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    Default "When it's Love" is #4 on Cracked.com's "Rock Classics That Suck."

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    #4 "When It's Love" by Van Halen

    I put this song here for two reasons: 1) Because it really, really sucks; and 2) as my personal apology to David Lee Roth. Let me explain:


    When I was a small boy, Van Halen were rock gods. Jump and Panama were massive hits and Davie Lee Roth was everywhere with his ass-shaking antics and over the top smarm. When Van Halen broke up, Eddie Van Halen did an excellent job of vilifying Diamond Dave just as he would do with Sammy Hagar years later. I realize now that this is mostly likely because Eddie Van Halen is a douchebag, but at the time, I listened to every word. And I heard all these stories about how Eddie wanted to grow as an artist and do serious compositions, but that Dave just cared about goofing off and screaming over records.

    So I welcomed Sammy Hagar as the new lead singer of Van Halen, and it seemed like Eddie was right because the new Van Halen was more earnest and the new Davie Lee Roth was like an exercise in self-parody. But by the time When It's Love came out on the OU812 album, I realized something that apparently David Lee Roth knew all along:

    Van Halen's music is not supposed to be taken seriously.

    Eddie Van Halen may be one of the greatest guitarists in rock history, but his compositions sure are all things cheesy. Van Halen NEEDS a frontman like David Lee Roth who gets what makes music fun.

    Roth knew exactly who he was and what Van Halen was and with him at the helm they were one of the most entertaining hard rock acts of all time. While Sammy Hagar's vocals are fine (indeed, on a technical level he's a more talented vocalist than Roth) without all of Roth's shtick, you're just left with Eddie's keyboard-laden compositions. Listen up and tell me this song isn't every bit as wimpy as Winger. And that whole Beatlesesque-Little Help From My Friends lead vocal, backing vocal Q and A is just disturbingly awful for a band that's supposed to kick ass.

    Mr. Roth, I apologize for ever doubting you. Forgive me.






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    Everyone has their opinions. I think When it's Love is a great song and has stood the test of time rather well.

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    With the exception of #1, I disagree with the entire list and his entire previous one as well.

    But hey, I'm sure there's a reason he's writing about this stuff rather than creating it. Enjoy listening to your Insane Clown Posse or whatever, doucheweed.
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    One of my fav VH songs and videos
    I SURVIVED TEXAS LINKERS WEEKEND I, II, III, IV and VI and VII.barely made it to VIII time to slow down
    I musta had a broken middle finger for V
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    One of my favorite Sammy era songs.....OU812 IMO was better than 5150 although the album as a whole sounded a bit thin sonically. But Al's drums were much better....I couldn't stand the electronic drums on 5150. I never really liked the production quality of 5150. Ed's guitars didn't sound right to me, and Al's drums sucked.

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    Lists...

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    He's entitled to his opinion - even if it is complete bollocks, which it most definitely is.
    I'm FEMALE...Deal with it!

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    "You spend the first part of your life trying to make your mark, and the second part just trying to cover up your tracks"... Weesfreewheelin, 2012

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    This is an outrage. It should have been number 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jroundy5150 View Post
    One of my favorite Sammy era songs.....OU812 IMO was better than 5150 although the album as a whole sounded a bit thin sonically. But Al's drums were much better....I couldn't stand the electronic drums on 5150. I never really liked the production quality of 5150. Ed's guitars didn't sound right to me, and Al's drums sucked.
    Always thought that OU812 was severely lacking in the bass dept.
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    All i have to say to that is...

    Na Na Na Na Na Na
    Na Na Na Na Na Na

    I always thought Ed's solo was really cool on that song.

    Even though i listen to the DLR era more over all.
    When Its Love isnt a song i skip or sigh and say DAMN IT!!!
    when i have the Sammy years playing on my computor or MP3.

    Its not there best,but its far from there worst,which VH has
    very little of no matter what era you happen to be listing to
    at the time,hence why they are...
    THE MIGHTY VAN HALEN
    Love without affection,is hate without the pain.
    Life is a connection,seperate from the brain

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHwasCoolestWithDLR View Post
    This is an outrage. It should have been number 1.



    I think it's funny that it took him until OU812's "When It's Love" to sour on Van Hagar. Evidently he wasn't the least bit phased by "Why Can't This Be Love" off their debut.

    And then he also rips on Eat 'Em and Smile. What a tool.
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    One of my favs. More to do with a Die Hard Roth fan fans bitterness over Roth being out for so long and sinking so so low..

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    Fuck that guy. It's a great song. One of the top Sam era tunes. Easily one of the best videos too.

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    one of my least favourites from the Hagar era (and I haven't heard 'em all). However, the list is invalidated by his inclusion of "Start Me Up".

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007 View Post
    one of my least favourites from the Hagar era (and I haven't heard 'em all). However, the list is invalidated by his inclusion of "Start Me Up".
    I think the list invalidated by the fact that he works for cracked.com.
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