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    Baluchitherium Ted Van Halen's Avatar
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    Default Anybody else get the American Community Survey to fill out?

    I got it this year. Not particularly thrilled with how intrusive it is. Anybody else?
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    with all due respect, no idea what you're talking about.. more info?
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    It's the terribly intrusive long form from our good friends at the Census Bureau.


    No, I didn't get it Ted, but I hear it is creepy as all get out.

    I've heard a couple of talk radio types say they won't answer it, but supposedly there are fines and consequences and repurcussions and whatnot.

    Maybe it would be worth a few laughs to call an elected official, or a really evil attorney, and see what they had to say.

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    Creepy it is Red. I'm really on the fence about it. If there was no threat of penalty I for sure wouldn't complete it. It's all information they have access to anyway. Just not sure why I should have to provide it. And it wants to know EVERYTHING. The only thing I can think of that was more intrusive was my DOE clearance stuff from when I worked at a nuke site.
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    I never even got a census form! I want to be counted Gull- dern it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy Hill View Post
    I never even got a census form! I want to be counted Gull- dern it!
    Yeah but do you want to put every bit of identification SSN, DOB, etc on a piece of paper & just stick it in the mail?
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    I just got this monster in the mail. And I already completed my regular Census form, but this thing is way over the top.

    I'm considering risking the fine ($100 to $5000) from what I can tell, although it has never been levied against someone.

    Problem is also if you do not fill it out, then Census people will start pounding on your door and demand the info -- generally harass you into complying.

    This is all the crap they ask...anyone try to ignore filling this stuff out?

    Name
    Relation to "Person 1" in the household
    Sex?
    Age in years?
    Date of Birth?
    Are you Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish?
    Your race?
    What type of dwelling?
    When was it built?
    When did you move into it?
    How many acres is it on?
    What is the value of any agricultural products from the property?
    (Gee, I didn't keep an inventory of the value of everything in my garden this year, so I suppose I will have to estimate it....)
    Any business on the property?
    How many separate rooms?
    How many of these are bedrooms?
    Hot and cold running water?
    Flush toilet?
    Bathtub or shower?
    Sink with a faucet?
    Stove or range? (WTF is the difference??!)
    Fridge?
    Telephone? And can you receive AND make calls from it?
    How many vehicles less than 1 ton each?
    Fuel MOST used to heat home?
    Cost of your electric use LAST month?
    Cost of gas use LAST month?
    For the past year, total cost of Water/Sewer?
    For the past year, total cost of Oil, Coal, Kero, Wood used?
    Anyone is the house use food stamps in the past year?
    Is this dwelling part of a condominium?
    If so, what was the commons fee each month?
    Is the home owned by you?
    Owned by someone else in the house?
    Rented?
    Or, just occupied (without paying rent?) (Hey, that sounds like a good deal!)
    Rent per month?
    Does rent include meals?
    How much is your place worth?
    Annual real estate taxes?
    Annual payment for your fire, hazard, flood insurance?
    Mortgage?
    Monthly payment?
    Does it include property taxes?
    Does it include insurance?
    Second mortgage?
    How much per month?
    Are you a citizen? (and how so, if yes) (I am shocked they included this)
    When did you come to live in the US?
    Attending college?
    Highest level of school completed?
    -selection from Nursery school on up to PhD
    Major if you earned a Bachelor degree?
    What is your ancestry or ethnic origin?
    Do you speak a language other than English at home?
    What language?
    How well do you speak it? (WTF)
    Did you live in this house one year ago?
    If not, then where? (give full address, etc)
    Insurance coverage (medical)?
    -type?
    Deaf?
    Blind or difficultly seeing?
    Problems concentrating, remembering, or making decisions due to physical, mental, or emotional issues?
    Problems walking or climbing stairs?
    Difficulty dressing and bathing?
    Difficulty going to the doctor or shopping?
    Married?
    Did you get married, divorced, or widowed in the past year?
    How many times married?
    What year was the last marriage?
    Give birth in the last year?
    Any grandkids living with you in the last year?
    Are the grandparent(s) primarily responsible for them?
    If so, how long has that been going on?
    Served in military?
    When were you on active duty?
    VA service-connected disability?
    -rating
    Did you work for pay last week?
    What location?
    What town?
    Was the job in that town's limits?
    How did you get to work?
    How many people ride with you to work?
    What time did you go to work last week hour:min am/pm
    How many minutes to get there?
    Were you laid off last week?
    Were you absent from work last week?
    If out of work, have you been informed whether you will return?
    If out of work, have you been ACTIVELY looking for a job?
    If offered one, could you have accepted?
    When did you last work, even if for only a few days?
    Did you work 50 or more weeks last year (including paid time off)
    How many weeks did you actually work last year?
    How many hours per week (average)?
    Type of job priavte/public/self emp, etc, etc
    Who did you work for?
    What kind of business?
    Kind of work you were doing?
    Income from past year?
    Interest,dividends,rental income from last year?
    Public assistance (for past year total)?
    Retirement, pensions (add them for last year)?
    Other income? Amount?
    WHAT WAS YOUR TOTAL INCOME IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS??

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    There should only be one question for the census:

    How many people live in this household?

    The rest of it is none of their damn business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    There should only be one question for the census:

    How many people live in this household?

    The rest of it is none of their damn business.

    As a former census enumerator, I must say "I agree." Just imagine if ACORN had been in charge of the census...

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    I seriously don't want to fill this out. And for $100 fine, I would risk it. $5,000 fine...man...can't afford that...and I don't want my wife and kids harassed on my own property which I know will happen if I don't.... But the principle of it...

    It is just so obnoxious. I'd feel like some sheep filling this crap form out and meekly sending it in.

 

 

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