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    False Flag Operations: False flag operations are covert operations designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by other entities.
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    Information about acts of terror to be carried out in the US which were planned by our own Department of Defense and presented to President Kennedy. Though never executed it details how the US government would secretly carry out acts of terror in major cities in the United States, including Miami and Washington D.C., so that the US could then point the finger at Castro and paint the Cuban government as hostile, thereby paving the way for a US invasion.

    the Top Secret memorandum describes U.S. plans to covertly engineer various pretexts that would justify a U.S. invasion.


    Declassified in 1997 with the Freedom of Information Act, this document, titled "Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba" was provided by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13, 1962.



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    Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, Justification for US Military Intervention in Cuba [includes cover memoranda], March 13, 1962, TOP SECRET, 15 pp.
    OPERATION NORTHWOODS - http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20...northwoods.pdf


    Below are some excerpts from the document, including details of specific plots -

    TOP SECRET SPECIAL HANDLING NOFORN

    UNCLASSIFIED

    THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF
    WASHINGTON 25, D.C.

    13 March 1962

    MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE

    THE PROBLEM

    1. As requested* by Chief of Operations, Cuba Project, the Joint Chiefs of Staff are to indicate brief but precise description of pretexts which they consider would provide justification for US military intervention in Cuba.

    The suggested courses of action appended to Enclosure A are based on the premise that US military intervention will result from a period of heightened US-Cuban tensions which place the United States in the position of suffering justifiable grievances. World opinion, and the United Nations forum should be favorably affected by developing the international image of the Cuban government as rash and irresponsible, and as an alarming and unpredictable threat to the peace of the Western Hemisphere.

    4. We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington.

    The terror campaign could be pointed at refugees seeking haven in the United States. We could sink a boatload of Cubans enroute to Florida (real or simulated). We could foster attempts on lives of Cuban refugees in the United States even to the extent of wounding in instances to be widely publicized. Exploding a few plastic bombs in carefully chosen spots, the arrest of Cuban agents and the release of prepared documents substantiating Cuban involvement, also would be helpful in projecting the idea of an irresponsible government.

    3. This plan should be developed to focus all efforts on a specific ultimate objective which would provide adequate justification for US military intervention. Such a plan would enable a logical build-up of incidents to be combined with other seemingly unrelated events to camouflage the ultimate objective and create the necessary impression of Cuban rashness and irresponsibility on a large scale, directed at other countries as well as the United States. The plan would also properly integrate and time phase the courses of action to be pursued. The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.


    2. A series of well coordinated incidents will be planned to take place in and around Guantanamo to give genuine appearance of being done by hostile Cuban forces.

    a. Incidents to establish a credible attack (not in chronological order):

    (1) start rumors (many). Use clandestine radio.

    (2) Land friendly Cubans in uniform "over-the-fence" to stage attack on base.

    (3) Capture Cuban (friendly) saboteurs inside the base.

    (4) Start riots near the base main gate (friendly Cubans).

    (5) Blow up ammunition inside the base; start fires.

    (6) Burn aircraft on air base (sabotage).

    (7) Lob mortar shells from outside of base into base. Some damage to installations.

    (8) capture assault teams approaching from the sea or vicinity of Guantanamo City.

    (9) Capture militia group which storms the base.

    (10) Sabotage ship in harbor; large fires -- napthalene.

    (11) Sink ship near harbor entrance. Conduct funerals for mock-victims (may be lieu of (10)).

    b. United States would respond by executing offensive operations to secure water and power supplies, destroying artillery and mortar emplacements which threaten the base.

    c. Commence large scale United States military operations.

    3. A "Remember the Maine" incident could be arranged in several forms:

    a. We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba.

    b. We could blow up a drone (unmanned) vessel anywhere in the Cuban waters. We could arrange to cause such incident in the vicinity of Havana or Santiago as a spectacular result of Cuban attack from the air or sea, or both. The presence of Cuban planes or ships merely investigating the intent of the vessel could be fairly compelling evidence that the ship was taken under attack. The nearness to Havana or Santiago would add credibility especially to those people that might have heard the blast or have seen the fire. The US could follow up with an air/sea rescue operation covered by US fighters to "evacuate" remaining members of the non-existent crew. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.


    Cuban" B-26 or C-46 type aircraft could make cane-burning raids at night. Soviet Bloc incendiaries could be found. This could be coupled with "Cuban" messages to the Communist underground in the Dominican Republic and "Cuban" shipments of arm which would be found, or intercepted, on the beach.

    6. Use of MIG type aircraft by US pilots could provide additional provocation. Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type planes would be useful as complementary actions. An F-86 properly painted would convince air passengers that they saw a Cuban MIG, especially if the pilot of the transport were to announce such fact. The primary drawback to this suggestion appears to be the security risk inherent in obtaining or modifying an aircraft. However, reasonable copies of the MIG could be produced from US resources in about three months.

    7. Hijacking attempts against civil air and surface craft should appear to continue as harassing measures condoned by the government of Cuba. Concurrently, genuine defections of Cuban civil and military air and surface craft should be encouraged.

    8. It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela. The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight.
    a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.

    b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to "sell" the incident.







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    Hey Wruff. I'm with you on so much of this stuff. However, Northwoods is a bad example. It was a thinktank project.. really thinking outside the box kind of thing, and it was shot down by the admin and Macnamara was fired very quickly after this.

    However, there is no doubt that false flag ops have been carried out (for centuries) and the big problem is that, if they are successful, the truth does not come out.

    I'd love to see a top journo, maybe John Pilger (who has earned respect and credibility at every turn) look into what is happening in many western countries at the moment, but whilst his documentaries win awards hand over fist, they are almost silenced and at best get airplay at three in the morning. One only needs to look at his works on Indonesia to know this.

    I can't remember verbatim the quote, but Himmler talked about how easy it was to coerce a population by telling them they are under attack and that the "enemy" hate them for their values and freedoms, and even more importantly, that they are unpatriotic if they dissent from the official line.

    But we do live in worrying times. The economies of so many countries are in the shitter and anger is rising by the minute. What better way to "rally the troops" than to be attacked?

    "Terrorist group X attacked my home. So what if my life is hell because of what my government has done to me? I am now angry with an exterior force." blah blah.

    If I was running a country into the ground and had no morals, I would set this up in a heartbeat. No brainer really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by graeme View Post
    Hey Wruff. I'm with you on so much of this stuff. However, Northwoods is a bad example. It was a thinktank project.. really thinking outside the box kind of thing, and it was shot down by the admin and Macnamara was fired very quickly after this.
    McNamara served another 6 years graeme. The document originated in 1962. McNamara served throughout the Kennedy era and on all the way to 1968 with LBJ. From there he went on to head the World Bank.

    Obviously the administration rejected the plan. But Northwoods is an intriguing example of a potential false flag op which was presented to the president for his consideration. No matter how far out of the box it may be said to be. The CIA operates out of the box constantly. Always has.
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    I think you're confusing Robert McNamara with General Lemnitzer, the Charman of the JCS.


    - - Kennedy personally rejected the Northwoods proposal, and it would now be the Joint Chiefs' turn to incur his displeasure.
    Following presentation of the Northwoods plan, Kennedy removed Lemnitzer as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, although he became Supreme Allied Commander of NATO in January 1963.
    American armed forces leaders began to perceive Kennedy as going soft on Cuba, and the President became increasingly unpopular with the military, a rift that came to a head during Kennedy's disagreements with the service chiefs over the Cuban Missile Crisis.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
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    You're right Wruff, got my idiots mixed up. But I do think that we need to be careful about things that didn't happen as opposed to those that have - that was my basic point.

    There are contingency plans and ideas for all sorts of scenarios, many of which are ridiculous.

    For false flag events, perhaps a good investigator looking into the evidence about the Gulf of Tomkin or Operation Ajax or bombings in 1980's Italy would be more productive.

    However, thanks for the original post - I didn't mean to dismiss it in the way it might have appeared. I know you understand where I was coming from and I'm sure there are many who have never even heard of Operation Northwoods, so it was a very valid thing to have laid out in such a fashion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wruff_ajax View Post
    McNamara served another 6 years graeme. McNamara served throughout the Kennedy era and on all the way to 1968 with LBJ.
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    Lot of people think 9/11 was a government terror scheme.
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    well, at least in that Northwoods scheme, there were no plans where any Americans died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by graeme View Post

    For false flag events, perhaps a good investigator looking into the evidence about the Gulf of Tomkin or Operation Ajax or bombings in 1980's Italy would be more productive.
    Gulf of Tonkin you mean. Another McNamara ff operation, took place 2 years after the Northwoods proposal.

    Yes there's certainly many examples. "Made in the USA" is stitched on most flags in Central and South America. Venezuela a target today. Take the attempted coup of 2002 (Operation Pliers I believe it was called), for example. Or the long US history in Panama and control of that canal from the early 1900's to present, leading to the US invasion of Panama (Op Just Cause) and the inevitable nullification of the Carter treaty of 1977 which would have turned control of the canal over to Panama in 2001. And on and on...

    Noriega and the US "War on drugs" yyyeeaah...
    The CIA is flying the planes transporting the dope throughout Central and South America and into the US.

    Or even cited above in the Northwoods document which references the sinking of the USS Maine in Havana harbor back in 1898 which resulted in the deaths of some 230 US servicemen and served as a catalyst for war with Spain.
    As referenced in Northwoods doc. -
    - 3. A "Remember the Maine" incident could be arranged in several forms:
    - a. We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba.


    Interesting too in that regard that one ff op (Northwoods) would site as an example an event that many reasonably believe to be another historical ff op (USS Maine).
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    Just so I'm scoring this correctly, a proposal from 1962 (48 years ago) that was never acted upon in any way is somehow proof that the US government is ...what exactly?

    The Gulf of Tonkin was a case where the US (Johnson) was looking for any excuse to step into Vietnam in a big way. The destroyers had reported an attack, but as it was a dark and stormy night the next morning they could find no damage during damage control inspections. The problem was that in the eight hours between the inaccurate report and the final report LBJ had issued a statement and made policy. So the USS Maddox's Captain went along with his commander and chief's version of events (because he was a Captain and didn't want to rock the boat).

    If it Tonkin thing hadn't happened LBJ would have found something else.

    I would submit that false-flag operations are unnecessary because Americans don't seem to be that bright any more anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
    Just so I'm scoring this correctly, a proposal from 1962 (48 years ago) that was never acted upon in any way is somehow proof that the US government is ...what exactly?
    I think the proposal itself is pretty damning regardless of whether or not it was acted upon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007 View Post
    well, at least in that Northwoods scheme, there were no plans where any Americans died.
    As long as those bombs being exploded in "carefully chosen spots" in Miami and Washington DC are non-lethal bombs.

    Northwoods..
    4. We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington

    - Exploding a few plastic bombs in carefully chosen spots.

    The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.
    You can't justify going to war with Cuba to the public/media/world if some Americans don't die in your false flag terror campaign.



    Reading that section of Northwoods I can't help but think of the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center and FBI informant Emad Salem whom the FBI used in organizing the attack. Funny that the FBI still claims no former knowledge of the '93 WTC bombing.

    Evidence shows that after receiving one million dollars and real explosives from the FBI, Salem was instructed to build a bomb and give it to the foolish people he was controlling. Salem questioned FBI intentions and asked them "Why are you giving me real explosives, if this is just a sting operation?" Suspecting that his current operation may not be merely a sting, Salem reportedly recorded in secrecy the head of the FBI in New York ordering him to let the bombing take place. In December 1993, James M. Fox, the head of the FBI's New York Office, denied that the FBI had any foreknowledge of the attacks.

    Here's a slice of the conversations between Salem and the FBI.

    FBI Special Agent John Anticev: But, uh, basically nothing has changed. I'm just telling you for my own sake that nothing, that this isn't a salary, that it's—you know. But you got paid regularly for good information. I mean the expenses were a little bit out of the ordinary and it was really questioned. Don't tell Nancy I told you this. [Nancy Floyd is another FBI Special Agent who worked with Emad A. Salem in his informant capacity.]

    FBI undercover agent Emad A. Salem: Well, I have to tell her of course.

    Anticev: Well then, if you have to, you have to.

    Salem: Yeah, I mean because the lady was being honest and I was being honest and everything was submitted with a receipt and now it's questionable.

    Anticev: It's not questionable, it's like a little out of the ordinary.

    Salem: Okay. Alright. I don't think it was. If that's what you think guys, fine, but I don't think that [color=darkred]because we was start already building the bomb which is went off in the World Trade Center. It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the D.A. and we was all informed about it and we know that the bomb start to be built. By who? By your confidential informant.
    [sarcastically] What a wonderful, great case!


    Anticev: Well.

    Salem: And then he put his head in the sand and said "Oh, no, no, that's not true, he is son of a bitch." [Deep breath.] Okay. It's built with a different way in another place and that's it.

    Anticev: No, don't make any rash decisions. I'm just trying to be as honest with you as I can.

    Salem: Of course, I appreciate that.

    Anticev: And as far as the payments go, and everything like that, they're there. I guarantee you that they are there.



    In recorded conversations with FBI Agent Nancy Floyd, Mr. Salem recounts a conversation he said he had with Mr. Anticev, saying, "I said, 'Guys, now you saw this bomb went off and you both know that we could avoid that.' " At another point, Mr. Salem says, "You get paid, guys, to prevent problems like this from happening."

    Mr. Salem talks of the plan to substitute harmless powder for explosives during another conversation with Ms. Floyd. In that conversation, he recalls a previous discussion with agent John Anticev.

    "Do you deny your supervisor is the main reason of bombing the World Trade Center?" Saying to Ms. Floyd that Mr. Anticev did not deny it.

    Salem complained in the recordings that an FBI supervisor “requested to make me to testify [in public] and if he didn’t push for that, we’ll be going building the bomb with a phony powder and grabbing the people who was involved in it. But … we didn’t do that.”

    Mr. Salem's evident anguish at not being able to thwart the trade center blast is a recurrent theme in the transcripts. In one of the first numbered tapes, Mr. Salem is quoted as telling agent Floyd: "Since the bomb went off I feel terrible. I feel bad. I feel here is people who don't listen (FBI)."

    Ms. Floyd seems to commiserate, saying, "hey, I mean it wasn't like you didn't try and I didn't try."

    In an apparent reference to Mr. Salem's complaints about the supervisor, Agent Floyd adds, "You can't force people to do the right thing."


    Emad Salem recording with FBI Agent Anticev, including above transcript -




    Kinda sickening then looking at the FBI website where they've got a page devoted to the attack.
    http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2008...radebom_022608

    A story of agency heroics and vigilance accompanied by pics of the carnage under a headline that reads...
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    First Strike: Global Terror in America
    It was Friday, February 26, 1993, and Middle Eastern terrorism had arrived on American soil—with a bang




    You betcha.


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    Lot of people think 9/11 was a government terror scheme.
    Oh c'mon now,,, how could anyone possibly think that our government would ever even consider doing such a thing. ... oh wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wruff_ajax View Post
    Information about acts of terror to be carried out in the US which were planned by our own Department of Defense and presented to President Kennedy. Though never executed it details how the US government would secretly carry out acts of terror in major cities in the United States, including Miami and Washington D.C., so that the US could then point the finger at Castro and paint the Cuban government as hostile, thereby paving the way for a US invasion.
    This is one of the scariest things I've ever read in my fucking life.
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