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    Default Q&A with Sammy Hagar autobiography author Joel Selvin

    http://www.vhnd.com/2011/04/26/qa-wi...lvin/#comments
    Interesting comments here regarding this interview with Joel.

    A guy named Adam posted some notes from his take on the book. I have not read the book, but I think I'll go buy it now and do a little research for my self.
    Here is Adam's post:
    1. I’m a longtime fan of BOTH VH singers and longtime commenter at VHND. I thought I knew Sammy before this book came out, but I simply can not believe how much he lies in the book! Is he lying about Eddie? I don’t know because I wasn’t there. All the lies that I spotted are lies that any knowledgeable fan could spot. He is shamelessly rewriting history. I have numbered the lies I spotted below:
    1) Page 54: “…the first Montrose album has sold more than 4 million records over the years.” According to the RIAA, it’s certified just ONE million. (Worldwide sales are barely more than USA sales for all Hagar’s albums).
    2) PAGE 78: “I sold out the Oakland Coliseum that Fourth of July” [1980]. He fails to mention that he was on the bill with 4 other bands, three of which were hugely popular at the time: Blue Oyster Cult, REO Speedwagen, and Triumph, (and also Randy Hanson). Hagar conveniently implies he sold it out by himself.
    3) PAGE 80: [In 1982]: “We went out on tour, headlining arenas, double nights in a lot of places.” From my years working in concert promotion at Electric Factory in Philly in the ’80?s (a huge concert promoter back then), I have the list of Sammy’s 1982 tour dates straight from Pollstar. There was only ONE city listed where he played twice: San Francisco. Again, he is lying through his fake teeth.
    4-7) Page 90 contains one incredible paragraph that is the biggest pile of bullshit I’ve ever read relating to Van Halen in my life!:
    “The tour for VOA was my most successful. I sold out arenas everywhere, two, three, or four nights some places, one of the top grossing tours in 1984–right up there with Van Halen, who broke at the same time with “Jump” and all that. I remember getting an award in Portland, Oregon. I sold out two nights and got the Show of the year. Van Halen was runner-up. We were neck-and-neck on the road. My album was 1.6 million, but they ended up selling 10 million records.”
    4) “VAN HALEN “BROKE” WITH JUMP IN 1984?? How he belittles VH’s earlier success! I was under the impression that they broke in 1978, when they exploded with their earth-shattering debut, rewriting the rules for rock music and sold 2 million copies right out of the gate! Ed was winning every guitar player award in site. In only their first year, VH far eclipsed everything that Montrose & Hagar ever did. Everyone was talking about VH in ’78, and NO ONE was talking about Hagar or Montrose.
    5) “I SOLD OUT ARENAS EVERYWHERE, TWO, THREE, FOUR NIGHTS IN SOME PLACES, ONE OF THE TOP GROSSING TOURS IN 1984–RIGHT UP THERE WITH VAN HALEN”.
    Wow. With this statement, Hagar completely abandons any mindset that the “truth” is sacred. He is SHAMELESSLY rewriting history here. VAN HALEN was the monster that was selling out multiple arenas, not him! Hagar COULDN’T EVEN PLAY most cities on the east coast because he simply wasn’t popular over there. Hagar could sell out arenas in the midwest and in California, and that’s practically it. His VOA tour was his biggest tour ever, yet he played ONE night in each city except for places where he was big, such as St. Louis, Dallas, and San Fran, where he played two nights. He was playing ONE night in virtually every city (not 2-4), and overall, he played smaller venues than where VH was booked, and sold far less tickets in those venues. The VH tour was a 100% sell-out virtually everywhere, and on the other hand, Hagar had plenty of cities where he could only sell 30%-50% of the tickets, even after “I Can’t Drive 55″.
    6) “We [VH & his band in 1984] were neck-and-neck on the road.” On what planet? Anyone who was alive during the ’80′s knows that Van Halen was infinitely more popular than Hagar. Perhaps Hagar was the only person on EARTH who didn’t see it that way. In 1984, Van Halen was through the stratosphere – their tour absolutely dwarfed all other rock band’s tours, especially Hagar’s.
    7) “I remember getting an award in Portland, Oregon. I sold out two nights and got the Show of the Year.” Again, from my years working in concert promotion, I have here Sammy’s 1982 tour dates. He played ONE night in Portland, Oregon, on 3/19/82, at the Memorial Coliseum. The dates before and after were both in Washington. No other Portland dates.
    8 ) Page 113: “Before I joined the band, Van Halen didn’t have a particularly tight show. Roth would talk. They’d do another song. Ed would play a 20 minute guitar solo. They would do another song. Roth would talk some more, another song, Al would do a drum solo for 30 minutes. On the 1984 tour…they were doing 8 songs in a 2 hour show. They ended every song the same way.”
    Any fan who reads this who either saw Van Halen before Sammy joined, or owns ANY amount of old Van Halen bootlegs, knows that every single thing Sammy said in that paragraph is complete bullshit. EVH’s solo was always around 10 minutes. Alex’s was always 3-4 minutes. They always did 16 songs, not counting solos. VH was a well-oiled machine, a stellar production, and tightly choreographed – the exact opposite of what Sam describes. Again, he is shamelessly rewriting history to try to diminish what Van Halen was before he joined.
    9) Page 121: “The record [Sammy's solo album "I Never Said Goodbye"] went platinum immediately.”
    As of today, 4/26/11, it has only been certified Gold status w/ the RIAA.
    10) Page 122: “We [VH in 1986] were selling out four nights in arenas anywhere.” Although the 5150 tour was a smashing success, and they occasionally would sell 2, 3 or even 4 nights in certain cities, the band played ONE night vast majority of cities. Also, the 5150 tour wasn’t as big as the 1984 tour, which had the band playing one additional night in several cities than they were on the 5150 tour.
    11) Page 173: “The fans went against Roth. He died a quick death as a solo artist.” [When he went solo in 1985]
    I would say that most current VH fans are under the impression that Hagar’s solo career has been more successful than Roth’s. However, if you want to measure the success with ALBUM SALES, Roth’s solo career has actually been more successful than Hagar’s! Roth’s first 3 albums went Platinum (Crazy From The Heat in ’85, Eat ‘EM And Smile in ’86, and Skyscraper in ’87). Hagar, however, never had could match that success – he never had 3 consecutive Platinum solo albums… just 3 consecutive GOLD albums, and then later in 1987 released another one that only went gold, with the help of Eddie playing bass. Hagar’s solo career simply was never as big as Roth’s was in the ’80′s. Roth was consistently platinum, while Hagar was consistently gold.
    12) Page 222: When Irving Azoff told Hagar that the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame wanted to induct Van Halen, but only the Roth-version of the band, Hagar says, “I went nuts on Irving. I was in the band longer than Roth. He was in Van Halen seven years. I was with them eleven years. I sold more records than he did. How could they do that to me?”
    He is wrong on both counts. Roth was in VH for 12 years (’74-’85) and VH sold twice as many albums with Roth than with Hagar. (See RIAA.com).
    13) Page 234: Sammy says that, before he joined VH, “I was selling out multiple arenas, had five platinum albums in a row on Geffen, and I was ripe to join Van Halen when they asked…”
    I already went over the “multiple arenas” bull. As for “5 platinum albums in a row on Geffen”? He had only 3 Geffen albums, and none were platinum:
    1981 Standing Hampton – Gold as of 1985.
    1982 Three Lock Box – Gold to this day.
    1984 V.O.A. – Gold as of mid-1985.
    Those are all the major lies that I can detect, just as a fan. I can’t even imagine how many more lies are in the book that the fans would have no way of detecting.
    Hagar wants all the fans to think that he was hugely successful BEFORE he joined VH, as if joining them wasn’t necessarily the thing that catapulted his career. In countless interviews, he states that his solo albums were going platinum before VH.
    This is all a lie. In reality, NONE of his solo albums went platinum by the time he joined VH in mid 1985. Sure, as of 2011, 3 of his albums have gone platinum (Montrose, Standing Hampton, and V.O.A.). But Hampton didn’t go platinum ’till 1992, V.O.A. didn’t go platinum until Nov. ’85, and Montrose didn’t until many years later, either.
    YES, Hagar was (moderately) successful before VH, and good for him!! Why can’t he just be satisfied with the success that he truly DID have and just be HONEST about everything in his book? It’s because his ego and his insecurity can’t handle the truth.
    Sammy’s all about HIMSELF. He belittles Roth and Eddie to try to seem better than them. He belittles the legacy that Roth, Ed, Al, & Mike created together, just to make HIS years in VH seem better. I find his behavior disgusting and immoral. Nothing outside of HIMSELF is sacred to him, and certainly not Van Halen! Ironically, his very own autobiography shattered my respect of him.
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    It's not new that Sammy always seems to say things the way he wants the people to see things.

    Many of Sam's points are wrong and to us VH fans are obvious but for the general public this lies are going to be TRUE, like when he says that VH with him has sold more albums than with Dave.
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    WOLFGANG did the IMPOSSIBLE, he brought back VAN HALEN, DEAL WITH IT.

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    Well that settles it. Sammy should be impeached.










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    Picked up on those mistruths and made mention of them in the Sammy book thread myself. I'm just not sure why this guy is so angry about it. How can you take something so personally that has nothing to do with you? It's kinda like the people who get emotionally involved with professional wrestling.

    I do enjoy that every person who bashes Sam tries to tell you that they love his music and his time in VH but within a paragraph you get this, "he is lying through his fake teeth" which betrays his true feelings. He did avoid calling him fat which shows some restraint, I guess.
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    Do you think Adam's review would have been more favorable if Hagar were to pimp flip-flops?

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    Good post ScottyB. I pointed out similar observations but with less
    examples and detail. Was pretty much insulted for pointing it out.

    Sam does make things up and exaggerates to boost himself.
    Some say that's human nature. I don't buy into that one bit.
    Sam has had respectable success, I think he would be much
    better served to be a straight shooter and cut out the extensive
    bs he seems to naturally feel the need to say.

    Ultimately I think his insecurities may come from his fked up father
    and family life. Also I think despite his talents and successes he has
    a chip on his shoulder over the true popularity of VH before him
    and Dave's importance to the band..in their history and as seen by
    the masses, despite Sam's tenure in the band.

    Posted from mobile device.

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    Heavens to Murgatroyd!!!

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    And he STILL hasn't shown his birth certificate, has he???... HAS HE?!?...
    Sings like a bird. Rocks like a pig.

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    So what should we call folks that have a passion for unearthing Sam's little white lies?

    Fib finders?

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    I'm not excusing Sam, but my guess is some of that info regarding sales, and attendance may very well be what he was led to believe.
    You gotta keep in mind that a managers job is to keep up morale and feed their ego. This is quite a possibility he was told these things to keep everything positive,bankable, and to put an up spin on the grueling tour schedule. Take a look at the years in VH with Ed Leffler. A lot of people would accuse him of creating an impractical isolating bubble around the band...In fact journalist like Matt Resnicoff called Eddie Van Halen out on it....defying him to get out beyond the VH machine and expand beyond the band, and Eddie basically freaked out, and got real out of sorts and evasive because he was used to only dealing with preselected press outlets...but then look at how VH disintegrated after Leffler's death.
    With a completely different (some would say lacking) management style, all of a sudden they were exposed to the very brutal reality of the business, and life outside the safety net. Unfiltered critisism (though pretty tough to avoid in the internet age now, but still far less readily available in their hayday).
    This is hugely true of sports icons as well. They're fed a steady dose of semi-truths and outright bullshit in the name of success; not just the band etc. but the managements/manager's as well.

    So aside from the points were he got the dates wrong, unless he was going over all the books day in day out...I doubt he could possibly know all the facts for certain....just what he was led to believe.
    ...That said....Sam is Sam though. haha. He's a master at self promotion!

    Like Joe Walsh says in Life's Been Good:" I have accountants pay for it all..."

    As far as the Eddie stuff in the book, I doubt he was lying. I mean basically his descriptions of events played out publicly in one form or another, from the red carpet event. It fits Sammy's description to a T with that photo, his run in with a person at the airport who Ed thought was taking a photo, and going off on him, to his peculiar antics onstage in '04. The Stern interview, his wacked out calls to other D.J.'s...The list goes on.
    In the end it don't matter much....It's all in the past, hopefully for good.
    If there's any upside to it, the fact these snipets are all over the web could serve as a sobering reminder to Ed what a train wreck he had become and what it cost him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyBHarris View Post
    http://www.vhnd.com/2011/04/26/qa-wi...lvin/#comments
    Interesting comments here regarding this interview with Joel.

    A guy named Adam posted some notes from his take on the book. I have not read the book, but I think I'll go buy it now and do a little research for my self.
    Here is Adam's post:
    1. I’m a longtime fan of BOTH VH singers and longtime commenter at VHND. I thought I knew Sammy before this book came out, but I simply can not believe how much he lies in the book! Is he lying about Eddie? I don’t know because I wasn’t there. All the lies that I spotted are lies that any knowledgeable fan could spot. He is shamelessly rewriting history. I have numbered the lies I spotted below:
    1) Page 54: “…the first Montrose album has sold more than 4 million records over the years.” According to the RIAA, it’s certified just ONE million. (Worldwide sales are barely more than USA sales for all Hagar’s albums).
    2) PAGE 78: “I sold out the Oakland Coliseum that Fourth of July” [1980]. He fails to mention that he was on the bill with 4 other bands, three of which were hugely popular at the time: Blue Oyster Cult, REO Speedwagen, and Triumph, (and also Randy Hanson). Hagar conveniently implies he sold it out by himself.
    3) PAGE 80: [In 1982]: “We went out on tour, headlining arenas, double nights in a lot of places.” From my years working in concert promotion at Electric Factory in Philly in the ’80?s (a huge concert promoter back then), I have the list of Sammy’s 1982 tour dates straight from Pollstar. There was only ONE city listed where he played twice: San Francisco. Again, he is lying through his fake teeth.
    4-7) Page 90 contains one incredible paragraph that is the biggest pile of bullshit I’ve ever read relating to Van Halen in my life!:
    “The tour for VOA was my most successful. I sold out arenas everywhere, two, three, or four nights some places, one of the top grossing tours in 1984–right up there with Van Halen, who broke at the same time with “Jump” and all that. I remember getting an award in Portland, Oregon. I sold out two nights and got the Show of the year. Van Halen was runner-up. We were neck-and-neck on the road. My album was 1.6 million, but they ended up selling 10 million records.”
    4) “VAN HALEN “BROKE” WITH JUMP IN 1984?? How he belittles VH’s earlier success! I was under the impression that they broke in 1978, when they exploded with their earth-shattering debut, rewriting the rules for rock music and sold 2 million copies right out of the gate! Ed was winning every guitar player award in site. In only their first year, VH far eclipsed everything that Montrose & Hagar ever did. Everyone was talking about VH in ’78, and NO ONE was talking about Hagar or Montrose.
    5) “I SOLD OUT ARENAS EVERYWHERE, TWO, THREE, FOUR NIGHTS IN SOME PLACES, ONE OF THE TOP GROSSING TOURS IN 1984–RIGHT UP THERE WITH VAN HALEN”.
    Wow. With this statement, Hagar completely abandons any mindset that the “truth” is sacred. He is SHAMELESSLY rewriting history here. VAN HALEN was the monster that was selling out multiple arenas, not him! Hagar COULDN’T EVEN PLAY most cities on the east coast because he simply wasn’t popular over there. Hagar could sell out arenas in the midwest and in California, and that’s practically it. His VOA tour was his biggest tour ever, yet he played ONE night in each city except for places where he was big, such as St. Louis, Dallas, and San Fran, where he played two nights. He was playing ONE night in virtually every city (not 2-4), and overall, he played smaller venues than where VH was booked, and sold far less tickets in those venues. The VH tour was a 100% sell-out virtually everywhere, and on the other hand, Hagar had plenty of cities where he could only sell 30%-50% of the tickets, even after “I Can’t Drive 55″.
    6) “We [VH & his band in 1984] were neck-and-neck on the road.” On what planet? Anyone who was alive during the ’80′s knows that Van Halen was infinitely more popular than Hagar. Perhaps Hagar was the only person on EARTH who didn’t see it that way. In 1984, Van Halen was through the stratosphere – their tour absolutely dwarfed all other rock band’s tours, especially Hagar’s.
    7) “I remember getting an award in Portland, Oregon. I sold out two nights and got the Show of the Year.” Again, from my years working in concert promotion, I have here Sammy’s 1982 tour dates. He played ONE night in Portland, Oregon, on 3/19/82, at the Memorial Coliseum. The dates before and after were both in Washington. No other Portland dates.
    8 ) Page 113: “Before I joined the band, Van Halen didn’t have a particularly tight show. Roth would talk. They’d do another song. Ed would play a 20 minute guitar solo. They would do another song. Roth would talk some more, another song, Al would do a drum solo for 30 minutes. On the 1984 tour…they were doing 8 songs in a 2 hour show. They ended every song the same way.”
    Any fan who reads this who either saw Van Halen before Sammy joined, or owns ANY amount of old Van Halen bootlegs, knows that every single thing Sammy said in that paragraph is complete bullshit. EVH’s solo was always around 10 minutes. Alex’s was always 3-4 minutes. They always did 16 songs, not counting solos. VH was a well-oiled machine, a stellar production, and tightly choreographed – the exact opposite of what Sam describes. Again, he is shamelessly rewriting history to try to diminish what Van Halen was before he joined.
    9) Page 121: “The record [Sammy's solo album "I Never Said Goodbye"] went platinum immediately.”
    As of today, 4/26/11, it has only been certified Gold status w/ the RIAA.
    10) Page 122: “We [VH in 1986] were selling out four nights in arenas anywhere.” Although the 5150 tour was a smashing success, and they occasionally would sell 2, 3 or even 4 nights in certain cities, the band played ONE night vast majority of cities. Also, the 5150 tour wasn’t as big as the 1984 tour, which had the band playing one additional night in several cities than they were on the 5150 tour.
    11) Page 173: “The fans went against Roth. He died a quick death as a solo artist.” [When he went solo in 1985]
    I would say that most current VH fans are under the impression that Hagar’s solo career has been more successful than Roth’s. However, if you want to measure the success with ALBUM SALES, Roth’s solo career has actually been more successful than Hagar’s! Roth’s first 3 albums went Platinum (Crazy From The Heat in ’85, Eat ‘EM And Smile in ’86, and Skyscraper in ’87). Hagar, however, never had could match that success – he never had 3 consecutive Platinum solo albums… just 3 consecutive GOLD albums, and then later in 1987 released another one that only went gold, with the help of Eddie playing bass. Hagar’s solo career simply was never as big as Roth’s was in the ’80′s. Roth was consistently platinum, while Hagar was consistently gold.
    12) Page 222: When Irving Azoff told Hagar that the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame wanted to induct Van Halen, but only the Roth-version of the band, Hagar says, “I went nuts on Irving. I was in the band longer than Roth. He was in Van Halen seven years. I was with them eleven years. I sold more records than he did. How could they do that to me?”
    He is wrong on both counts. Roth was in VH for 12 years (’74-’85) and VH sold twice as many albums with Roth than with Hagar. (See RIAA.com).
    13) Page 234: Sammy says that, before he joined VH, “I was selling out multiple arenas, had five platinum albums in a row on Geffen, and I was ripe to join Van Halen when they asked…”
    I already went over the “multiple arenas” bull. As for “5 platinum albums in a row on Geffen”? He had only 3 Geffen albums, and none were platinum:
    1981 Standing Hampton – Gold as of 1985.
    1982 Three Lock Box – Gold to this day.
    1984 V.O.A. – Gold as of mid-1985.
    Those are all the major lies that I can detect, just as a fan. I can’t even imagine how many more lies are in the book that the fans would have no way of detecting.
    Hagar wants all the fans to think that he was hugely successful BEFORE he joined VH, as if joining them wasn’t necessarily the thing that catapulted his career. In countless interviews, he states that his solo albums were going platinum before VH.
    This is all a lie. In reality, NONE of his solo albums went platinum by the time he joined VH in mid 1985. Sure, as of 2011, 3 of his albums have gone platinum (Montrose, Standing Hampton, and V.O.A.). But Hampton didn’t go platinum ’till 1992, V.O.A. didn’t go platinum until Nov. ’85, and Montrose didn’t until many years later, either.
    YES, Hagar was (moderately) successful before VH, and good for him!! Why can’t he just be satisfied with the success that he truly DID have and just be HONEST about everything in his book? It’s because his ego and his insecurity can’t handle the truth.
    Sammy’s all about HIMSELF. He belittles Roth and Eddie to try to seem better than them. He belittles the legacy that Roth, Ed, Al, & Mike created together, just to make HIS years in VH seem better. I find his behavior disgusting and immoral. Nothing outside of HIMSELF is sacred to him, and certainly not Van Halen! Ironically, his very own autobiography shattered my respect of him.
    Hagar telling lies?
    surely you jest!


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    They are not lies, they are exagerations.
    Sam likes to boast.
    He truly believe what he's saying. He's in his 60s, and hell, at 39 I sometimes forget things. Sam says Balance was released in 1993, for example. He has nothing to gain by "lying" about this. He messed up the date. You have to take it with a grain of salt. But with numbers, he'll always inflate them, you just have to know it. The initial poster Adam is a bit of an idiot. Who cares if VOA went platinum in November of 84 or November of 85. Sam's not running for President. His job is to entertain. He does his job well. Case closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    Who cares if VOA went platinum in November of 84 or November of 85. Sam's not running for President. His job is to entertain. He does his job well. Case closed.

    I think people lose sight of the fact that the guy is a singer in a band. Who gives a shit if he didn't actually sell out 3 nights in Chicago in 1983. Maybe we can bring a lawsuit against the guy.

    I don't care how many records Alice Copper sold between 1975 and 1980. I don't care if Michael Jackson had 5 or 50 number one singles. I don't care if Jerry Lee Lewis or Fats Domino was the first to cover "You Win Again". Does anyone really care except for the few on these websites whether Three Lock Box went platinum or not?

    Some guys are threatened with the idiotic notion that some random reader will go through Sam's inflated stats and say to themselves, "Wow, I guess this proves that Sam is better than Dave!" That's a paranoid fantasy.
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    This Adam guy seems like just another Rothtard who despises Sammy (because he's expected to), but spends all his time doing research on the mans career and history.

    Goof balls!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlindtotheWorld View Post
    I think people lose sight of the fact that the guy is a singer in a band. Who gives a shit if he didn't actually sell out 3 nights in Chicago in 1983. Maybe we can bring a lawsuit against the guy.

    I don't care how many records Alice Copper sold between 1975 and 1980. I don't care if Michael Jackson had 5 or 50 number one singles. I don't care if Jerry Lee Lewis or Fats Domino was the first to cover "You Win Again". Does anyone really care except for the few on these websites whether Three Lock Box went platinum or not?

    Some guys are threatened with the idiotic notion that some random reader will go through Sam's inflated stats and say to themselves, "Wow, I guess this proves that Sam is better than Dave!" That's a paranoid fantasy.
    I have not read Sam's book yet, probably will download it over the weekend. But I don't see anyone who read the book disputing what Adam posted as not being in the book.
    It does seem to me that Sammy is in fact stating he was as big as Van Halen before he joined Van Halen, and to say that Van Halen didn't make it big before "Jump" was a hit single. That's pretty fucked up.
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