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    Default Group Demands Obama Provide 'Safe Passage' for Illegals

    An anti-immigration group is calling on the White House to ensure a smooth exit for illegal immigrants who want to leave the U.S. due to the weak economy and Arizona's strict new immigration law.

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    Illegal immigrants detected trying to get into or out of the United States at border patrol checkpoints will be barred from applying to legally immigrate to the US for a minimum of ten years. Safe departure checkpoints would allow illegal alien families to depart the US without fear or hindrance.

    "We are asking the Obama administration to designate border checkpoints that illegal immigrants can use to leave the US, without fear of detention or prosecution for immigration crimes," said William Gheen.



    Sounds fair to me. They wanna leave then let 'em leave,,, and good riddance. We shouldn't deter them by busting them on their way out and keeping them detained here.




    Arizona is reporting a mass exodus of illegal aliens who are selling their property and moving to other states or back to Central and South America. This pattern of a peaceful and gradual exodus mirrors reports from other states that have passed immigration enforcement laws.

    I do wish that Colorado would get on with immigration enforcement of our own.
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    This is good, I think people are starting to finally get that illegal immigrants are a major issue and the overwhelming majority of Americans want them gone. Good riddance.
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    Don't let the border gate smack you in the backside on the way out...good riddance!

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    So far every single person who has posted in this thread, doesn't live in Arizona so I don't see what the jubilation is for. A whole lot of people in Arizona are going to have to start getting used to doing their own yard work now, unfortunately.

    Seriously though, could somebody post some information on how these illegals are THAT much of a drain on the economy?

    I find that the argument that they are taking jobs away from US citizens is really just bullshit because I'm sure 70% of the jobs these illegals are doing are jobs that US citizens wouldn't do anyways.
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    I don't think its the jobs that come into play so much that its.

    1. They are here illegally
    2. They don't pay taxes
    3. They are not on a path to citizenship nor can they ever be due to fact 1.
    4. They are a drain on health care institutions
    5. The importing of illegal immigrants creates violent crime as seen in Arizona.

    I don't have any problem with people in the border states who have to cut their own grass. People here in the North have been doing it for a long time and have somehow grown accustomed to it. It's really not that hard to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    So far every single person who has posted in this thread, doesn't live in Arizona so I don't see what the jubilation is for. A whole lot of people in Arizona are going to have to start getting used to doing their own yard work now, unfortunately.

    Seriously though, could somebody post some information on how these illegals are THAT much of a drain on the economy?

    I find that the argument that they are taking jobs away from US citizens is really just bullshit because I'm sure 70% of the jobs these illegals are doing are jobs that US citizens wouldn't do anyways.
    Your final point is the real bullshit. Illegals do those jobs at exploitation wages with no benefits or workplace protection. For the standard minimum wage, those jobs would certainly be filled by Americans.

    The cause for "jubilation" is that, maybe, the United States is not only going to clean up border issues and immigration policy, but that by taking action the U.S. can put a dent in international human trafficking. Human smugglers operate with impunity when weak politicians won't do their job. They also operate profitably when they can reasonably assure illegals of domestic or agricultural employment in America which oftentimes turns into forced prostitution...
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    When companies start laying off American workers and keep illegals on, like what happened to my brother, it's a huge problem.

    I worked at the same place for a brief period of time, and as an English speaking worker, I was in the minority. The most frightening thing though was their total disregard for personal safety. More than once I ran like hell in the other direction because there was an object weighing several tons swinging like crazy on an overhead crane.

    The idea that these people are doing jobs that Americans don't want is ludicrous. They are being given jobs at lower than minimum wage that Americans like my brother once had.
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    Federal law prohibits anyone walking into a hospital to be refused medical treatment. Also, a lot of illegals earn money and pay no taxes, yet they send this money back home to Mexico. So the illegal money they earn (not paying taxes, getting paid cash under the table) is being directly sent out of this economy to another one. That is your drain.

    However, it's not the people who want to come here to work that bother me. It's the drugs, the drop houses, and the crime. Phoenix has more kidnappings than any other US city. At least once a week I see on the news about a new drop house where 50 immigrants are found. They are just wanting a better life (most of them), but they are now in debt to the drug runners and cartels to pay off the passage they got coming here.

    Now a days, instead of someone paying a coyote (human smuggler) money to get here, they are instead recruited by the drug smugglers to bring drugs over. This is how they pay for getting here.
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    Question.

    So they grant amnesty to every illegal in this country. Then what? Is it still against the law to come here illegally or do we wait until there are 15 million more illegals and make it ok again? What incentive do legal immigrants have for coming here?

    I just don't understand the pro-illegal immigrant argument. Landscaping, housecleaning and picking vegetables. That is it. Has it come to that we are for millions of people breaking the laws of a country they are not citizens in because our lawns won't be mowed or people won't have clean laundry.

    I am sure that if we survived World War 2, we can probably get by without illegal immigrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    So far every single person who has posted in this thread, doesn't live in Arizona so I don't see what the jubilation is for. A whole lot of people in Arizona are going to have to start getting used to doing their own yard work now, unfortunately.

    Seriously though, could somebody post some information on how these illegals are THAT much of a drain on the economy?

    I find that the argument that they are taking jobs away from US citizens is really just bullshit because I'm sure 70% of the jobs these illegals are doing are jobs that US citizens wouldn't do anyways.
    Let me see if I have this right. You are making an issue of people posting in this thread that do not live in AZ. Yet, you dont even live in the USA, you are a 21 year old know it all that lives in Canada and you sure likes to tell us Americans how we should live and run our country.

    I see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLO View Post
    Let me see if I have this right. You are making an issue of people posting in this thread that do not live in AZ. Yet, you dont even live in the USA, you are a 21 year old know it all that lives in Canada and you sure likes to tell us Americans how we should live and run our country.

    I see.


    I've never made it out like I know it all, OLO. I have opinions.

    I am only now starting to see that when a 21 year old states his opinions some people have a little trouble dealing with them.
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