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    Hey all, building a project guitar. I have a body that is compatible with the fender 2 pt system, but I am thinking of going aftermarket for the bridge cause ala Richie Blackmore I break screw in trem arms within a couple days of getting them. I'm not that hard on them but they seem to break anyway. I dont use it enough to need a floyd and supposedly you get better sound so what the hell.
    I've been looking into it any have found many options, like wilkinson, gotoh, mann made. Callaham makes some nice ones but they are all 6 pt.
    There is an amazing fisher piezo bridge at the LGS which is all machined and looks a shit load better than the american fender bridges, but I dont need the piezo.
    I just need a 2pt trem that fits the fender routs and is awesome. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance for the help!


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    http://www.guitarfetish.com/USA-Stra...tem_p_775.html

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    Great prices and quality above most others, a lot of the guys round here use their Floyd and it's a steal....check them out, they also offer plenty of finish options.

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    I love the Gotoh Made Wilkinsons!
    in combination with locking tuners and a graphite (or lsr) nut, it is even a great alternative for a Floyd rose!! (yes I do divebombs with wilkies! - without going out of tune)

    the 2 point hipshot is next on my list to try.. I only heard good things about it.

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    Yup! for a step up conventional style trem, The Wilkinson type bridge is the way to go. Many of the models have a socket/pivot bushing type, or at very least, a fatter stronger, arm attachment. They are nicely designed as well overall. great machining, comfortable on your hand....look good too.
    She looks so $#@!'n good ,so sexy and so frail....Somethin's got the bite on me, I'm goin' straight to Hell.

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    I found these really cool Gotoh made units, EV510's. Its like the normal 2 pt trem but the EV's have the material is build up on the sides of the base plate around the saddles like the EBMM Petrucci trems so it looks really comfortable. Only problem is NOBODY sells them in the states! lol.

    The Wilky look good but a little small and the trem blocks look small. Do they sustain as well?

    I have a GFS bridge on a yamaha now, its ok but I dont think i'll order another gfs bridge. I broke the bar right after getting it, and the first one they sent me was dented pretty badly at the pivot point.

    Will a wilky work well flush mounted?


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    Quote Originally Posted by VF5150 View Post
    I found these really cool Gotoh made units, EV510's. Its like the normal 2 pt trem but the EV's have the material is build up on the sides of the base plate around the saddles like the EBMM Petrucci trems so it looks really comfortable. Only problem is NOBODY sells them in the states! lol.

    The Wilky look good but a little small and the trem blocks look small. Do they sustain as well?

    I have a GFS bridge on a yamaha now, its ok but I dont think i'll order another gfs bridge. I broke the bar right after getting it, and the first one they sent me was dented pretty badly at the pivot point.

    Will a wilky work well flush mounted?
    Wilkinsons sustain very well. As far as I know, they're pretty much all forged units; no cast tone sucking donkeys. The knife edges last forever, and though some of the designs may look a little space age minimalistic, they are very balanced and are very comfortable. Finish on them is also top notch. Chrome is excellent. Flush mounted......don't see why not. I had a Wilkinson on a Strat as a replacement for a six screw vintage, and aside from doweling and redrilling for the 2 pt., it worked flawlessly. I always set up my guitars flush. it all depends on the neck though. If you neck sit's too high or low in the pocket, your saddle adjustments will be rediculously high or low. In either case, it's not ideal. May have to shim or do what Jimi's illustrated in the past and reverse shim for peace of mind, but I don't think you'll have to if your guitar is already set up for flush mounting, especially if it came set up for a Fender 2 pt. There's enough models of Wilkinson that one will jump out at you.
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    I checked the warmoth website and they say they can install a wilkonson if you order it from them for 10 bucks. I got the body from warmoth, to bad I didnt know that and ordered an american rout.
    I was about to get a wilkinson one but I got offered a great price on a Gotoh (not the EV but the standard base plate) so I went with that. It is a great looking trem and has a nice thick arm so I'm sure it will be good. I just dont like the thin trem arm on those fender bridges!


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    Quote Originally Posted by VF5150 View Post
    I checked the warmoth website and they say they can install a wilkonson if you order it from them for 10 bucks. I got the body from warmoth, to bad I didnt know that and ordered an american rout.
    I was about to get a wilkinson one but I got offered a great price on a Gotoh (not the EV but the standard base plate) so I went with that. It is a great looking trem and has a nice thick arm so I'm sure it will be good. I just dont like the thin trem arm on those fender bridges!
    Yeah, the Fender replacement arms have not been real great as of late either. I mean they've always had a little deflection being so thin, but I swear, I've gone through four in the past year and a bit. Two broke off right at the beginning of the threads, one just stripped, and the fourth broke down inside the block, and I couldn't get the sucker out. Had to get a new block, but I ended up getting an Allparts arm, and it seems at least so far to be a little stronger, though, I'm a little gentler with them now.
    She looks so $#@!'n good ,so sexy and so frail....Somethin's got the bite on me, I'm goin' straight to Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VF5150 View Post
    I found these really cool Gotoh made units, EV510's. Its like the normal 2 pt trem but the EV's have the material is build up on the sides of the base plate around the saddles like the EBMM Petrucci trems so it looks really comfortable. Only problem is NOBODY sells them in the states! lol.

    The Wilky look good but a little small and the trem blocks look small. Do they sustain as well?

    I have a GFS bridge on a yamaha now, its ok but I dont think i'll order another gfs bridge. I broke the bar right after getting it, and the first one they sent me was dented pretty badly at the pivot point.

    Will a wilky work well flush mounted?
    Thats a surprise, usually their stuff is of really high quality, their Floyd is one of the best replacement Floyd's i have used
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLEEPER5150 View Post
    Yeah, the Fender replacement arms have not been real great as of late either. I mean they've always had a little deflection being so thin, but I swear, I've gone through four in the past year and a bit. Two broke off right at the beginning of the threads, one just stripped, and the fourth broke down inside the block, and I couldn't get the sucker out. Had to get a new block, but I ended up getting an Allparts arm, and it seems at least so far to be a little stronger, though, I'm a little gentler with them now.
    There must just be a limit to the materials. That bar is under a lot of stress when all the way down, just try pulling the bridge down with only your fingers. Using a lot of spring tension doesnt help. I went through 2 allpart meteric arms for my yamaha and now I have the GFS bridge and an american fender replacement arm which is holding up fine.

    I'm glad this is a common theme cause they guys at the local guitar stores are all like "WTF? " when I tell them about my arm breaking habbit. haha.

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    Thats a surprise, usually their stuff is of really high quality, their Floyd is one of the best replacement Floyd's i have used
    Maybe I was just unlucky. In general I like GFS stuff, by buddy has a VEH pickup in his agile les paul and its the shit. It was just that bridge, and also the first set of roller string trees I got in that order did not roll, that makes me kind off skeptical about QC and the grade of materials that they use. "steel" or "brass" is kind if a loose term. A GFS bridge is perfect for my mystery wood yamaha strat but I would not put one on a nice warmoth body. For that application its worth saving up a little longer.

    I'd say the GFS stuff is a good value. Not the best if you are really looking for quality, but hey, they admit that.


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