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    How can an illegal immigrant get a benefit before an American citizen from another state.

    I am not sure why this is even being argued. No, you are a fucking ILLEGAL immigrant, you don't get in state tuition, you actually get a free bus ride to the border.
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    What buffles me is how they even graduate from high school being illegal immigrants. I mean, seriously.

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    I love this country. Especially when we ask people who are here illegally to do the following:

    "The state law also requires illegal immigrants who apply for the in-state tuition to swear they will attempt to become U.S. citizens. The applicants are still barred from receiving federal financial aid."

    LOL, yes, let's make them swear that they will attempt to become citizens. Boy, that is some really tough language. And the penalty of not attempting is what? And who follows up on this??

    "Allowing undocumented students to attend primary and secondary schools but requiring that they pay out-of-state tuition for college creates an unfair financial burden," Diaz-Balart said.

    And I am so tired of the term undocumented which is nothing more than a flowery term to use instead of illegal. If they are applying for tuition money and you are able to determine that they are illegal, they are no longer undocumented. They have broken our laws and should not be entitled to the benefits of this country beyond the basics until such time they are here legally.

    I will say that I'm not against this proposal:

    "During his re-election campaign, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., promised to try to get a vote on the "DREAM Act," which would create a path to citizenship for youth living in the country illegally who attend college or join the military."

    Get people through the red tape to be here legally so that they are part of the system and paying into it like the rest of us. Our country can obviously handle more immigrants than we process through the current system so we need a better way to make it happen.
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    Certian political parties want their illegal votes and the potential of their legal votes. They have been doing things like this for 40 years.

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    At Texas A&M, Student Senate Votes to Cut Off Tuition Perk for Illegal Immigrants

    Published November 16, 2010 | FoxNews.com


    Texas A&M University’s student Senate recently approved a bill that would no longer allow illegal immigrants attending the school to be eligible for in-state tuition rates.

    Since 2001, illegal immigrants in Texas have qualified for in-state tuition, which offers them a generous discount compared to out-of-state students attending the university. Texas A&M has 49,000 students, and about 300 are illegal immigrants.

    But while the student Senate voted 48-21 this month in favor of the bill, S.B. 63-11, the move isn’t sitting well with Student Body President Jacob Robinson.

    Robinson, who vetoed the bill, says that it’s up to the state legislature – not the school – to address the problem of illegal immigration.

    “This is a state of residency issue and the state needs to address this first,” said Robinson.

    The student senators voted because state legislators "mentioned the desire to receive feedback from students at Texas institutions -- specifically Texas A&M," said Clark Caperton, student Senate chair of external affairs.

    That “desire” hit a nerve when the bill was introduced this month.

    Demonstrators took to campus streets and held up signs that said, “Aggies don’t fight Aggies,” and “We don’t choose to be illegal." Many of the demonstrators support proposed federal legislation called the Dream Act -- which would allow immigrant children to remain in the United States to serve in the military or attend college.

    Justin Pulliam, student Senator and chairman of Texas Aggie Conservatives, the co-author of the S.B. 63-11 bill, predicts that Dream Act Activists will turn out Wednesday when the bill is brought back onto the floor. Students will have an option to override Robinson’s veto.

    “Dream Act Activists are very effective and good at being heard,” Pulliam said. But he says there are others not so vocal -- students and faculty alike -- who support the bill.

    The student Senate has the backing of state Representative Leo Berman, who has plans to introduce legislation on this matter in the spring.

    “I’m very disappointed that one person would have the authority to say no to a bill that was passed by the entire student government,” said Berman, adding that Robinson's veto was “ridiculous.”

    Texas A&M is not the only campus in Texas experiencing turmoil recently, as other campuses in the state have had similar splits in the student body. University of Texas San Antonio students took part in a hunger strike in order to enlist Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison's support for the Dream Act. Undocumented students at the University of Texas Austin put themselves at risk for deportation while participating in a "coming out rally" on campus last Tuesday.

    In 2001, Texas became the first of ten states to offer in-state tuition to illegal immigrants who meet certain criteria, which includes graduating from a local high school and pledging to legalize their immigration status as soon as possible. Illinois, Kansas, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Utah, Washington and Wisconsin all have a variation of the law.

    On Monday, California’s Supreme Court upheld its state law, after out-of-state students and their families challenged it, arguing they shouldn’t have to pay higher tuition while undocumented immigrants get to pay the lower state rate.

    Georgia and South Carolina -- which have a selective admissions process -- are the only two states that ban illegal immigrants from attending any college there.

    The Texas A&M bill has received 330 Facebook “likes.” But the petition site Change.org called the bill “discriminatory” and filed an online petition against it, saying it will result in the “loss of opportunity and advancement and higher costs for Texans in the long term.”

    Caperton says the bill was to test the water of public opinion.

    “S.B. 63-11 is merely designed to represent the collective, although not universal, opinion of the students at Texas A&M,” said Caperton.

    Caperton or Robinson wouldn’t speculate if the veto would be overturned Wednesday, but both said that it would be a close vote.
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    Massachusetts to widen tuition breaks to include immigrants
    Young illegal immigrants to qualify for resident tuition once feds halt their deportations

    Governor Deval Patrick will direct state colleges and universities Monday to allow young illegal immigrants to pay the lower resident rate for tuition and fees as soon as they obtain work permits through a new federal program, a senior administration official said Sunday.

    Patrick’s declaration ends five months of anxiety for immigrants who cheered President Obama’s decision in June to temporarily halt the deportations of immigrants age 30 and under, only to plunge them into limbo in Massachusetts as officials said they were reviewing whether the immigrants were eligible for the lower rates. But the governor’s announcement also raised criticism that he is neglecting American citizens struggling to afford college.

    The Patrick administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the governor is sending a letter to the Board of Higher Education Monday, said the change takes effect immediately. State officials said students paying nonresident tuition now at one of the 29 state colleges or universities may apply for a refund for this semester, but not for prior semesters.

    “That’s amazing,” said an elated Cairo Mendes of Marlborough, a 19-year-old native of Brazil here since he was 9 who could afford only two classes at Massachusetts Bay Community College this semester because the cost is double the resident rate. “My life is about to get a lot better, just the fact that I can go to college in peace.”

    Patrick’s announcement dramatically slashes the cost of a college education for immigrants who until now had to pay out-of-state rates.

    For example, the flagship University of Massachusetts Amherst costs $26,645 this year for nonresidents, compared with $13,230 for residents, while Bunker Hill Community College costs $5,640 this year for residents, compared with $13,880 for nonresidents. And Framingham State costs $8,080 for residents this year, compared with $14,160 for nonresidents.

    Patrick’s decision comes less than two weeks after a contentious election season, and it is likely to rankle critics in a state where immigration has been a hot political issue. In 2004, the state Legislature passed a bill allowing illegal immigrants to pay in-state tuition, but then-Governor Mitt Romney, this year’s Republican presidential nominee who just lost to Obama, vetoed the measure, and subsequent efforts failed.

    After Romney’s 2004 veto, the Senate passed a measure allowing illegal immigrants to pay in-state tuition rates in 2005, but it failed in the House in early 2006.

    The economy soured soon after that, and support for the measure evaporated. Since then, the measure has largely seemed dead.

    In an attempt to revive it last year, Patrick showed up unannounced at a State House hearing to urge lawmakers to approve the measure, but it was not passed into law.

    On Sunday, the senior administration official said Patrick’s letter to the Board of Higher Education reflects his administration’s interpretation of the effect of Obama’s program on immigrants who had been here illegally.

    Education Secretary Paul Reville said Sunday that Obama’s program changed illegal immigrants’ circumstances enough to clear the way for them to pay resident tuition. Though they are not eligible for green cards, they will be allowed to stay for at least two years and, most importantly, obtain work permits.

    He said immigrants with federal work permits have been allowed to pay resident tuition since 2008.

    Steve Kropper, cochairman of Massachusetts Citizens for Immigration Reform, which favors tougher limits on immigration, said on Sunday that the governor and the president should focus on US citizens and legal residents who also cannot afford college. He said the governor’s action sidestepped the state Legislature.

    “I think it’s a bad decision. It’s bad for the country,” Kropper said. “The Democratic Party’s position is not thoughtful about our own poor.”

    Lieutenant Governor Tim Murray is expected to speak about immigration on Monday at the annual Thanksgiving luncheon hosted by the Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition at the State House, officials said.

    President Obama thrilled unauthorized immigrants in June by launching the program, called Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, granting immigrants aged 30 and younger two-year reprieves from deportation if they arrived before age 16, had a clean record, and met other requirements. They also must pay a $465 fee.

    But Obama left it up to individual states to decide whether immigrants should get benefits such as resident tuition.

    Most states did not allow immigrants to pay resident tuition before the president’s decision. However, US education officials have said that students with deferred deportations are not eligible for federal financial aid.

    To pay resident tuition in Massachusetts, state officials said, immigrants must meet the same standards as any other student, including fulfilling academic requirements and the minimum length of state residency for that school.

    It is unclear how many Massachusetts students will be affected by Patrick’s announcement. From 10,000 to 20,000 immigrants in Massachusetts could apply for Obama’s deferred action program, according to estimates from the Washington-based Migration Policy Institute, but those numbers have not materialized.

    Federal statistics for Massachusetts were unavailable, but as of last week the state had not cracked the top 10 states in the number of applicants, according to US Citizenship and Immigration Services, the Homeland Security agency administering the program. Fewer students from Massachusetts had applied than in Virginia, which ranked 10th with less than 6,000 applications.

    Nationwide, more than 300,000 immigrants have applied for the program, much lower than initial government estimates of 800,000 or more. Of these, the government has approved more than 53,000 applications and rejected more than 10,000. Officials said the rest are under review.

    More than 80 percent of the deferred-action applicants were from Latin America. Latino voters, both US-born and naturalized citizens, helped catapult Obama to a second term.

    Other significant groups applying for deferred action include South Koreans and natives of the Philippines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    you actually get a free bus ride to the border.
    So you do believe in freebies after all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    Steve Kropper, cochairman of Massachusetts Citizens for Immigration Reform, which favors tougher limits on immigration, said on Sunday that the governor and the president should focus on US citizens and legal residents who also cannot afford college. He said the governor’s action sidestepped the state Legislature.

    “I think it’s a bad decision. It’s bad for the country,” Kropper said. “The Democratic Party’s position is not thoughtful about our own poor.”
    I agree with this.

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    Already happening in Connecticut,

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_892435.html

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    Dear God, I feel for immigrants, I do, we are a country of them, but don't we have enough legal citizens struggling?

    What is the argument for this, besides trying to garner votes? There has to be some reason to do this that I haven't seen presented yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loveevhsince79 View Post

    Get people through the red tape to be here legally so that they are part of the system and paying into it like the rest of us. Our country can obviously handle more immigrants than we process through the current system so we need a better way to make it happen.
    It IS incredibly hard to gain entry into the USA using legal means. I've been looking into it and there are more hurdles than an Olympic steeplechase!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dibblekins View Post
    It IS incredibly hard to gain entry into the USA using legal means. I've been looking into it and there are more hurdles than an Olympic steeplechase!
    Just come over and don't leave. Our country WILL NOT deport you. Just put an "ez" after your last name and you're good to go.

 

 

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