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    Default Susan G Komen Foundation owns the phrase "the cure"???

    The Susan G Komen Foundation has recently become agressive about suing other charities for the use of the term "for the cure".

    They claim to own the copyright on the phrase and have devoted about a million dollars to lawsuits to defend the use of the term by other smaller charities.


    I don't know, but it seems awfully frivolous at a time when donations are so hard to come by to spend any money on such things....some attorney convinced them of the merits of this, no doubt

    I give as much as I can to charity and I'm getting sick of this kind of wastefullness

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    Reported by: Cynthia Schweigert
    Tuesday, January 04 2011
    A Mattoon breast cancer survivor got a rude awakening when she found out about the lawsuit Susan G. Komen brought against other organizations.
    It's taking on other organizations that use the phrase, "for a cure".
    It's becoming a messy legal battle, that's leaving people who donate upset and confused.

    "I am on a limited budget and the organizations I donate to, I expect them to use the money wisely, and lawsuits are not something I want to finance," said Gloria Beabout, a cancer survivor from Mattoon.

    But that's exactly where Beabout's money could be going.
    "Of course it's frustrating," she said.

    The Susan G. Komen Foundation wants the words "for the cure" all to itself.
    "They want other people not to be able to use those words because they think it dilutes their brand and makes their organization lose value," said Christine Hurt, a Professor of Law at the U of I.

    Lawsuits can take up a lot of money, and in this case donations.
    "Once it sues a smaller organization that's doing it's own bike for a cure, that organization has to use it's fundriaising to defend the lawsuit," Hurt said.

    "Everyone loses, everybody loses," said Beaubout.

    For people who've gone through the worst of a disease, this legal battle is a step backwards in what should be a fight for life.
    "Who cares who comes up with a cure, who cares who uses the slogan. The man thing is that they're out there using the money that was given to them in good faith to do what they say they're going to do," said Beaubout.

    This fight over a cure has people wondering if next time, they'll leave the checkbook at home.
    "Will I donate to them again, I don't know," said Beabout.

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    Somwhere out there, Robert Smith is shitting his pants.
    haha...no kidding.


    As for the issue, when these "charities" become such huge businesses and they're run by know-it-all, arrogant, self-serving people, this is what happens.
    Stay out of it, dude.


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    Paying $500 an hour to sue someone else for using the term "for the cure".

    I will never give them another dollar if they are that fucking stupid with their money.
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    Karen Handel, a vice president with the Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation, resigned her position Tuesday after a controversy over funding for Planned Parenthood projects, the foundation said.



    Komen's founder and CEO, Nancy Brinker, said in a statement she had accepted Handel's resignation and acknowledged, "we have made mistakes in how we handled recent decisions."

    Handel, the foundation's senior vice president for policy, opposes abortion. She was the driving force behind the foundation's decision not to renew parts of its long-standing partnership with Planned Parenthood, the Huffington Post reported earlier this week after reviewing internal e-mails at the foundation. Planned Parenthood operates hundreds of family clinics where abortions are performed.

    The Komen foundation later reversed its decision after being faced with a deluge of opposition that included pressure from lawmakers and internal dissent.

    "Susan G. Komen for the Cure's mission is the same today as it was the day of its founding: to find a cure and eradicate breast cancer," Brinker said. "We owe no less to our partners, supporters and, above all, the millions of people who have been and continue to be impacted by this life-threatening disease.

    "We have made mistakes in how we have handled recent decisions and take full accountability for what has resulted, but we cannot take our eye off the ball when it comes to our mission," she said. "To do this effectively, we must learn from what we've done right, what we've done wrong and achieve our goal for the millions of women who rely on us. The stakes are simply too high and providing hope for a cure must drive our efforts."

    Handel had served in her position at Komen since April 2011, Brinker said. "I have known Karen for many years, and we both share a common commitment to our organization's lifelong mission, which must always remain our sole focus. I wish her the best in future endeavors," she said.

    Handel, a former Georgia secretary of state, was a Republican gubernatorial candidate in Georgia in 2010, losing to current Gov. Nathan Deal in a primary runoff. Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was a Handel supporter.

    "Let me be clear, since I am pro-life, I do not support the mission of Planned Parenthood," Handel wrote on her campaign website in 2010.

    Planned Parenthood said after Komen's initial decision to cut off some funding that money from the foundation has largely paid for breast exams at local centers. In the past five years, it said, grants from Komen have directly supported 170,000 screenings, making up about 4% of the exams performed at Planned Parenthood clinics nationwide.

    The backlash from the decision was immediate. In Washington, 26 Senate Democrats signed a letter calling on Komen to reconsider. New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a longtime Planned Parenthood supporter, pledged $250,000 in matching grants to help make up for the funding loss.

    Bloomberg's gift came on top of $400,000 that Planned Parenthood reported raising online from 6,000 donors in the first 24 hours after the initial announcement. By Friday, more than $3 million had been raised, in what Planned Parenthood CEO Barbara Zdravecky said was a "testament to America's compassion and sincerity."

    CREDO, which describes itself as the largest corporate donor to Planned Parenthood, said last week that 250,000 of its members had signed a petition urging Komen to reverse its decision. CREDO also had pledged a $200,000 grant to replace the Komen funds for Planned Parenthood.

    Several online petitions had called for Handel to be fired, including one from CREDO Action that the organization said Tuesday had some 50,000 signatures.

    "Komen may have apologized, but they still need to clean house, starting with the person who drove this atrocious action," the petition said "If Komen wishes to rehabilitate its devastated reputation and gain back trust, Handel needs to be fired."

    "The move is clearly connected to attempts by Republicans in Congress to defund Planned Parenthood," the organization said in a statement at the time.

    Members began making calls to Komen offices on Tuesday morning before news of Handel's resignation broke, CREDO said.

    "Tea Party politicians like Karen Handel shouldn't get to play politics with women's right to health care," said Becky Bond, political director of CREDO Action, in a written statement. "Her damaging actions at the Susan G. Komen Foundation show that in the real world -- unlike in Congress -- when you threaten Planned Parenthood clinics, you will face massive and immediate pushback."

    Handel's resignation is "good news," said Jody Schoger, author of the blog "Women with Cancer," and herself a 57-year-old breast cancer survivor. "They've taken a step in the right direction."

    But there are more steps that need to be taken, she said. "It's important for them to review their mission and get it back in touch with the people who helped build them, and that's survivors and the women they serve. Somewhere, that got lost in big events and big sponsors."

    For example, she cited the fact that the organization has pursued lawsuits against other cancer organizations that had used the word "cure" in their own marketing programs as well as what she sees as the foundation's overcommercialization.

    "It's not surprising," said John Hammarley, who worked in public relations for three years at Komen until last June, when he was laid off.

    "Komen had to act, and I think it confirms many people's suspicions that Ms. Handel was a driving force behind this ill-fated move," said Hammarley, who added that he holds no ill will toward Komen and hopes it bounces back. Toward that end, he said, people still with the organization have told him that Komen has already contacted its affiliates in an effort to get back on track.

    "I hope that they refocus their efforts on publicizing all the women throughout the country and around the world that Komen helps," he said. "I think Komen needs to get back to basics."

    Last week's funding dispute with Planned Parenthood was the tipping point for building frustration, said Schoger, who described herself as a former supporter of Komen who now gives to Lance Armstrong's Livestrong.

    On Sunday, the Huffington Post quoted an anonymous "Komen insider" as saying Handel was behind the decision, as well as an attempt to make it look nonpolitical.

    The strategy, according to the online publication, involved drafting new guidelines preventing Komen from funding any organization under investigation by local, state or federal authorities. In September, the House Committee on Energy and Commerce began an investigation into Planned Parenthood over the organization's "compliance with federal restrictions on funding abortions."

    "Karen Handel was the prime instigator of this effort, and she herself personally came up with investigation criteria," the source told the Huffington Post. "She said, 'If we just say it's about investigations, we can defund Planned Parenthood and no one can blame us for being political.'"

    "I can tell you that the e-mails show that Karen Handel was behind the entire decision to defund Planned Parenthood," Laura Bassett, Huffington Post political reporter, told CNN Monday. "She was behind the strategy to develop the new criteria for who can be funded. And she's been behind the PR effort to clean up what's happened since the decision was announced."

    The Komen foundation reversed itself Friday, saying, "We want to apologize to the American public for recent decisions that cast doubt upon our commitment to our mission of saving women's lives. We will continue to fund existing grants, including those of Planned Parenthood, and preserve their eligibility to apply for future grants, while maintaining the ability of our affiliates to make funding decisions that meet the needs of their communities."
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    I am so sick of people's politics getting in the way of common sense. If your money is to go for breast exams and you want to be sure it doesn't support anything else, then put some reporting stipulations in there when you give the money. Don't stop something that is supporting your agenda by giving free exams regardless if there are some things you don't agree with. It's like being catholic and you stop supporting a hospital because they tie women's tubes which goes against birth control. Ridiculous.
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    I'd like to extend a reminder to all parties involved if I may.


    There's this disease, see. It's killing 1 out of 8 women, about 40,000 a year. The mother of a close friend of mine (and a bit of a mom to me too) was claimed by it 8 years ago.

    Please focus on curing it. Let this copyrighting bullshit and the pandering to the right wait until after that is done. K?



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    Quote Originally Posted by loveevhsince79 View Post
    I am so sick of people's politics getting in the way of common sense. If your money is to go for breast exams and you want to be sure it doesn't support anything else, then put some reporting stipulations in there when you give the money. Don't stop something that is supporting your agenda by giving free exams regardless if there are some things you don't agree with. It's like being catholic and you stop supporting a hospital because they tie women's tubes which goes against birth control. Ridiculous.
    I do a lot of work with non-profits, they are called Restricted Funds.

    Every non-profit of any size has them. I am sure an organization such as Planned Parenthood has a large amount of restricted funds.

    "You can my donation for contraception, but not for funding abortions" etc., it is very common.

    That is all they would have had to do.
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