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    Default Gun-toting jogger cleared of self-defense shooting

    TAMPA, Fla. – A pistol-packing jogger in Florida won't be charged for shooting and killing an 18-year-old teenager who attacked him during a midnight run.

    Prosecutors said Tuesday they are convinced Thomas Baker acted in self defense when he fired eight shots at Carlos Mustelier near Tampa in November.

    Prosecutors say Florida's "stand-your-ground" law was a factor in their decision. The law, passed in 2005, gives people the right to use deadly force as long as they "reasonably believe" it is necessary to stop another person from hurting them.

    Baker told police he reached for his gun when the teen punched him in the face. Baker has a concealed weapons permit.

    The teen was hit (with rounds) four times in the chest, back and buttocks. He died at the scene.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/12...#ixzz1ArmWdimu

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    Well done mr. gun-toting jogger man.
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    8 shots? Florida?


    Wonder why he held back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LLFHS View Post
    8 shots? Florida?


    Wonder why he held back.
    Most likely he had a compact handgun that only holds 8 rounds. Toting around a bigger gun while jogging just doesn't make much sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy 150 View Post
    Most likely he had a compact handgun that only holds 8 rounds. Toting around a bigger gun while jogging just doesn't make much sense.
    It does if you're weight training at the same time.
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    The only problem I have with that law is that everybody's opinion of "being in danger of physical harm" is different. And not all physical harm is the same. If a guy punches me in the face, even if I had a gun I don't think I'd feel the need to pop a few caps into him. That's just me though.

    Granted, in this particular case the jogger didn't know if the guy who attacked him had a knife or a gun or some other weapon. So he was well within his right in doing so.

    But what happens if two guys (who are packing heat) get into a fight and both of them feel as though they are going to get hurt? They both pull their guns on a each other and suddenly it's gone from a simple fight to a good old fashioned shootout.

    Actually that might be quite entertaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    If a guy punches me in the face, even if I had a gun I don't think I'd feel the need to pop a few caps into him. That's just me though.
    You're a nicer person than me. Last person to punch me in the face got kicked twice in the nads. If I'd had a gun, I likely would have shot him in the nads. Twice.
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    He unwittingly brought a fist ... to a gun fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    The only problem I have with that law is that everybody's opinion of "being in danger of physical harm" is different. And not all physical harm is the same. If a guy punches me in the face, even if I had a gun I don't think I'd feel the need to pop a few caps into him. That's just me though.

    Granted, in this particular case the jogger didn't know if the guy who attacked him had a knife or a gun or some other weapon. So he was well within his right in doing so.

    But what happens if two guys (who are packing heat) get into a fight and both of them feel as though they are going to get hurt? They both pull their guns on a each other and suddenly it's gone from a simple fight to a good old fashioned shootout.

    Actually that might be quite entertaining.
    Brother, I will guarantee you that if somebody punched you in the face along some dark road at midnight like in this case, you would think that you were in mortal danger.

    I would have capped his ass as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Brother, I will guarantee you that if somebody punched you in the face along some dark road at midnight like in this case, you would think that you were in mortal danger.

    I would have capped his ass as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Brother, I will guarantee you that if somebody punched you in the face along some dark road at midnight like in this case, you would think that you were in mortal danger.

    I would have capped his ass as well.
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    Granted, in this particular case the jogger didn't know if the guy who attacked him had a knife or a gun or some other weapon. So he was well within his right in doing so.
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