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    This thread was recently closed by OLO because, apparently, it turned into a conspiracy theory thread by myself.

    One of my early posts in the thread made mention of the JFK assassination. This was the post from Page 1:

    I think what he was getting at was that are we really surprised by what sick fuckin' people do anymore?

    America is, after all, a country where it's Government assassinated it's own President. Talk about fucked up.

    I don't think he was commenting on how tragic or how screwed up this story is.

    And it is a terribly tragic story.
    This was Dave's Dreidel's response:

    If you are referring to Kennedy, I don't think it was the government per se.

    But I think we can all agree Lee Harvey Oswald didn't act alone.
    I then responded to his post:

    Well the evidence supporting the theory that there was a conspiracy within the CIA, FBI, Secret Service and the Dallas Police department is overwhelming.

    Was it a government agent who pulled the trigger? No, probably not. But did the US government know what was going to happen that day in Dallas? I don't for one second believe that they didn't. Too many events before and after the fact link the US Gov't to the assassination.

    OLO then closed the thread right after my post. No, "Let's make sure this doesn't turn into a conspiracy debate guys" or "Let's try to keep the thread on topic...". None of that. Just this from OLO:

    And with that I will be closing this thread.

    What a shame that a thread about this brutal crime turns into a conspiracy thread.

    Doesn't make sense to me. 3 posts about a conspiracy and suddenly the thread's main topic has been changed. Maybe if it was somebody else posting other than me OLO would have kept it open.

    But if mods are just going to close threads because of a couple posts that aren't pertaining to the main topic then that truly is ridiculous.
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    Really?

    You need someone to lay out why that thread was closed?
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    And thats about what its worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLO View Post
    Really?

    You need someone to lay out why that thread was closed?
    Honestly. Yeah I do considering you closed it immediately after I posted.

    You made one post saying that the thread better not turn into a LEFT/RIGHT debate or else you would close it. Fine. Nothing wrong with that.

    Then after I post in response to somebody in regards to an assassination you close it saying the thread has turn into a "conspiracy debate." ?????????
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    ((Just My Two Cents))
    And thats about what its worth.

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    youre making me hot OLO. LOL
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    True the Kennedy claim is a bit "out there" but I think we've seen far worse on the Links over the years. I didn't think it warranted the closing of the thread, as the political discussion stayed somewhat civil (being called a "psycho liberal" made me laugh, if anything). But maybe it was a preemptive move!
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    Thread was supposed to be about these people being killed in Arizona. But it started into a JFK conspiracy convention. It was only gonna get worse. Seriously, feel free to start a thread about that, there's been a couple from time to time. But that thread should have been about memorializing those people. I'm sure a few control gun control people would have popped up but even that may have been warranted. It was unfortunate but I have no problem with the thread being closed.

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    To OLO's credit, he did offer a warning about the direction of the thread. Too bad it was closed... at times I use threads such as that one to keep up with certain news events. We do a better job here covering things sometimes than the news networks do.

    Not sure why certain posts just can't be deleted to preserve the thread subject matter over shutting the whole thing down. Oh well... at least we will be spared from 5 pages of one person arguing with another about flip flopping on subject matter and not reading what one said properly or putting words in someones mouth, etc, etc. etc.... yeah! probably best to just close it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood P. View Post
    Thread was supposed to be about these people being killed in Arizona. But it started into a JFK conspiracy convention. It was only gonna get worse. Seriously, feel free to start a thread about that, there's been a couple from time to time. But that thread should have been about memorializing those people. I'm sure a few control gun control people would have popped up but even that may have been warranted. It was unfortunate but I have no problem with the thread being closed.

    And I'm not sucking up to OLO. Maybe later.
    3 posts and it turned into a conspiracy convention?

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    To OLO's credit, he did offer a warning about the direction of the thread. .
    He warned about the thread not turning into a LEFT vs RIGHT debate not a conspiracy theory debate. He obviously didn't see much of a problem with the "conspiracy" posts up until that point since he didn't mention them. Then after ONE post by me he closes it citing that it became a conspiracy debate.


    I'm sure the thread would have turned into a political debate anyways but would that have been a surprise? It's a politically themed story. Yes we are ALL saddened by the story. It was tragic. But politics are involved in the story so they should be involved in the conversation about the story. My original comment about the JFK assassination was not meant to start a debate. It was ONE SENTENCE within a larger post in response to somebody else's post.
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    Just get over it Mitch. History here proves that it would have become a full blown JFK conspiracy thread with you in the middle of it. The original thread about a wack job shooter in AZ would have been lost. Sorry if you feel targeted some how, but when you disagree with someone, you rarely let up. Not trying to pick on you, but many threads have become off limits (for me at least, and I try to read everything here, even if I don't comment) once you get your foot in the door.

    I know I'll get hell for this post, but you will surely agree... we all have opinions.

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    Mitch,

    Think about this for a second. A country is dealing with a tragic incident where one of their politicians is almost killed by a madman. In that same incident a 9 year old child and 4 others are murdered. Does this seem to be the appropriate time for an outsider (you, for instance) to tell them this is just further illustration as to how fucked up their country is? You then throw in your (I'm sure ridiculously well reseached) opinion that JFK was murdered by his own government. Like this is a statement of fact.

    Your timing blows. Olo saved you from being told off by a whole bunch of people. You should be thanking him instead of being critical of his decision to close a thread that was destined to turn into a trainwreck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    3 posts and it turned into a conspiracy convention?
    Yeah, pretty much. Just no hookers (that I'm aware of).
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    Mitch,

    Think about this for a second. A country is dealing with a tragic incident where one of their politicians is almost killed by a madman. In that same incident a 9 year old child and 4 others are murdered. Does this seem to be the appropriate time for an outsider (you, for instance) to tell them this is just further illustration as to how fucked up their country is? You then throw in your (I'm sure ridiculously well reseached) opinion that JFK was murdered by his own government. Like this is a statement of fact.

    Your timing blows. Olo saved you from being told off by a whole bunch of people. You should be thanking him instead of being critical of his decision to close a thread that was destined to turn into a trainwreck.
    I was on the verge of being told off for one sentence in a post in which I was clarifying somebody elses post to LowLife?

    Unbelievable. 3 posts; one and ONLY ONE was solely about the JFK thing and suddenly, I started a an inevitable train wreck.

    Unbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    I was on the verge of being told off for one sentence in a post in which I was clarifying somebody elses post to LowLife?

    Unbelievable. 3 posts; one and ONLY ONE was solely about the JFK thing and suddenly, I started a an inevitable train wreck.

    Unbelievable.
    you don't need more than 3 posts to say enough to get told off. It's all about timing. Your JRK theory might have been better saved for a thread that was about, I don't know, JFK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    you don't need more than 3 posts to say enough to get told off. It's all about timing. Your JRK theory might have been better saved for a thread that was about, I don't know, JFK.
    My theory? It was one sentence in ONE POST in response to somebody else! Nobody had to respond to that ONE SENTENCE. My other post in the thread had nothing to do with it if you actually read my posts.

    I agree. You'd have to be stupid to BLAME her for what happened. It was just an extremely careless and stupid thing for her to say and put out there. EXTREMELY stupid. Then again it's nothing out of the ordinary from that stupid bitch. Still: "Don't retreat. Reload." and then the whole crosshairs map? What the fuck was she thinking? She deserves all the criticism she is getting, in my opinion.

    If Obama said it and this tragedy took place, you can be damn sure people would be jumping ALL OVER him for it.
    That really seems like a post from somebody who wants to start shit in a thread doesn't it?
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