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    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - California Governor Jerry Brown signed into law on Monday a bill allowing illegal immigrants to receive privately funded scholarships to attend the state's public colleges and universities.

    The bill, dubbed the California Dream Act, passed the state Legislature earlier this month and aims at helping illegal immigrants who earned a diploma after attending at least three years of high school in the state.

    Enactment of the California measure came three days after opponents of a similar law in Maryland collected enough signatures to force a state referendum seeking its repeal.

    "At the end of the day, if we're going to continue as a powerful, equal-opportunity society, we're going to have to invest in our people," Brown, a Democrat, said at the signing ceremony in the library of a Los Angeles community college.

    The California law is named after national legislation in Congress to give young, undocumented immigrants who have lived in the United States for at least five years a pathway to citizenship through college or military service.

    The federal bill failed to win passage in December 2010, and its chances have dimmed since a newly elected Republican majority took control of the House of Representatives.

    Critics say the California Dream Act gives illegal immigrants a false promise because their status will not change after graduating from college and they will remain unable to find legal employment. Former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, vetoed an earlier version of the bill last year.

    But Julian Rivera, 20, a student at the University of California at Berkeley who entered the United States illegally with his parents at age 12 from Mexico, said the measure could make it easier those like him to afford to stay in school.

    "It doesn't matter where you come from, it doesn't matter what your background is, it just matters that you have passion for something and you want to do it," he said. "This is a country that has given us that freedom."

    OPPOSING "THE DREAM"

    Patrick McDonough, a Republican member of the Maryland House of Delegates who helped lead the petition drive for the repeal initiative there, said U.S. citizens who are struggling to pay for college should not have to compete with illegal immigrants for scarce financial resources.

    "People would say, 'Why should we, when we're having tough economic times ourselves, pay for someone who is here illegally?'" he said.

    The new California law is fairly limited in scope, making undocumented students who qualify eligible for private scholarships. A separate bill under consideration in the legislature would allow illegal immigrants to seek publicly funded scholarships as well.

    State law already allows illegal immigrants who qualify for admission to a four-year state university to pay in-state tuition rather than the more expensive out-of-state tuition rate. But four-year institutions are still beyond reach for many undocumented students without financial aid.

    Twelve other states also grant in-state tuition eligibility to illegal immigrants based on attendance and graduation from a state high school, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

    Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, South Carolina and Indiana have laws barring illegal immigrants from in-state tuition benefits.

    Passage of legislation in California and Maryland to extend private scholarships to illegal immigrants comes as a number of states, led by Arizona, have taken steps to crack down on the undocumented.

    "You're going to see the red states go more the Arizona approach and blue states the California Dream Act approach," said John Skrentny, director of the Center for Comparative Immigration Studies at University of California, San Diego.
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    Maryland has put its Dream Act on hold b/c it is going to be voted on at the next election by the voters of this great state
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    I'm sorry but I don't 'get' this at all - 'rewarding' illegal immigrants is basically being proposed rather than kicking them out of the country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    "At the end of the day, if we're going to continue as a powerful, equal-opportunity society, we're going to have to invest in our people," Brown, a Democrat, said at the signing ceremony in the library of a Los Angeles community college.
    I'm all for investing in "our" people, but these are typically Mexico's people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dibblekins View Post
    I'm sorry but I don't 'get' this at all - 'rewarding' illegal immigrants is basically being proposed rather than kicking them out of the country?
    If you would just free your extremist, racist, homophobic, intolerant, hate filled mind this would all start to make sense to you!

    Seriously, in what other country in the world can someone, who is in that country illegally, give an interview to a national news site complete with his name and the college he attends without any fear of deportation or repercussions?

    We have officially lost our minds!

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    "At the end of the day, if we're going to continue as a powerful, equal-opportunity society, we're going to have to invest in our people," Brown, a Democrat, said at the signing ceremony..


    That statement is so unbelievably f'd up and indefensible. Traitor.
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    "LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - California Governor Jerry Brown signed into law on Monday a bill allowing illegal immigrants to receive privately funded scholarships to attend the state's public colleges and universities."


    Privately funded, not state-funded. It's fine with me. I don't like laws telling me what to do with my own money.







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    Whoops - well, MD's referendum next election is for state-funded scholarships, my bad.
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    The only education I am really OK with America "helping" illegal immigrants on is speaking English. If you can pass an English as a FIRST language course, perhaps you may be worthy of someday denouncing the shitsmelling fly ridden fuckhole you fled and giving America your sole allegiance. Otherwise go fuck yourself, you stole an opportunity that was destined for an honest, decent law-abiding immigrant that respected this country and it's taxpaying citizens enough to comply with OUR laws and not your desires. Furthermore when you get here, leave your culture at the door... we don't boil and eat dogs here, ride on the top of busses, cover our women in black fabric from head to toe, remove their clitoris, or pack 18 people into a bedroom(unless there is a camera, film and nudity).
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    Quote Originally Posted by shamalama View Post
    The only education I am really OK with America "helping" illegal immigrants on is speaking English. If you can pass an English as a FIRST language course, perhaps you may be worthy of someday denouncing the shitsmelling fly ridden fuckhole you fled and giving America your sole allegiance. Otherwise go fuck yourself, you stole an opportunity that was destined for an honest, decent law-abiding immigrant that respected this country and it's taxpaying citizens enough to comply with OUR laws and not your desires. Furthermore when you get here, leave your culture at the door... we don't boil and eat dogs here, ride on the top of busses, cover our women in black fabric from head to toe, remove their clitoris, or pack 18 people into a bedroom(unless there is a camera, film and nudity).
    And remember, respect the locals. It is because of us that this country rules....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullwinkle View Post
    Wow. You sound like a real American. What tribe are you from?
    The one that pays all the taxes, cochese.....
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    Cochise.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullwinkle View Post
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    Once again, government stealing money and giving it to people to whom it does not belong. Normal operating procedure. And people wonder why we r going broke...ha

 

 

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