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    Default Is 'hot saucing' discipline, or abuse?

    When does discipline cross the line into abuse?

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    Around my house, the boys would take it as a treat, not a form of discipline.
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    I'm usually the one who rails against the pussification of today's youth and helicopter parents but I think hotsaucing goes over the line. I feel bad for that little guy. He's too young to feel that terrified.

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    Terrified? No...being terrified is being 6 years old, in the Gulf of Mexico in a 17' boat and having a waterspout less than 1/4 mile from you...that's a (early) life changing moment, right there.
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    Completley abusive.

    And if you dont think the hot sauce or cold shower part of this shit is physical abuse, there is no doubt that this is psychological abuse.

    And, I can't believe this is a question in a thread, is it or isn't it abuse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalenRules View Post
    Terrified? No...being terrified is being 6 years old, in the Gulf of Mexico in a 17' boat and having a waterspout less than 1/4 mile from you...that's a (early) life changing moment, right there.

    Dude....ummmm......WHAT??

    Where the fuck did that come from!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad View Post
    Dude....ummmm......WHAT??

    Where the fuck did that come from!?
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    i would have much rather gotten hot sauce than fuckin ivory soap in my mouth.
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    I'll take that over getting the crap knocked out of you, which is what I got!
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    Would I do that? No. I don't think I could make myself.

    I also can't condemn it though. I don't know what that little guys problem was, but I gathered it was a problem with lying. Assume the best with the Mom there though, and say she's clearly laid down the rules about no lying in the house, explained the consequences of doing it, and the kid has broken the rules. For rules to work, there have to be consequences for breaking them. The reality has to set in that your actions create reactions and results and/or consequence.

    I highly doubt that she's doing this all the time and just for fun. If she were, there's a problem there. Not knowing any more than what was shown there, I couldn't put judgment on her. If the kid has a real problem of lying, I'd rather see him learn a lesson about it now than turn in to shitball human being later. Hopefully that's the mothers intent. I don't see it as being much different than a spanking. He was never in any real danger.

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    I guess it also depends on how much is being used. If it's just enough to make the child "uncomfortable", then I don't see what the problem is - not as if it's poison or toxic. If she's putting so much in there that he's litterally blistering his mouth or vomiting, then yes, it's probably abuse at that point. Guess it depends on when you're from - if you're from the era when any type of hard surface was a righteous means of correction, then you're probably ok with this; if you are from the namby-pamby era where you think all a kid should get is a "time out" in the corner, then you're probably ready to dial Geraldo or human services or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad View Post
    Would I do that? No. I don't think I could make myself.

    I also can't condemn it though. I don't know what that little guys problem was, but I gathered it was a problem with lying. Assume the best with the Mom there though, and say she's clearly laid down the rules about no lying in the house, explained the consequences of doing it, and the kid has broken the rules. For rules to work, there have to be consequences for breaking them. The reality has to set in that your actions create reactions and results and/or consequence.

    I highly doubt that she's doing this all the time and just for fun. If she were, there's a problem there. Not knowing any more than what was shown there, I couldn't put judgment on her. If the kid has a real problem of lying, I'd rather see him learn a lesson about it now than turn in to shitball human being later. Hopefully that's the mothers intent. I don't see it as being much different than a spanking. He was never in any real danger.

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    I am from a generation where you got busted in the ass when you did something bad...sure, it hurt like hell and I cried my eyes out a few times, especially if the offense was bad enough to escelate from a spanking to dad's belt being used, but I learned something. I've swatted my own children a few times, and been put down by other parents for doing it...but oddly enough, those are the same parents who now praise how my children behave when they are at their home...where as, when their children are at mine, its like having farm animals over.
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    I feel sorry for the little guy

    parents make mistakes all the time in trying to find effective ways to discipline their children, and this is obviously a mistake


    seems like what she is having trouble with this kid's lies..it's a manipulative behavior...having had that problem with a kid myself, I can tell you that it is one of the most frustrating things to deal with......it erodes the trust between parent and child until there is none.....but putting a kid in a cold shower or hot saucing him does nothing to rebuild that trust for the kid.

    you get a kid to stop lying by getting him to trust you and feel safe and accepted by you, so that he doesn't have to manipulate his reality by lying

    so if that renders this punishment counter productive...so what is she going to resort to next?

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    that's pretty screwed up stuff. A shot in the butt would have been just as effective I imagine. Fear of parents can be a good thing. Hot sauce seems pretty stupid to me though. Not something that I would do or recommend.

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    I just listened to some of the rest of what those two hen brain commentators had to say on it.....ugh. I could just vomit.

    "Parent's aren't there to enforce punishment"

    "This woman needs help. She needs to be taught how to "properly" parent her children".

    What an absolutely arrogant and self righteous thing to say. I absolutely detest people saying things like THAT. Those two dipshit women doing the interview are the bad guy to me. Not the Mom trying to keep her kid from lying.
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