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    Three-year-old treated for alcoholism in Birmingham
    Mar 13 2011 by Ben Goldby, Sunday Mercury


    A THREE year-old child has been treated for alcoholism at a Birmingham hospital. The youngster is one of thirteen children aged 12 and under who were diagnosed as alcoholic by the Heart of England NHS Trust between 2008 and 2010. The children are at serious risk of brain damage. Figures released under the Freedom of Information Act have also revealed that a further 106 teenagers, aged 13 to 16, were treated for being addicted to booze at the trust during the same period. And 74 kids aged 13-16 were admitted to A&E for emergency treatment for alcohol abuse by Heart of England medics.

    It is believed the three year-old is the youngest alcoholic in Britain. Horrified campaigners hit out when it was revealed that an eight year-old in Scotland was alcoholic last month. And the revelations that a tot five years younger is suffering from alcohol abuse in the Midlands has prompted health experts to demand immediate action to stop youngsters from drinking.

    Chris Sorek, Chief Executive of alcohol awareness charity Drinkaware, said: “Underage drinking needs to be tackled now more than ever. “Although not all young people drink, those who do are drinking earlier, more regularly and more often, putting themselves at risk. “Any child requiring hospital treatment for alcohol-related illness is a cause for great concern – not just because of the short term risks, but also the long term health problems such as disrupted brain development.”

    Alcohol Concern say underage drinking is getting worse with the number being admitted to A&E departments increasing by a third last year. West Midlands Ambulance Service responded to 1,296 alcohol-related call-outs involving under-18s in 2010 at a cost of almost £250,000 to taxpayers.

    They said more young girls were seen by ambulance crews than young boys.
    Alcohol Concern chief executive, Don Shenker, said: “As long as alcohol remains as heavily promoted as it currently is, young drinkers will continue to consume far more than they might otherwise, leading to inevitable health issues, wasting ambulance and police time. “We want all under-18-year-olds who turn up at A&E to be advised and supported to address their drinking.”
    Liberal Democrat MP Lorely Burt, whose Solihull constituency covers the Heart of England NHS Trust, has called on the Government to introduce minimum pricing on alcohol.

    “When lager is cheaper than water in supermarkets, it’s deeply worrying and we have to be concerned about what effect that has on young people and society in general,” she said. “Clearly, for children this young the cost of alcohol is particularly important and I’m backing measures to put minimum prices on drinks based on the strength of the alcohol in them.

    “It has to be stopped, and I’m hopeful we can get measures in place to tackle this soon. I’m deeply concerned about supermarkets that use these products as loss leaders.” A spokesman for the Heart of England Trust said: “We treat alcohol abuse very seriously and have specialist teams and experts on hand who are there to treat young patients with alcohol-related problems. This enables us to provide the best possible care for our patients.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy Hill View Post
    the kid's some kind of child prodigy

    Three-year-old treated for alcoholism in Birmingham
    Mar 13 2011 by Ben Goldby, Sunday Mercury


    A THREE year-old child has been treated for alcoholism at a Birmingham hospital. The youngster is one of thirteen children aged 12 and under who were diagnosed as alcoholic by the Heart of England NHS Trust between 2008 and 2010. The children are at serious risk of brain damage. Figures released under the Freedom of Information Act have also revealed that a further 106 teenagers, aged 13 to 16, were treated for being addicted to booze at the trust during the same period. And 74 kids aged 13-16 were admitted to A&E for emergency treatment for alcohol abuse by Heart of England medics.

    It is believed the three year-old is the youngest alcoholic in Britain. Horrified campaigners hit out when it was revealed that an eight year-old in Scotland was alcoholic last month. And the revelations that a tot five years younger is suffering from alcohol abuse in the Midlands has prompted health experts to demand immediate action to stop youngsters from drinking.

    Chris Sorek, Chief Executive of alcohol awareness charity Drinkaware, said: “Underage drinking needs to be tackled now more than ever. “Although not all young people drink, those who do are drinking earlier, more regularly and more often, putting themselves at risk. “Any child requiring hospital treatment for alcohol-related illness is a cause for great concern – not just because of the short term risks, but also the long term health problems such as disrupted brain development.”

    Alcohol Concern say underage drinking is getting worse with the number being admitted to A&E departments increasing by a third last year. West Midlands Ambulance Service responded to 1,296 alcohol-related call-outs involving under-18s in 2010 at a cost of almost £250,000 to taxpayers.

    They said more young girls were seen by ambulance crews than young boys.
    Alcohol Concern chief executive, Don Shenker, said: “As long as alcohol remains as heavily promoted as it currently is, young drinkers will continue to consume far more than they might otherwise, leading to inevitable health issues, wasting ambulance and police time. “We want all under-18-year-olds who turn up at A&E to be advised and supported to address their drinking.”
    Liberal Democrat MP Lorely Burt, whose Solihull constituency covers the Heart of England NHS Trust, has called on the Government to introduce minimum pricing on alcohol.

    “When lager is cheaper than water in supermarkets, it’s deeply worrying and we have to be concerned about what effect that has on young people and society in general,” she said. “Clearly, for children this young the cost of alcohol is particularly important and I’m backing measures to put minimum prices on drinks based on the strength of the alcohol in them.

    “It has to be stopped, and I’m hopeful we can get measures in place to tackle this soon. I’m deeply concerned about supermarkets that use these products as loss leaders.” A spokesman for the Heart of England Trust said: “We treat alcohol abuse very seriously and have specialist teams and experts on hand who are there to treat young patients with alcohol-related problems. This enables us to provide the best possible care for our patients.”
    Horrible news but that quote is just BS

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    Horrible news but that quote is just BS
    i would agree, there will always be cases of kids getting their hands on alcohol and there always have been, it's nothing new at all. the promotion of such drinks has nothing to do with it's consumption it's peoples attitudes and lack of education or even parents fears that cause underage drinkers to go out and get blitzed. As a youngster and coming from a polish family, i frequently had a drink at the dinner table, several infact, it was seen as part of the meal and family time, obviously we were never allowed to get steam roller drunk, i am the same with my kids today, my 14yr old daughter had a bottle of Bud with me on my birthday and she has never expressed a need to go out with her friends a drink, infact she has come home when she has found that her friends have stolen a bottle of vodka from their parents. if you take a look at the figures from countries where younger people are frequently allowed to drink over a meal or at social events under supervision of adults, the figures of children being admitted to hospital for alcohol related ailments are much lower, because theres no kudos surrounding alcohol, it's not a taboo that kids need to break, it's just part of every day life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    Horrible news but that quote is just BS
    the quote is actually 100% accurate BUT it has nothing to do with this story.

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    Isn't Ozzy from Birmingham?

    I somehow doubt a 3-year old is out buying their own alcohol, and I doubt the ads are telling parents to serve alcohol to their kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007 View Post
    Isn't Ozzy from Birmingham?

    I somehow doubt a 3-year old is out buying their own alcohol, and I doubt the ads are telling parents to serve alcohol to their kids.
    i don't think anyone said that.

    The issue here is with stupid parents.

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    well, the article mentioned a problem with how alcohol was "heavily promoted" - I don't think a 3 year old is running off to the store to buy a six-pack after seeing the Clydesdales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    i don't think anyone said that.

    The issue here is with stupid parents.
    exactly, so the promotion of the alcohol has nothing to do with it, just moronic parents or whoever is giving this kid large quantities on a daily basis. all alcohol advertising here in the U.K. comes with drink awareness warnings plastered all over them, so do the bottles and cans thay come in...everyone is aware of the effects of alcohol...promotion isnt the problem any fool can see that
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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007 View Post
    well, the article mentioned a problem with how alcohol was "heavily promoted" - I don't think a 3 year old is running off to the store to buy a six-pack after seeing the Clydesdales.
    I think this is your classic example of rolling issues together. Heavily promoting alcohol leads to teens drinkings more than they would . I think most would agree with this. However, it doesn't have a whole lot to do with the story though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007 View Post
    well, the article mentioned a problem with how alcohol was "heavily promoted" - I don't think a 3 year old is running off to the store to buy a six-pack after seeing the Clydesdales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    I think this is your classic example of rolling issues together. Heavily promoting alcohol leads to teens drinkings more than they would . I think most would agree with this. However, it doesn't have a whole lot to do with the story though.
    i think attitudes and taboo's surrounding drinking is a bigger part of the problem...kids will naturally want to do things that they're either not supposed to or aren't allowed to do at home infront of their parents, take away that taboo and you take away the appeal to go out and get smashed, look at the figures for alcoholism in places like france, where it's accepted and you'll see it's far lower than in places like the U.K. and the U.S. and i personally think it's because we have had it drummed into us for years that alcohol is evil and should be heavily restricted. i think promoting mature attitudes towards drink from an early age is key in combating the problem, i was allowed to as a kid and i rarely drink nowadays, theres nothing appealing about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommywho5150 View Post
    i think attitudes and taboo's surrounding drinking is a bigger part of the problem...kids will naturally want to do things that they're either not supposed to or aren't allowed to do at home infront of their parents, take away that taboo and you take away the appeal to go out and get smashed, look at the figures for alcoholism in places like france, where it's accepted and you'll see it's far lower than in places like the U.K. and the U.S. and i personally think it's because we have had it drummed into us for years that alcohol is evil and should be heavily restricted. i think promoting mature attitudes towards drink from an early age is key in combating the problem, i was allowed to as a kid and i rarely drink nowadays, theres nothing appealing about it.
    there could be something to that. There was always a bottle of wine at the kitchen table when I was a kid (parents are Italian) and we would often put a little bit of it in with our ginger ale. 3 kids and no drunks among us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    there could be something to that. There was always a bottle of wine at the kitchen table when I was a kid (parents are Italian) and we would often put a little bit of it in with our ginger ale. 3 kids and no drunks among us.
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    Drinking went up during prohibition, by most accounts, especially amongst women and children. Even if it stayed flat, how much advertising could have gone on for an illegal substance?

    I don't deny that advertising has an effect on people. I don't NEED an iPod, but it's definitely enticing, especially the way Apple markets it.

    But seeking out alcohol and drinking it to excess, in my opinion, has more to do with its taboo nature and the illegality for those under 21, not to mention the fact that getting a buzz, for a lot of people, is fun.

    If children are doing it so much that they get addicted, that's a parental problem, not Budweiser's.

    If In and Out stopped advertising, do you think interest in the product as well as sales would suddenly decrease? Of course not.

    But a parent can exert large amounts of control on how many times their kid eats a double double and fries--at least more so than the government can regulating how they could advertise.

    If we're going to blame binge drinking on commercials, then fuck it. Let's just stop advertising anything that might hurt you. iPods may damage your hearing. Del Taco will damage your heart. Red Robin will clog your arteries. Toyota's might accelerate. A mounted TV might fall on your head. A happy meal toy might make kids fat--oh, wait...
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