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    Obama's New Muslim Outreach Agency: NASA

    New head of NASA, Charles Bolden.


    "When I became the Nasa administrator, he [Mr Obama] charged me with three things.

    - "One, he wanted me to help reinspire children to want to get into science and math;

    - he wanted me to expand our international relationships;

    - and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science, math, and engineering."





    Obama: Next Frontier Better Relations With Muslim World

    NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said in a recent interview that his "foremost" mission as the head of America's space exploration agency is to improve relations with the Muslim world.


    Though international diplomacy would seem well outside NASA's orbit, Bolden said in an interview with Al Jazeera that strengthening those ties was among the top tasks President Obama assigned him. He said better interaction with the Muslim world would ultimately advance space travel.

    "When I became the NASA administrator -- or before I became the NASA administrator -- he charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering," Bolden said in the interview.

    The NASA administrator was in the Middle East last month marking the one-year anniversary since Obama delivered an address to Muslim nations in Cairo. Bolden spoke in June at the American University in Cairo -- in his interview with Al Jazeera, he described space travel as an international collaboration of which Muslim nations must be a part.




    Former NASA Director Says Muslim Outreach Push 'Deeply Flawed'
    The former head of NASA on Tuesday described as "deeply flawed" the idea that the space exploration agency's priority should be outreach to Muslim countries, after current Administrator Charles Bolden made that assertion in an interview last month.

    "NASA ... represents the best of America. Its purpose is not to inspire Muslims or any other cultural entity," Michael Griffin, who served as NASA administrator during the latter half of the Bush administration, told FoxNews.com.


    He also said that while welcome, Muslim-nation cooperation is not vital for U.S. advancements in space exploration.

    "There is no technology they have that we need," Griffin said.

    The former administrator stressed that any criticism should be directed at Obama, not Bolden, since NASA merely carries out policy.


    The White House stood by Bolden on Tuesday. Spokesman Nick Shapiro said in a written statement to FoxNews.com that Obama "wants NASA to engage with the world's best scientists and engineers as we work together to push the boundaries of exploration.

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    Here's Charles Bolden biography (from wikipedia):

    Charles Frank "Charlie" Bolden, Jr. (born August 19, 1946 in Columbia, South Carolina, United States) is the current Administrator of NASA, a retired United States Marine Corps major general, and former NASA astronaut.

    A 1968 graduate of the United States Naval Academy, he became a Marine Aviator and test pilot. After his service as an astronaut, he became Deputy Commandant of Midshipmen at the Naval Academy. Bolden is the virtual host of the Shuttle Launch Experience attraction at Kennedy Space Center.[1] Bolden also serves on the board of directors for the Military Child Education Coalition.

    On May 23, 2009, President Barack Obama announced the nomination of Bolden as NASA Administrator, and Lori Garver as Deputy NASA Administrator.[2] Bolden was confirmed by the Senate on July 15, 2009.[3]


    Seems fully qualified to me.

    He made those remarks when talking to Al Jazeera, basically while talking to a muslim audience. Maybe he was trying too hard, but let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill. Only Fox News is reporting this. Should tell you something...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post

    Seems fully qualified to me.
    LOL Fully qualified for what? Rocket science? Or community organizing?

    And that resume you posted sucks.

    -"Bolden is the virtual host of the Shuttle Launch Experience attraction at Kennedy Space Center. (Oh boy! Like R2D2 at Disney Land!)
    Bolden also serves on the board of directors for the Military Child Education Coalition."
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    Big f'n deal. This isn't about his qualifications anyway. This is about our stupid fucking president.
    If Bolden is qualified to head up NASA then what the hell does our president have him wasting his f'n time and our money in our space agency reaching out to Muslims?? It's another chapter in this travesty being carried out by our Chicago community organizer President Barack Obama.

    He made those remarks when talking to Al Jazeera, basically while talking to a muslim audience. Maybe he was trying too hard, but let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill. Only Fox News is reporting this. Should tell you something...
    Yeah it does tell us something doesn't it. Funny isn't it how we get a lot of breaking news about this president from Al Jazeera and the sort.
    You think that he's going to reveal this NASA Muslim Outreach mission to Katie Couric and an American audience?? You're silly. They don't want Americans to see this. Precisely why you won't find this on MSN. Who's making mountains out of mole-hills? He said it.

    And you do understand don't you that we're talking about NASA, right? This countries National Aeronautics and Space Administration?
    In your defense of this presidents actions you're going to have to explain why NASA's foremost mission should EVER be reaching out to Muslims.

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    Time for the ever stealth Neil Armstrong to speak out on this.
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    I don't blame Bolden.

    If that is truly what POTUS said to him is part of his responsibilites as NASA director, then God help us all that we will have twelve consecutive years of an absolute idiot in office.

    Edit: Will probably end up being sixteen years....
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    Jee, we're posting resumes now?

    Pick any recent government disaster, the guys who were in charge were all top-drawer performers in their fields.

    My problem is that someone in the White House thinks that the Arab/Islamic world is made up of morons. Nobody likes to have their chain yanked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
    Jee, we're posting resumes now?

    Pick any recent government disaster, the guys who were in charge were all top-drawer performers in their fields.

    My problem is that someone in the White House thinks that the Arab/Islamic world is made up of morons. Nobody likes to have their chain yanked.
    Hey now, I don't think your qualifications are good enough to make this post.

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    A four-year FBI investigation into the transfer of classified weapons technology to China and other countries from NASA’s Ames Research Center is being stonewalled by government officials, sources tell FoxNews.com.



    Documents obtained by FoxNews.com, which summarize these and other allegations and were given to congressional sources last week by a whistle-blower, described how a “secret grand jury” was to be convened in February 2011 to hear testimony from informants in the case, including a senior NASA engineer. But federal prosecutor Gary Fry was removed from the case, which was then transferred from one office in the Northern District of California to another where, according to the documents, “this case now appears to be stalled.”

    “The information is staggering,” the whistle-blower told FoxNews.com.

    A Justice Department spokesman on Thursday told FoxNews.com it “does not comment on grand jury proceedings,” as a matter of longstanding policy. Fry, reached for comment late Thursday, also would not confirm or deny the claim.

    'When I mentioned the tech that was compromised to the Armed Services Committee, their jaws just dropped.' - Congressional source

    The claims originate with several past and current NASA employees concerned with the systemic leak of highly sensitive information relating to missile defense systems, as well as what they call a troubled investigation into the leak.

    The documents claim the FBI has been working with other agencies since 2009 on an investigation into foreign nationals working at Ames. This follows allegations by two Republican lawmakers earlier this month that the U.S. attorney’s office in the Northern California district was ultimately denied by the Justice Department when it tried to proceed with indictments.

    Melinda Haag, the U.S. attorney for the Northern District of California, denied claims her office was blocked in trying to proceed with the case.

    “I am aware of allegations our office sought authority from DOJ in Washington, D.C. to bring charges in a particular matter and that our request was denied,” she said in a written statement. “Those allegations are untrue. No such request was made and no such denial was received.”

    Yet two members of Congress, Reps. Frank Wolf, R-Va., and Lamar Smith, R-Texas, said in a statement to FoxNews.com that Haag’s denial “conflicts with information we have received from federal law enforcement sources,” and added “we hope that the DOJ Inspector General will take our request seriously.” The lawmakers had requested, via letter, an IG investigation.

    Rob Storch, a spokesman for the DOJ inspector general’s office, confirmed to FoxNews.com the office received the letter from Wolf and Smith. “We’re evaluating (the letter),” he said.

    Located in the heart of Silicon Valley, the Ames Research Center has been a center of high tech innovation for more than 60 years. As the space agency’s mission has changed over the years since it was built, NASA has turned it into a commercial research facility, leasing out space to a number of companies including rocket firm SpaceX and tech giant Google, which leases 42 acres there through a holding company called Planetary Ventures.

    The accusations stem from a reported violation of the International Traffic in Arms Regulation (ITAR), which governs the export of defense weaponry. In 2006, Ames adapted specialized rocket engines -- originally developed for the Pentagon missile defense “Kinetic Kill Vehicle” program -- for a moon lander prototype that ultimately became NASA’s Lunar Atmosphere and Dust Environment Explorer (LADEE). The robotic moon orbiter is set to launch on Aug. 12, 2013.

    Information on guidance and terrain-mapping systems from the Tomahawk cruise missile and a radar from the F-35 were also shared, according to one report in Aviation Week.

    "When I mentioned the tech that was compromised to the Armed Services Committee, their jaws just dropped," a congressional source told FoxNews.com.

    The sources allege that Ames Center Director Simon P. “Pete” Worden and Will Marshall, a British citizen, shared that moon lander project - and the missile defense technology – with individuals from foreign countries including China, South Korea and Saudi Arabia.

    “Will Marshall in particular had demonstrated far too great an interest in locating U.S. spy satellites, giving interviews to Chinese and American newspapers on curtailing U.S. space security,” reads a document that was purportedly given to the FBI. Marshall could not be reached for comment by FoxNews.com.

    The document claims foreign nationals, under the direction of Worden, were since 2006 brought in to work on space flight projects, without the proper export control licenses. Further, the document claims they were planning to share technology with the Chinese and other countries through the International Space University.

    The document also charges the Department of Homeland Security “intercepted” Marshall at the San Francisco airport, and “confiscated” his NASA-issued computer, suggesting it contained sensitive information.

    “Foreign nationals had access to technology and even brought foreign visitors in to see it. Three left the country and talked about the technology,” congressional sources told FoxNews.com. “The case was referred to the U.S. attorney – it’s a clear violation of ITAR.”

    A NASA engineer was subpoenaed to testify before a secret grand jury in February 2011 in San Jose, according to the documents. But the attorney assigned to the case – Gary Fry -- was removed at the last minute, before the case was transferred to another office within Haag’s district. Fry still works out of the San Jose office.

    NASA headquarters deferred questions to the Department of Justice. The Justice Department headquarters also declined to comment to FoxNews.com.

    But Worden told FoxNews.com the accusations are “rubbish.”

    “I take very seriously our responsibility to safeguard sensitive information. I say this unambiguously — I have not, would not, and could not impede a law enforcement investigation. To the best of my knowledge I am not the subject of a current investigation,” he said in a statement.

    On Feb. 8, Reps. Wolf and Smith sent letters to the Justice Department inspector general and the director of the FBI regarding the allegedly illegal movement of this crucial technology. Wolf chairs the House Appropriations Commerce, Justice, Science and Related Agencies subcommittee. Smith heads the House Science, Space and Technology Committee.

    The letters allege the FBI had uncovered the ITAR violations, and the U.S. attorney was prepared to issue indictments. But it says the case has been stalled for more than a year, agents in the case were reassigned, and the statute of limitations on the violations is already beginning to expire.

    “It is our understanding that this illegal technology transfer may have involved classified Defense Department weapons system technology to foreign countries, including China, potentially with the tacit or direct approval of the center’s leadership,” the letters read.

    Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, also wrote to NASA as early as April 2012 asking about allegations that Worden “allowed foreign nationals” to access Ames – along with “NASA secrets and cutting edge technology” in violation of ITAR.
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    It is well known in the Intelligence Community and the different military branches that NASA is horrible at keeping sensitive information, well, sensitive.

    They are first and foremost scientists, and scientists believe with every fiber in their being the sharing of information with other scientists. Most scientists are very altruistic and they all seem to share a common goal of the betterment of mankind. While noble, that also generates a certain amount of naivete as they think everyone thinks as they do.

    This is a very simple summation of a much more complicated issue, but I think the general jist of what I am trying to say is accurate.
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