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    Does anyone know the sales stats on ALAE? I was looking through Wiki, and it stated that the album was certified Gold in April of 1991. Since Dave toured extensively in 1991, I would assume that it sold a few hundred thousand more. I remember reading somewhere (could be total bs) that the album was close to selling one million copies. If that's true, than its not such a come-down from the sales of Skyscraper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicoTubbs View Post
    Since Dave toured extensively in 1991,
    Actually, he didn't tour that extensively. He didn't come to San Diego, I woulda gone.

    I thought that ALAE got pretty close to 1 mill but I'm not certain on that.
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    Someone a long time ago researched this out, and I think worldwide sales for Dave's albums went roughly 4M for EEAS, 2M for SS, 1M for ALAE, and then the bottom fell out with 100K for YFLM, 50K for DLR Band and a whopping 25K for DD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    and a whopping 25K for DD.
    And one of those was mine!
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    If ALAE was released in 1989/90, maybe it would have stood a chance. It's not a classic, but the band and DLR sound good, and there's a lot of fine moments to be found.

    I think part of the problem was Dave just looked tired.

    Looking at the video for the , Dave just looks like a relic, he actually looks older and more tired in 1991 then he does now. In 1991 he looks like an over-the-hill cock-rocker whose shtick had worn out. Now, he looks like a respectable, elder statesman of rock.



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    I really like ALAE and DLR BAND, but the problem I felt was so many lineup changes.
    If he would have managed to keep the EAS band I think they would have been more succesful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicoTubbs View Post
    If ALAE was released in 1989/90, maybe it would have stood a chance. It's not a classic, but the band and DLR sound good, and there's a lot of fine moments to be found.

    I think part of the problem was Dave just looked tired.

    Looking at the video for the , Dave just looks like a relic, he actually looks older and more tired in 1991 then he does now. In 1991 he looks like an over-the-hill cock-rocker whose shtick had worn out. Now, he looks like a respectable, elder statesman of rock.
    I agree with you there. He took a lot of crap for the jackets and stuff but overall, I think dave looked great and painted a great picture of what it is for a rocker to grow old gracefully with dignity and style. Before this tour, Dave looked like a completely fool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broken9500 View Post
    I agree with you there. He took a lot of crap for the jackets and stuff but overall, I think dave looked great and painted a great picture of what it is for a rocker to grow old gracefully with dignity and style. Before this tour, Dave looked like a completely fool.
    Yeah that platinum blonde look was foolish. Also, with regards to the EEAS line-up, had they not go so synth heavy it could have done well, but Skyscraper was not a good indication of their capability. It was poppy to the point of self-hindrance, which may reflect some of the reasons they split.

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    Billy S was gone during SS. Via was out the door after SS. The band was going to change. Nothing Dave could do there.

    The ALAE tour was going ok till the end of the US run. They ended up cancelling the California dates at the end.

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    Even in the videos they didn't show much of the new band. It was also tough since Jason Becker was going through his medical problems and couldn't tour.

    I did enjoy the couple of tunes that Becker did write. Drop in the Bucket and It's Showtime.

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    I honestly find ALAE to be my favorite solo Dave album
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    ALAE - professionally written and performed hard rock by the numbers.

    It's fine, but there is nothing stand out on it in my opinion besides Drop in the Bucket and Tell the Truth.

    But I will admit, Hammerhead Shark, Sensible Shoes and 40 Below are guilty pleasures. I would never pop it in when anyone else was around, but I will rock out to them in my car if they come up on the iPod shuffle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    But I will admit, Hammerhead Shark, Sensible Shoes and 40 Below are guilty pleasures.
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    OK, here we go. Firstly, figuring out the worldwide sales is something I don't have close to enough knowledge to do.

    Here's what I DO have.

    The album came out January 15, 1991. By April 11, 1991 it was certified Gold (for shipments of over 500, 000 copies - note shipments, not actual sales).

    As of January 19, 2000, "A Little Ain't Enough" had soundscan sales of 330, 448. Soundscan started to track US sales March 1st 1991 I believe. The album's second single did solidly in the rock charts (number 6) and the third wasn't a total flop (number 39, good for an album that already had two successful rock singles), so I think sales continued to be healthy so I'd guess that a large portion of those Soundscan stats are for later in the album's cycle i.e. they mostly don't date from the March/April period post-soundscan tracking but pre-certification.

    What does this mean? Factor in the fact the soundscan sales are ten years out of date, and the album's probably shipped enough copies to be due a Platinum certification (for 1 million shipments).

    Catalogue sales for DLR are pretty negligible though. The soundscan figures I have all date Januay 19, 2000. To give some kind of idea for what Roth was shifting in the 1990s, the soundscan figures for March 1991-January 2000:
    * Crazy From The Head - 80, 404
    * Eat 'Em & Smile - 76, 982
    * Skyscraper - 35, 630

    And for the post-soundscan ones, showing sales from their release:
    * Your Filthy Little Mouth (1994) - 61, 782
    * The Best (1997) - 86, 092
    * DLR Band (1998) - 51, 612

    My overall rough estimations are that Roth's US sales certifications should be (though they'll almost certainly never get updated I suspect.....) as follows:
    * Crazy From The Heat (1985) - 2x Platinum
    * Eat 'Em & Smile (1986) - 2x Platinum
    * Skyscraper (1988) - 2x Platinum
    * A Little Ain't Enough (1991) - Platinum

    In retrospect I think history has been harsh on Roth, who had a pretty solid run of success from 1985 through 1991 - hit singles, hit EP, hit albums, solid rock singles, solid tours (even the first few dates of the 1991 tour did ok, it was about a third into the tour that it started to do terribly). He had a VHS from 1988 go Platinum too, remember.

    I think he did more successfuls tour in 1993 and 1994. While he had a flop album in '94 and was then unable to get a label, he would, alonside his own career, still be generating Van Halen income. Other than old albums with them, they used two Roth songs for '88's Live Without A Net, one for '93's Right Here Right Now (video) and three for Right Here Right Now (album). Alongside his own sales and catalogue VH sales, it all adds up tidily.

    On a related note - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lee_Roth_discography. My latest little contribution to Wikipedia.
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    i'm a bit fussy with Daves solo albums, i love some songs, but find that there are a few fillers on each one....just my opinion.
    On the subject of ALAE though, i'll go for "Shoot it", that was always my fave song off the album.
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    Agreed, but I think there was also too much good material for his best of to really work effectively. Missed out on tons.
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