean section was performed on the mother by 29-year-old veterinarian Erthan Elibol, who was shocked to see the lamb with human characteristics such as a nose, eyes, and a mouth.

    “I’ve seen mutations with cows and sheep before. I’ve seen a one-eyed calf, a two-headed calf, a five-legged calf. But when I saw this youngster I could not believe my eyes. His mother could not deliver him so I had to help the animal,” the 29-year-old veterinary said.

    The lamb’s head had human features on – the eyes, the nose and the mouth – only the ears were those of a sheep.
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    After all, at least scientists are not creating human/animal hybrid creatures, right?

    Wrong.

    The truth is that human/pig hybrid creatures will soon be legally grown inside of the United States.

    This is being publicly announced and almost nobody is getting upset about it.

    What is being described as a "cutting edge" new program will actually produce pigs with human genes in them. These hybrid pigs will be "grown" in order to produce organs for transplants into humans.

    Does this bother you?

    Perhaps it would bother you more if you knew exactly where these pigs are to be grown.

    In Missouri.

    That's right - human/pig hybrids are going to be raised right in the middle of the United States.

    So is it possible that such creatures could end up in our food supply?

    No?

    You don't think they would ever do that to us?

    Don't be so sure.

    The FDA has already announced that the offspring of cloned animals could be in our food supply right now and that there is nothing that they can do about it.

    Of course they have plenty of time to conduct military style raids of Amish farmers, but apparently they have no time to figure out if our food supply is tainted by cloned animals.

    Yes, this is really happening.

    In fact, the FDA has said that it is basically a non-issue to them.

    Of course most Americans eat tomatoes with roach genes in them and most Americans eat corn with insecticide grown inside of it on a regular basis, so why should we get upset about what is in our meat?

    So does any of this seem incredibly evil to you?

    It should.

    That is because all of this is incredibly evil.

    Creating bizarre hybrid creatures is not a new thing.

    Did you know that the 3000 year old book of Jasher (a book of ancient history that is quoted in the Biblical books of Joshua and II Samuel) speaks of genetic engineering that was going on in the days of Noah?

    It is true. How they did it remains a great unexplained mystery, but according to ancient sources this is apparently what was going on.

    Jasher 4:18 tells us this....

    "and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord"

    According to the book of Jasher, God was not pleased at all that they were corrupting the wonderful environment that He had created for all of us.

    This mixing of animals is also reflected in the ancient book of Enoch. The book of Enoch is directly quoted by the book of Jude in the New Testament, and it tells us a great deal about what was going on in the world before the Flood. Enoch 7:14 tells us this....

    And they began to sin against birds, beasts, reptiles, and fish, to eat their flesh one after another, and to drink their blood.

    So apparently they were not only mixing animals together - they were eating them too.

    Just like we are starting to do.

    But instead of learning the lessons of the past we are making the same mistakes.

    We think that we are so "technologically advanced", but the reality is that we are just indulging in the same foolishness as they did in the ancient world.

    So what is so wrong with genetic modification?

    The truth is that once you let the genie out of the bottle you can't put it back in.

    We have found that out with genetically modified crops. Natural strains can literally be bred into extinction once strains of genetically modified crops become widespread enough.

    We may think that we are improving the environment through our reckless experimentation, but what if our best efforts go horribly, horribly wrong?

    The unintended consequences of our reckless genetic meddling may be far worse than any of us ever imagined.

    The reality is that God said not to mix plants and animals together like this.

    But we are doing it anyway.

    Hopefully we are not completely destroying the one and only earth that we have in the process.
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    Proof this has been going on for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wruff_ajax View Post


    Lamb Born With Human Head

    Izmar, Turkey – A still-born lamb with a human-like face was born in a village not far from Izmar, Turkey.

    A cesarean section was performed on the mother by 29-year-old veterinarian Erthan Elibol, who was shocked to see the lamb with human characteristics such as a nose, eyes, and a mouth.

    “I’ve seen mutations with cows and sheep before. I’ve seen a one-eyed calf, a two-headed calf, a five-legged calf. But when I saw this youngster I could not believe my eyes. His mother could not deliver him so I had to help the animal,” the 29-year-old veterinary said.

    The lamb’s head had human features on – the eyes, the nose and the mouth – only the ears were those of a sheep.
    this takes the term "an animal lover" a bit too far...
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    this takes the term "an animal lover" a bit too far...
    Yup. I don't think this was science. Just a drunk guy with a pair of velcro gloves.
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