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    So with another NAMM under the belt, and no mention of the D2H Tail piece, is this unit a no go? I don't see it on the EVH Gear website anymore either. I was interested in it's design, and by Brucky's account it had a world of potential, but from what I had heard, it's mounting options, and the types of guitars it was targeting ie: Carved tops like the Wolfgang, Gibson LP, were a significant stumbling block (Except perhaps for a flat top guitar). Does anyone think it has a possible future, and if it did appear in a different mounting configuration, would you buy one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by we die young View Post
    So with another NAMM under the belt, and no mention of the D2H Tail piece, is this unit a no go? I don't see it on the EVH Gear website anymore either. I was interested in it's design, and by Brucky's account it had a world of potential, but from what I had heard, it's mounting options, and the types of guitars it was targeting ie: Carved tops like the Wolfgang, Gibson LP, were a significant stumbling block (Except perhaps for a flat top guitar). Does anyone think it has a possible future, and if it did appear in a different mounting configuration, would you buy one?
    Just curious.
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    I never saw the point. Was I to understand it was basically a D Tuna on a hardtail? If so, why do you need the fancy tail to just reach up and tune down your E string to D?
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    I believe it started as that. Ed's plan was for it to detune all 6 strings a 1/2 step. I would have gotten one, seeing that my band plays some tunes in standard, and some dropped.

    Cool idea, but from what I heard it just didnt work that well. And for it to just drop the E, you can use a hipshot.

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    I would have gotten one if it worked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtuner317 View Post
    I believe it started as that. Ed's plan was for it to detune all 6 strings a 1/2 step. I would have gotten one, seeing that my band plays some tunes in standard, and some dropped.

    Cool idea, but from what I heard it just didnt work that well. And for it to just drop the E, you can use a hipshot.
    was it just a half step?

    I thought I read somewhere that he had some of those deep detuning folks in mind in that could drop more than a couple notes...like the E could go down to a B...whatever your strings allowed.

    I don't know for sure though...but I thought that's where the whole "drop to hell" name came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red43j View Post
    I never saw the point. Was I to understand it was basically a D Tuna on a hardtail? If so, why do you need the fancy tail to just reach up and tune down your E string to D?
    Yes, but with the added stability of a locking nut and fine tuners initially, but then also adding on cams that would allow dropping or raising certain strings tuning, or all of them as mentioned earlier. I understand where you're coming from. I actually gave up on the Dtuna as well. I have three of them, and their all jacked. They don't slide out cleanly, and those stupid little fine adjustment screws always seem to A: rattle loose, or B: gouge the lock screw.
    I just ended up setting up my low E with the fine tuner rolled in almost all the way, then backed it off to get in drop D if I absolutely had too, which is usually never. I just use another guitar.
    Again, I was just curious. In the application of detuning multiple strings in one quick flip of the lever, it had merit. One string....What's the point?
    Where I think the mounting issue could have been simplified was using a standard Gibson bridge stud design. The D2H in the proto format had to be either recess (surface routed) and mounted with four screws. I mean who in the hell would risk this on a $2.000 to $3.000 Wolfgang or Gibson?
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    Quote Originally Posted by we die young View Post
    Yes, but with the added stability of a locking nut and fine tuners initially, but then also adding on cams that would allow dropping or raising certain strings tuning, or all of them as mentioned earlier. I understand where you're coming from. I actually gave up on the Dtuna as well. I have three of them, and their all jacked. They don't slide out cleanly, and those stupid little fine adjustment screws always seem to A: rattle loose, or B: gouge the lock screw.
    I just ended up setting up my low E with the fine tuner rolled in almost all the way, then backed it off to get in drop D if I absolutely had too, which is usually never. I just use another guitar.
    Again, I was just curious. In the application of detuning multiple strings in one quick flip of the lever, it had merit. One string....What's the point?
    Where I think the mounting issue could have been simplified was using a standard Gibson bridge stud design. The D2H in the proto format had to be either recess (surface routed) and mounted with four screws. I mean who in the hell would risk this on a $2.000 to $3.000 Wolfgang or Gibson?

    Agreed. I've got a couple Wolfgangs, but I took the D-tunas off. Sometimes they'd work great, other times, I'd have to sit and mess with it . There's plenty of room on the fine tuners to drop to D anyway, it just takes 2-3 seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjk View Post
    Agreed. I've got a couple Wolfgangs, but I took the D-tunas off. Sometimes they'd work great, other times, I'd have to sit and mess with it . There's plenty of room on the fine tuners to drop to D anyway, it just takes 2-3 seconds.
    I have one guitar with a floyd and it's juuuust a hair shy of having enough room to allow it to get exactly to D.

    Not that I use drop d much...or even use that guitar much.

    I do enjoy open tunings on acoustic though.

    If someone had a floyd like mine, would a slightly longer screw solve that problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by broken9500 View Post
    I have one guitar with a floyd and it's juuuust a hair shy of having enough room to allow it to get exactly to D.

    Not that I use drop d much...or even use that guitar much.

    I do enjoy open tunings on acoustic though.

    If someone had a floyd like mine, would a slightly longer screw solve that problem?
    Yeah. Schaller's are longer. I remember at one time they offered replacement fine tuner screws, but not sure now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjk View Post
    Agreed. I've got a couple Wolfgangs, but I took the D-tunas off. Sometimes they'd work great, other times, I'd have to sit and mess with it . There's plenty of room on the fine tuners to drop to D anyway, it just takes 2-3 seconds.
    I just found them frustrating. In a couple songs we play, I use standard tuning, and in a couple parts, I would pull out the DTuna for drop D. It would completely throw me when I'd go to try to pull out the DTuna, and the damn thing would stick, and I'd be fumbling like an idiot!. That kind of shit just made me dump those things altogether. I did try tips I'd read on here, and Sleeper even told me about lithium grease, but it just seemed to fix the problem for a bit then it got worse again. I don't know how the factory installed ones are, but the aftermarket ones I got were junk, and frankly not cheap. I notice the chrome looks a little more "quality" than the super shiny overly chromed ones I got. They were around the $70.00 mark. Way too much to spend on an undependable gadget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by we die young View Post
    I just found them frustrating. In a couple songs we play, I use standard tuning, and in a couple parts, I would pull out the DTuna for drop D. It would completely throw me when I'd go to try to pull out the DTuna, and the damn thing would stick, and I'd be fumbling like an idiot!. That kind of shit just made me dump those things altogether. I did try tips I'd read on here, and Sleeper even told me about lithium grease, but it just seemed to fix the problem for a bit then it got worse again. I don't know how the factory installed ones are, but the aftermarket ones I got were junk, and frankly not cheap. I notice the chrome looks a little more "quality" than the super shiny overly chromed ones I got. They were around the $70.00 mark. Way too much to spend on an undependable gadget.
    they've definitely fixed up the manufacturing process on them now. The ones that are chrome with the Brushed EVH logo instead of the black one are a lot better. I installed one in my 5150-style axe and there's obviously one on the Wolfgang Special and I havent had any issues yet.

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    I'll add my $0.02 on the D-Tuna with my post from July '08 in the D-Tuna thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    Well after 10 years of owning a Wolfgang, my D-Tuna suddenly stopped functioning. It worked great the entire time, but two times ago when I restrung my guitar, if I got the set screw tight enough to bring the string to E, it was too tight to let the D-Tuna out to drop to D. It wouldn't budge. No lube or nothing would work. I took it apart and tried to figure it out and couldn't.

    So finally I just bought a new one, put it on, and it works fine. Weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    I'll add my $0.02 on the D-Tuna with my post from July '08 in the D-Tuna thread:
    Happened the same thing with me, but it worked for just like 2 years. It never failed tho... and my bridge is a Schaller floyd, not a Wolfgang. My new ones are the ones with the brushed logo, they are great and never fail, but my old black logo one was also great... let's wait 2 more years

 

 

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