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    It's the end of the traditional crib that has cradled millions of babies for generations.

    The government outlawed drop-side cribs on Wednesday after the deaths of more than 30 infants and toddlers in the past decade and millions of recalls.

    It was a unanimous vote by the Consumer Product Safety Commission to ban the manufacture, sale and resale of the cribs, which have a side rail that moves up and down, allowing parents to more easily lift their child from the crib.

    The new standard requiring cribs to have fixed sides would take effect in June. The move by CPSC would also prohibit hotels and childcare centers from using drop-sides, though those facilities would have two years to purchase new cribs.

    CPSC Chairman Inez Tenenbaum hailed the new standard for cribs as one of the strongest in the world.

    "I believe these new standards will markedly reduce crib-related hazards and help to ensure that young children sleep more safely in their cribs," Tenenbaum said after the vote.

    Around for decades, drop-side cribs have come under scrutiny in recent years because of malfunctioning hardware, sometimes cheaper plastics, or assembly problems that can lead to the drop-side rail partially detaching from the crib. When that happens, it can create a dangerous "V"-like gap between the mattress and side rail where a baby can get caught and suffocate or strangle.

    In all, drop-side cribs have been blamed in the deaths of at least 32 infants and toddlers since 2000 and are suspected in another 14 infant fatalities. In the past five years, more than 9 million drop-side cribs have been recalled, including cribs from big-name companies such as Evenflo, Delta Enterprise Corp., and Pottery Barn Kids.

    Michele Witte of Merrick, N.Y., lost her 10-month-old son, Tyler, in 1997 when the drop-side rail on his crib came loose, partially detached and then trapped his neck between the rail and the headboard.


    "It's been a long 13 years," said Witte. "I feel like it's a celebratory time because things are finally being done about the issue."

    Witte appeared at a news conference on Capitol Hill with Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill., and Rep. Joe Crowley, D-N.Y., all of whom have pushed for stronger crib safety rules.

    The new standard mandates tougher safety testing for cribs, tests that more closely mimic a child in a crib. As children get older, they can apply more force to the crib — shaking on it, running around in it, jumping up and down. The new tests aim to make sure the cribs can take that kind of pressure.

    Better labeling on crib pieces will also be required a measure that aims to cut down on the misassembly problems that some parents have encountered, problems that can lead to the death of a child.

    Parents who lost their children in drop-side cribs say Wednesday's ban couldn't come soon enough.

    Chad Johns, whose 9-month-old son, Liam, died in a drop-side crib in 2005, said he was a little relieved.


    "Yes, it's a long time coming," said Johns from Roseville, Calif. "But the fact that it is happening that's what is important."

    Crib makers were already phasing out drop-side cribs over the last couple years, amid increasing problems with them. And last year, the organization that sets voluntary industry standards ASTM International approved a drop-side ban.

    Many parents, however, still have drop-sides in their homes. They can also be found at secondhand stores
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    This seems a little ridiculous to me. .003% death rate, More kids die choking on hot dogs every year. I'll bet though that there is some group out there pushing for those to be made illegal too.
    I used to jog but the ice cubes kept falling out of my glass.

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    difference between a crib and a hot dog though is that hopefully parents aren't leaving their babies alone with a hot dog.

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    They make these cribs (and other things now) with the most cheap shit plastic hardware they can get away with. They will not withstand daily use for long - even the stress of a parent leaning against it to lift their child out of the crib or a toddler banging on it will cause it to stress and eventually break. To the manufacturers - stop making cheap plastic hardware and focus on making a sturdy product that can take the daily use and normal abuse (that a crib should be able to withstand) and perhaps these fatal incidents may not happen nearly as often (if at all).

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    I find these to be much more effective and safe.






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    It's amazing that any of us survived childhood.

    I know there is that list of what was different but I can remember having one of these cribs and my mother smoked at the time. No fucking baby monitors. If I cried and my mother didn't hear me, so be it. Of course I had the shitty designed car seat and only sat in it until 2 or so.

    When I got older, I would ride my bike without a helmet since they didn't exist. My friends and I used to have bottle rocket fights or sometimes would throw clumps of dirt at each other. Used to put firecrackers in the back pockets of friends and light them on fire. We used to chew tar from the road when we didn't have gum to chew. I would wait outside for my bus outside at the corner with the other kids and froze. Our mommies didn't wipe our ass by putting us in a warm car until the bus arrived. We couldn't wear shorts to school so if it was 90, we sweated since most of our schools didn't have AC.

    I know none of that has anything to do with the article but man kids today have it easy. I understand kids die from cribs but they die from other things too.

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    More laws to make parents lazier...
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    I had one of these cribs and all 3 of my children slept in them from about 1 month old to almost 2 years old spanning 10 years. Not once did a single piece break on it or did it ever fall apart. I had to set it up and take it apart 3 times, once for each child, and each time it was solid. I would bet that there are cheap ones being made and or the person putting it together just didn't do it right.
    I used to jog but the ice cubes kept falling out of my glass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggysmalls View Post
    It's amazing that any of us survived childhood.

    I know there is that list of what was different but I can remember having one of these cribs and my mother smoked at the time. No fucking baby monitors. If I cried and my mother didn't hear me, so be it. Of course I had the shitty designed car seat and only sat in it until 2 or so.

    When I got older, I would ride my bike without a helmet since they didn't exist. My friends and I used to have bottle rocket fights or sometimes would throw clumps of dirt at each other. Used to put firecrackers in the back pockets of friends and light them on fire. We used to chew tar from the road when we didn't have gum to chew. I would wait outside for my bus outside at the corner with the other kids and froze. Our mommies didn't wipe our ass by putting us in a warm car until the bus arrived. We couldn't wear shorts to school so if it was 90, we sweated since most of our schools didn't have AC.

    I know none of that has anything to do with the article but man kids today have it easy. I understand kids die from cribs but they die from other things too.
    I agree, I am told by my older sister and my mother that we never had a car seat. I was always held in my sisters lap in the car if the family went somewhere. Like you, there was always a haze of cigarette smoke in the room growing up. Never a helmet when riding a bike, and as kids around the age of 10-12 we would have Chinese star fights at school on the playground. We would have 2 people stand at either ends of the wood dug out bench at the schools baseball field and each person would take turns throwing the stars at the other persons feet. The other person obviously jumping out of the way before being hit without falling off the bench. If the teachers took away the stars we would use darts.
    I used to jog but the ice cubes kept falling out of my glass.

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    the bigger issue isn't with drop side cribs specifically but with cheap products. We just bought two drop sides for the twins and my son had one. If you install them properly and don't by cheap crap to put your kids in they are perfectly safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sickman View Post
    I agree, I am told by my older sister and my mother that we never had a car seat. I was always held in my sisters lap in the car if the family went somewhere. Like you, there was always a haze of cigarette smoke in the room growing up. Never a helmet when riding a bike, and as kids around the age of 10-12 we would have Chinese star fights at school on the playground. We would have 2 people stand at either ends of the wood dug out bench at the schools baseball field and each person would take turns throwing the stars at the other persons feet. The other person obviously jumping out of the way before being hit without falling off the bench. If the teachers took away the stars we would use darts.
    Oh man I forgot about Chinese Stars. I remember we used to make them in metal shop and throw them around the classroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggysmalls View Post
    Oh man I forgot about Chinese Stars. I remember we used to make them in metal shop and throw them around the classroom.
    shit, you'd be labled a terrorist, taken out in handcuffs and expelled from school forever if that happened today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    the bigger issue isn't with drop side cribs specifically but with cheap products. We just bought two drop sides for the twins and my son had one. If you install them properly and don't by cheap crap to put your kids in they are perfectly safe.
    That's the key I think - it's not the style, but the fact they aren't made as well anymore. But I guess it's easier to ban the style than to hold the manufacturers to some kind of standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007 View Post
    That's the key I think - it's not the style, but the fact they aren't made as well anymore. But I guess it's easier to ban the style than to hold the manufacturers to some kind of standard.
    sadly this is the truth. not that the standard cribs are any safer as the mother or father is reaching further down to pick up the kid and is more likely to drop the baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
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