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    Pelosi Expected to Remain Democratic Leader

    WASHINGTON -- Despite suffering near-historic election losses this month, Democrats in the House of Representatives appear ready to keep their leadership team intact, with the liberal Nancy Pelosi of California still at the top of her party.

    Both parties will hold closed-door House leadership elections Wednesday. But the main focus will involve the soon-to-be minority party, the Democrats.

    Pelosi, 70, who was the nation's first female speaker, the top job in the House, has refused to go down with the ship. She blamed this month's Democratic losses on the bad economy, not on policy decisions by her party, including the passage of a massive health care bill that angered many. She said there was no reason for her to step aside.

    Many House liberals support her. But a number of rank-and-file Democrats, including some left of center, are dismayed. They note that dozens of Republican House candidates ran campaigns linking their Democratic opponents to Pelosi, who was portrayed as a hardcore liberal hopelessly out of touch with middle American values.

    Pelosi appeared to soothe enough angry colleagues Tuesday to ensure her election to the leadership post in her party. Barring a surprise, she will become minority leader in January, when the new Congress convenes. The second- and third-ranking Democrats seem likely to hold their positions as well.

    Republicans, meanwhile, are expected to keep Rep. John Boehner of Ohio as their leader, putting him in place to become speaker in January.

    By quarreling among themselves and sticking with Pelosi, House Democrats are departing from the example set by Republicans, who quickly closed ranks around a new leader, Boehner, four years ago when they lost the majority.

    Pelosi let her supporters and critics vent their emotions Tuesday at a four-hour closed meeting in the Capitol. She got an earful at times from colleagues who said a party must change leaders when it suffers the type of losses Democrats absorbed Nov. 2.

    Rep. Allen Boyd of Florida was particularly pointed in his remarks, according to people present, saying Pelosi is the wrong person to represent Democrats as they try to rebuild. But others defended the San Francisco liberal, and even her toughest critics said she is likely to defeat Rep. Heath Shuler, a moderate from North Carolina.

    Shuler told reporters he's trying to make a point. After a whopping election defeat, he said, it's not wise "to go back and put the exact same leadership into place."

    Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, a leader of moderate Democrats, will keep the No. 2 post, lawmakers said. Rep. Jim Clyburn, the House's highest-ranking black member, is in line to be elected to a new position called "assistant leader," they said. Despite the new title, he will remain the House Democrats' third-ranking leader.

    Tuesday's events offered scant evidence that Democrats, who often quarrel among themselves, will become more cohesive in the wake of their 60-seat House loss.

    Shuler, for instance, showed no interest in mimicking the solidarity that House Republicans displayed during the past four years, when they voted unanimously or nearly unanimously against many high-profile initiatives by Democrats, including Obama.

    "It's very frustrating when I see everyone voting in bloc," Shuler told reporters, because Americans are diverse and crave bipartisan solutions.

    Republicans took a different tack after the 2006 election, which cost them the House majority they had held for 12 years. Within a day, then-Speaker Dennis Hastert said he would step down as party leader in the next Congress.
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    Sounds good to me. I would think the republicans like this idea also.

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    Just proves how out of touch Dems are.
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    I wish she would go on Palin's show and somehow they both would run into a real mama grizzly.

    America would be better off.

    Anyway I don't understand the Democrats logic behind it. Outside of her district and the 13% of people who call themselves liberals, nobody likes her. I mean Obama with his low poll numbers gets favorable ratings as a person. Pelosi doesn't even come close. Hell Bush is viewed as more favorable than her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggysmalls View Post
    I wish she would go on Palin's show and somehow they both would run into a real mama grizzly.

    America would be better off.

    Anyway I don't understand the Democrats logic behind it. Outside of her district and the 13% of people who call themselves liberals, nobody likes her. I mean Obama with his low poll numbers gets favorable ratings as a person. Pelosi doesn't even come close. Hell Bush is viewed as more favorable than her.
    I agree, except I was more hoping for a Dick Cheney type of hunting trip ending with Pelosi needing some work on her face. It would do her some good.
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    Dude I know blow up dolls better looking than her. I feel for her husband.
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    Ok, whats the source of this article?? "San Francisco liberal"...sounds like something from Drudge, even Fox News would not be so overtly partisan. And where is the picture from? Looks doctored. Wonder why these uber conservatives are always so mean about a woman's looks....and any criticism of their spokesmodels (Palin & Bachmann) is returned with cries of "sexism". What fucking hypocrites.

    Anyway, to the meat of the issue. Whoever wrote this article is either half-retarded or a fucking liar. And I mean no offense to actual retards. My father was a retard. Anyway, they comment about how Republicans did things SOOO differently back in 06 when they lost the majority.

    "Republicans took a different tack after the 2006 election, which cost them the House majority they had held for 12 years. Within a day, then-Speaker Dennis Hastert said he would step down as party leader in the next Congress."

    Denny Hastert was embroiled in multiple scandals, one involving diversion of taxpayer funds to build a road that greatly increased the value of formerly worthless land he owned, one involving covering up for a pedophile in the Republican caucus, one for ties to uber lobbyist Jack Abramoff, etc.

    Now, report to me scandals involving Nancy Pelosi? Before you go off on the jet plane crap, note that she's behaved no differently than Denny Hastert did or any other speaker has. This wasn't an issue til a Dem got into the leadership.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp

    Anything else that would necessitate Nancy Pelosi not seeking a leadership position ala Denny Hastert? Is it because her "San Francisco values" are unseemly to you? Or is it because she was a damn effective leader, and anyone the right wing hammers so incessently must be doing something right.

    And this douchebag Heath Shuler pisses me off more than the Rethugs..

    ""It's very frustrating when I see everyone voting in bloc," Shuler told reporters, because Americans are diverse and crave bipartisan solutions."

    You fucking dumbass. Name me a single Republican who HASN'T voted IN BLOC with their leadership? Bipartisanship to Republicans means you do it their way, or they take the ball and go home to have a circle jerk.

    Shuler and his 50 or so Blue Dogs voted against the Dem leadership quite a lot, especially in the health care battle. ALL the fucking Republicans voted the same, in health care, and in every other fucking issue.

    Now the elections roll around, and who loses? If you guessed the Blue Dogs, you'd be right. They lost about 1/2 of their caucus, leaving 25 or so conservative fucktards in the Dem side. How about the progressive caucus? They had 70 or so prior to the election...3 lost. Still, by far, the largest caucus in the Dem side.

    So, who should the Dem's vote for their leader? A "San Francisco liberal" who is closer to their values AND the people who voted them in? Or some DINO douchebag who, as any Redskins fan would know, legislates about as effectively as he could throw an out pattern.

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    I was at an Italian American Gala (not Italian, but I do like to watch their money!) two years ago in which she was the keynote speaker. And I was embarassed for her, it was the worst speech I have ever seen given, and I have seen quite a few speeches in my advanced years. That alone is not a damning condemnation, as our prior President was a very poor public speaker as well. But, I would always hope that we have our best and our brightest in positions of power in this country, and she is not either. If she is, we are in a heap of trouble.

    I personally think she is out of her element, I don't find her to be intelligent at all. The Democratic party must have someone in their ranks more qualified to bring their ideas into the public debate.

    Side note from the Gala that people might find interesting: This year Danny Devito was there and he was absolutely bombed drunk. I mean out of his mind. Secondly, I didn't know that half the Italian American population is gay. Not that there is anything wrong with that!
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    She may have done what other speakers have in the past, although she said herself this was going to be a much different leadership and the most open and honest congress in history.
    Regardless, this bitch likes to get hammered while traveling at our expense.

    Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has obtained documents from the Air Force detailing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s use of United States Air Force aircraft for Congressional Delegations (CODELs). According to the documents, obtained by Judicial Watch through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), the Speaker’s military travel cost the United States Air Force $2,100,744.59 over a two-year period — $101,429.14 of which was for in-flight expenses, including food and alcohol. The following are highlights from the recent release of about 2,000 documents:

    * Speaker Pelosi used Air Force aircraft to travel back to her district at an average cost of $28,210.51 per flight. The average cost of an international CODEL is $228,563.33. Of the 103 Pelosi-led congressional delegations (CODEL), 31 trips included members of the House Speaker’s family.
    * One CODEL traveling from Washington, DC, through Tel Aviv, Israel to Baghdad, Iraq May 15-20, 2008, “to discuss matters of mutual concern with government leaders” included members of Congress and their spouses and cost $17,931 per hour in aircraft alone. Purchases for the CODEL included: Johnny Walker Red scotch, Grey Goose vodka, E&J brandy, Bailey’s Irish Crème, Maker’s Mark whiskey, Courvoisier cognac, Bacardi Light rum, Jim Beam whiskey, Beefeater gin, Dewars scotch, Bombay Sapphire gin, Jack Daniels whiskey, Corona beer and several bottles of wine.
    * According to a “Memo for Record” from a March 29—April 7, 2007, CODEL that involved a stop in Israel, “CODEL could only bring Kosher items into the Hotel. Kosher alcohol for mixing beverages in the Delegation room was purchased on the local economy i.e. Bourbon, Whiskey, Scotch, Vodka, Gin, Triple Sec, Tequila, etc.”
    * The Department of Defense advanced a CODEL of 56 members of Congress and staff $60,000 to travel to Louisiana and Mississippi July 19-22, 2008, to “view flood relief advances from Hurricane Katrina.” The three-day trip cost the U.S. Air Force $65,505.46, exceeding authorized funding by $5,505.46.

    “Speaker Pelosi has a history of wasting taxpayer funds with her boorish demands for military travel. And these documents suggest the Speaker’s congressional delegations are more about partying than anything else,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

    Judicial Watch previously obtained internal DOD email correspondence detailing attempts by DOD staff to accommodate Pelosi’s numerous requests for military escorts and military aircraft as well as the speaker’s last minute cancellations and changes.
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    And where is the picture from? Looks doctored.
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    I used to jog but the ice cubes kept falling out of my glass.

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    Donno which "liberal" law that she has passed deserves such anger from the right???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    Donno which "liberal" law that she has passed deserves such anger from the right???
    Not really a matter of her alone, but the dems under her leadership. Pass Universal Healthcare Bill before even reading it.
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    It didn't even include a public option. No one in the know calls it a "liberal" bill. It just forces insurance company to insure people with pre-existing condition.

    If they had passed a single payer system, then fine, the liberal label would be justified.

    The stuff the dems passed was not even as liberal as what Nixon propose din 70s. Fact.
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