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    Default GA Representative Seeking to Make Miscarriages "Prenatal Murder"

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    ATLANTA, GA- A Georgia lawmaker is under fire for a bill some say would force women to prove a miscarriage is natural or face criminal penalties.

    Georgia State Rep. Bobby Franklin has introduced a bill that would criminalize miscarriages under certain circumstances, making abortion and miscarriage covered under the "prenatal murder" statute. According to the bill, courts could assess sentences similar to murder convictions.

    Under Rep. Franklin's bill, women who miscarry could become felons if they cannot prove that there was "no human involvement whatsoever in the causation" of their miscarriage.

    Miscarriages are estimated to terminate up to a quarter of all pregnancies and the Mayo Clinic says that "the actual number is probably much higher because many miscarriages occur so early in pregnancy that a woman doesn't even know she's pregnant. Most miscarriages occur because the fetus isn't developing normally."

    Last year Franklin, who's served in the Georgia House since 1997, proposed a law that would reclassify victims of domestic violence as "accusers."

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    Nothing like taking the trauma that a couple goes through when they miscarry and adding a whole lot of stress and needless agony.
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    Don't all miscarriages have human involvement? Fuckin wacko politician. It's just amazing what type of people get elected.
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    My wife had a miscarriage and it took her a long time to get over it. It still makes her sad sometimes.

    And Bobby Franklin would want her, in the midst of her bereavement, to provide evidence that she didn't do it on purpose, or else be prosecuted as a felon.

    Bobby, why don't you step a little closer and say that again...







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    Wow...just wow!!!

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    astonishing ............ that's just completely lacking in compassion

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    Think about it though. As insane as the bill would be, how can they possible ever prove most miscarriages occured. As the Mayo clinic mentioned, most happen when a women doesn't even realize she is pregnant. I also can't imagine OB/GYN's reporting anything if they do know a miscarriage happened. That would be a breach of the doctor/patient confidentially agreement.

    This is nothing more than some politician pandering to a select group of voters. It would be impossible to police.
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    So they're saying unless you can prove otherwise, you are assumed guilty? Kinda goes against the innocent until proven guilty, no? The onus is on the accuser to provide proof of a "crime", not on the accused to prove they didn't commit a crime.

    No matter where you stand on baby/fetal/whatever rights, I don't think you can view this as a good thing...

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    Georgia State Rep. Bobby Franklin, after a night of drinking, smoking hash, dropping acid, and watching four hours of "Jersey Shore" while smashing himself in the face with a fuckin' flaming pipe wrench, has introduced a bill that would criminalize miscarriages under certain circumstances, making abortion and miscarriage covered under the "prenatal murder" statute. According to the bill, courts could assess sentences similar to murder convictions.

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    Mr. Franklin is obviously a living miscarriage.

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    I hesitated to post anything in this thread yesterday when I read it, as it really hit a raw nerve. My ex-fiance had two miscarriages over 4 years that we were together, and although we were not trying to have a child, both experiences cut us both to the bone and left her shattered.

    This dipshit needs to be boiled in oil for being such a dumbass....
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    A miscarriage of justice if this is allowed to stand. I kinda see what he's aiming for, but just not the way to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007 View Post
    A miscarriage of justice if this is allowed to stand. I kinda see what he's aiming for, but just not the way to do it.
    Yeah, I see what he's aiming for....but its like this one woman I know comparing her two abortions to my ex's two miscarriages. I get the point that neither preganacy was planned, but one deal was where the fetus was forcecably removed whereas the other was caused by the woman's own body.


    Another place I can see this opening a whole can of worms is that, for some reason, there are some women who cannot have a baby of a given sex and their bodies will reject the fetus...so what are those women supposed to say to this idiot?
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